8-bit HD: A hd nes with a sensible price.

[Howard_Casto]

I had this in my recommended videos cache this morning:



So yeah somebody finally had the idea to take one of those 20 dollar clone systems and re-work it for hd.  Comes with 2 controllers and the hdmi cable, also does av out, plays most games and homebrew and flash carts without issue, only 50 bucks. 

I've been checking reviews online.... the console isn't without issue.  Apparently it's US NTSC only, and some games have audio issues.  (Like, yup, you guessed it, Castlevania 3)  In addition it's 16:9 by default, so you have to force your tv to standard aspect ratio.  Also something that isn't mentioned, but people should keep in mind, is the fact that the controller ports aren't arranged like a real nes.  That means that without modding at least, you can't use an advantage or satellite, ect. 

Anyway, this was news to me, I didn't even know it was coming out, so I thought I would share.  It's still not a real NES, but for 50 bucks it kind of falls into that toy/novelty area that the NES Classic has. 

*edit* Link corrected... sorry.

[pbj]

What did that ---smurfy--- video have to do with HDMI clone systems?  Put an actual link to the systems, not some blathering idiot that can't do math and is butt hurt his jerkwater town only has a GameStop and Wal-Mart.  How dare those minimum wage people get between him and 30 year old video games!?!

[Howard_Casto]

What did that ---smurfy--- video have to do with HDMI clone systems?  Put an actual link to the systems, not some blathering idiot that can't do math and is butt hurt his jerkwater town only has a GameStop and Wal-Mart.  How dare those minimum wage people get between him and 30 year old video games!?!

Youtube's auto play nonsense jumped to a new video when I walked out of the room and I didn't notice.  Also switch to decaf. 

[pbj]

Still no link.....

[Howard_Casto]

*sigh*

Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/8-Bit-HD-Entertainment-System/dp/B01MYXNB7G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1482297829&sr=8-1&keywords=8-bit+hd

Official Website:
http://www.gamerztek.com/product-p/8-bit-hd.htm

Their official page seems cheaper, but they charge 15 bucks shipping and it'll be free with prime shipping, so it's actually 5 bucks cheaper on amazon.

[Howard_Casto]

Btw... I asked the seller about famicom games and they say they will work with an adaptor.

[ark_ader]

720p is HD nowadays?   

[Howard_Casto]

Seriously man?  It's a 240p image.... I don't think it really matters if it's up-scaled to 720p or 1080p.  Hell 480p would even be acceptable.  So long as it is progressive and is hdmi out. 

[Malenko]

720p is HD nowadays?   

720p has ALWAYS been an HD format.

[Howard_Casto]

Sure.  I've just learned when it's a battle of semantics around here to just let it go. 

[MaseMan]

This looks like a pretty good value...good picture quality and comes with TWO controllers? I may have to get one of these. I actually don't own any NES carts currently, but have been thinking of getting into the hobby a bit for a while.

*sigh* If only I hadn't sold my NES and all my games years ago. Had a Game Genie, NES Advantage, and NES Max too!

[Locke141]

240 X 3 = 720.  Line tripling seem's to make sense.

Thats an option on the OSSC. They even have a mode where it line doubles the original image and adds a black line on ever 3rd. This way you get a 420p image + 240 black "scan lines", this  gives the look of scan lines on your 720p display with no slow down.

Edit: I fixed some gamer and spelling. Dame you dyslexia

[lilshawn]

720 = HD "High Definition"

1080 = FHD "Full High Definition" = 2x HD

2160 AKA "4k" = UHD "Ultra High Definition" = 4x HD

[Howard_Casto]

High definition is just a generic term and doesn't really have any meaning other than a marketing tool.  Remember the sega genesis has "high definition graphics" printed on it.    I've also seen high definition sunglasses, ect.

Instead people in the industry often just call it 1080p, 720p, ect. 

Like locke said, 720p makes more sense for upscaling old consoles than 1080p.  If you go up to 1080p you have to do 4.5 scale, which means you are going to have "half lines" and it may or may not look good depending upon what chip they use. 

[Locke141]

To be fare Howard, it may not be a set standard but what Lilshawn posted is what is generally understood to be the branding and would be helpful to anyone not sure where on whats what.

[lilshawn]

believe it or not, even today you can buy TV's, DVD players and other TV connected devices.... they get the "HD" label treatment and everybody assumes "hey, HD good" but in fact it isn't. they are cheap ass 720p devices sold at a premium.

you can still find small 720p TV's and 1080P TV's sold side by side at nearly the exact same price.

or they say 1080p, but when you look up and read the native resolution of the panel it's actually 1024×768. in order to have good image quality you must have 1:1 pixel mapping... you can't do that with these panels.

what's worse is that some devices will specify 1080P, but actually be upscaled 720p. sure they will output 1080p and say 1080p when connected to your TV but not be 1080p.

[Howard_Casto]

believe it or not, even today you can buy TV's, DVD players and other TV connected devices.... they get the "HD" label treatment and everybody assumes "hey, HD good" but in fact it isn't. they are cheap ass 720p devices sold at a premium.

you can still find small 720p TV's and 1080P TV's sold side by side at nearly the exact same price.

or they say 1080p, but when you look up and read the native resolution of the panel it's actually 1024×768. in order to have good image quality you must have 1:1 pixel mapping... you can't do that with these panels.

what's worse is that some devices will specify 1080P, but actually be upscaled 720p. sure they will output 1080p and say 1080p when connected to your TV but not be 1080p.

^This^

HD doesn't really mean anything in terms of actual resolution and I apologize for using the term initially.

[lilshawn]

believe it or not, even today you can buy TV's, DVD players and other TV connected devices.... they get the "HD" label treatment and everybody assumes "hey, HD good" but in fact it isn't. they are cheap ass 720p devices sold at a premium.

you can still find small 720p TV's and 1080P TV's sold side by side at nearly the exact same price.

or they say 1080p, but when you look up and read the native resolution of the panel it's actually 1024×768. in order to have good image quality you must have 1:1 pixel mapping... you can't do that with these panels.

what's worse is that some devices will specify 1080P, but actually be upscaled 720p. sure they will output 1080p and say 1080p when connected to your TV but not be 1080p.

^This^

HD doesn't really mean anything in terms of actual resolution and I apologize for using the term initially.

No need. it's just the term HD is thrown around so much now, it's hard to get what people are actually meaning when they say "HD".

[pbj]

This thread is boring.

[lilshawn]

This thread is boring.

https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/64669126/

[Howard_Casto]

This thread is boring.

They can't all be flame wars man.  I was going to pick this up and then the nes classic hacks started rolling in so now I'd rather try to get one of those and maybe pick this up after they've went through a few more revisions.

[opt2not]

Don't mind him, he's all hopped up on prison wine and cancer ham.