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BadMouth:

--- Quote from: JudgeRob on August 09, 2023, 08:10:59 pm ---Dang Badmouth, that dual extruder looks very ambitious!  That will be awesome when you get it working. 

So I have been lightly rocking the Anet A8 for a few years now and am looking at some of the high speed units to upgrade to.  Any thought on these two?

Creatlity K1:
https://store.creality.com/products/k1-speedy-3d-printer?sscid=81k7_aolwq&

Bambu P1S:
https://us.store.bambulab.com/products/p1s?variant=41211805696136&sscid=81k7_aof80

Kind of pricey but with those speeds and enclosure, it seems like they could be a good deal.  I am trying to find out more about the K1...

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I'd lean toward the Bambu.  It just seems more plug and play with less fiddling.  The question is will parts be available when everything wears out in two years?  Probably yes. 
Just in case..... are you going to get your money's worth if it only lasts two years?  If so then it's a no brainer.
Belts, print surfaces, wiring, bearings, sometimes heaters all start giving out after a couple years if you enclose them and run them a lot.  It doesn't matter which brand.
Personally I'd get the P1P and slap some ugly polyiso sheet insulation on the sides and clear acrylic on the front.

It's getting harder to justify building my own.  I threw extrusion offcuts and spare parts into a "Tiny-M" which is basically a Voron V0 with bigger extrusions.  It was going well until it came time to order the rails, some extra hardware, & bed/bed heater.  I'm going to end up with $200 in a junk build when a brand new V0 kit can be had for as little as $400 and a Bambu P1P for as little as $530.

All the issues on my IDEX got worked through and it is both fast and reliable. After I updated it from a Voron 1.8 to a Trident, progress started being made on the more official "Tridex" and a good number of people are building those now.  It works well and is reliable, but the 250mm bed keeps coming up short for the things I want to print so I'll be transplanting it into a bigger frame soon.
The size of the bed is an even bigger issue now that copy and mirror modes have been added to Klipper firmware.

I did some beta testing for it:
JudgeRob:
Thanks for your thoughts.  I am going to take a closer look at the Bambu.  IDK why but it seems to have a larger backing behind it.  I just saw a video showing the "poop chute" on the backside of it.   :laugh:  It's pretty incredible how it self cleans the nozzle and takes care of so much of the prep stuff I thought would always be part of setting up a print.  So cool to watch the evolution of these things. 

Your video is pretty sweet with the dual extruders.  It looks like they are racing each other.  I think you said one might be used for dissolvable supports?  That would be a dream man.  I hate removing those ---smurfing--- supports!
JudgeRob:
I think I am going with the Bambu P1S.  It looks incredible.  Now I have to decide on the AMS add on.  I was hoping it would be more like $150 instead of $250, but it looks like it would be really convenient. 
nitrogen_widget:
I have everything i need to rebuild 2 dead printers into klipper machines.
except time.
longer lk5 that i don't even want to go faster than 100.
a dead vyper where the strain guage died and i decided i was done with that nonsense.
printed up the stealth burner head.
have a new print head board to accept bltouch.
have an orange pi with klipper installed.

just need time to do it.

but now there is the 7" touch screen with klipper installed that can just replace the SBC.
not the creality one, the other one that is opensource.

but i still have two perfectly runing printers, one that needs a new thermister and one that i'm assembling so i don't feel pressed for time.
pbj:
Which one of you beautiful men can print the ones for megadrive / genesis 2?

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