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| yotsuya:
--- Quote from: RandyT on March 14, 2022, 03:38:23 pm --- --- Quote from: yotsuya on March 14, 2022, 03:25:35 pm ---Remember there was a time when the only place you could find a computer was a college campus? Yeah. --- End quote --- Sorry. I don't see that as refuting the points I made :) Widespread adoption, which is brought about by ease of use, reliability, price tags and intense consumer desire for what the technology offers is what brought about the information age. FDM printing, as incredibly useful as it is for a certain segment of the population, just isn't as enticing to average, non-creative, and/or non-mechanically inclined consumers. --- End quote --- I had a friend here reach out about printing some replacement handles for his shower doors. When people realize they can do stuff like that, and the technology is there to make it easier for them (in, say, 20 years), they’ll find it incredibly useful. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
| RandyT:
--- Quote from: yotsuya on March 14, 2022, 03:40:22 pm ---I had a friend here reach out about printing some replacement handles for his shower doors. When people realize they can do stuff like that, and the technology is there to make it easier for them (in, say, 20 years), they’ll find it incredibly useful. --- End quote --- No doubt. But if that same friend had to spend what you did , learned how to design the models, waited 4 hours for his handles to prints, nicked himself a couple of times with the sharp tools required to clean up the print and had to listen to his wife always asking when he was going to get REAL handles for her shower, his interest will likely have waned considerably. And God help him if he experienced a machine malfunction or clog somewhere during the process :laugh2: FDM (and current SLA) technology doesn't really deliver on the promise average consumers want to believe is true. Those who do enough research into the technology already know this and either accept it for what it is (an investment/toy unlikely to ever pay for itself for many who use it) or immediately discard the notion of investing their time and capital to get involved in it. There are always those for whom it is a godsend and I am one of them. I am atypical (in more ways than one :) ) |
| yotsuya:
I don’t disagree with you on a lot of points, I’m just not discounting the fact that a) there are a lot of young kids right now learning about 3-D printing technology, so by the time they’re adults, it won’t be so foreign and b) I’m assuming the industry is going to innovate and refine in the next two decades. I have no doubt it’s not gonna look the same as it does today. Is my mom gonna run out and buy a 3D printer in 20 years when she’s 87? Probably not. Will my daughter, who is taking design classes in college right now and learning about 3-D printing? You bet, if she doesn’t already have one because she’s already learned the basic principles and has already experimented with them. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
| BadMouth:
--- Quote from: RandyT on March 14, 2022, 02:13:37 pm ---In 20 years, I find a much more likely scenario is that FDM printers are relegated to history and will be supplanted by something more capable and user-friendly. As I mentioned earlier, FDM is literally built upon a 70 --- End quote --- I am with Randy on this one. If they become a standard household appliance, it won't be the FDM version. I handed an air duct adapter to a friend to show off the print quality. He has no experience with 3D printing and was very put off by the .2mm layer lines. It was not the reaction I expected. The only technology I see as a possibility is PolyJet. InkJet printer style nozzles deposit resin and are followed by a UV light that cures the resin as it is deposited. If an affordable desktop PolyJet printer could print three dimensional objects as well and as simply as inkjet printers print photographs, then we would have something. This isn't a new technology either and the price would have to come down tenfold before even hobbyists mess with it. |
| Howard_Casto:
I also agree with Randy. It's very much one of those specialty tools that the average consumer isn't going to want or need but that's compounded by the fact that it just doesn't work reliably. Is a microwave a ---smurfy--- way to cook food? Sure, but it does heat things pretty reliably, so it caught on. 3d printers need to do at least one thing reliably before they will ever go mainstream and due to the limits to the technology, I don't see that ever happening. |
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