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Re: Custom 4 Player Arcade Cabinet (Dark TMNT Theme)
« Reply #40 on: December 05, 2016, 08:22:45 am »
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Re: Custom 4 Player Arcade Cabinet (Dark TMNT Theme)
« Reply #41 on: December 05, 2016, 11:31:16 pm »
Got started on placing the LEDs inside each button.  Very tedious but not too difficult.  Hoping to finish up tomorrow night.


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Re: Custom 4 Player Arcade Cabinet (Dark TMNT Theme)
« Reply #42 on: December 05, 2016, 11:38:54 pm »
Tested my PacLED64 with the RGB (crimping is a bit of a pain in the ass BTW).  I improvised using electrical tape until my butt splices come, just to test it out (see link below).  Looks pretty sweet. 

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Re: Custom 4 Player Arcade Cabinet (Dark TMNT Theme)
« Reply #43 on: December 06, 2016, 06:23:19 pm »
Looks good so far, I made the exact same cabinet with the exact same layout recently and there are so many things I wish I can do over.  I modeled after Chance's design also and couldnt turn back because I loved the layout.  I also angled my joysticks for 3 and 4, but on 4 player games I decided to make the first position(player 3) a player 1 instead, and the player 1 position a player 2 to put them in sequence.  I plan on redoing the entire CP and box, but when I finished wiring(which took 2 entire days) I am hanging it up and want to see no parts of a crimper or dupont connector for the rest of the month.

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Re: Custom 4 Player Arcade Cabinet (Dark TMNT Theme)
« Reply #44 on: December 11, 2016, 12:37:45 am »
Started glueing the CP box pieces together. Looking good.




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Re: Custom 4 Player Arcade Cabinet (Dark TMNT Theme)
« Reply #45 on: February 02, 2017, 08:47:46 pm »
This may be a dumb question but I just finished putting primer on the top of my CP (using MDF wood).  Because I will be laying polycarbonate graphic vinyl at the end do I even need to put a coat of paint on or does just the primer sanded down smoothly after suffice? If I should paint should I just do one coat, sand well and then lay the graphic (when I get to that point)? Thoughts?  Thanks

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Re: Custom 4 Player Arcade Cabinet (Dark TMNT Theme)
« Reply #46 on: February 19, 2017, 08:40:09 pm »
I'd paint it, at least a coat or two.  Or maybe at least seal it, for the added protection.  I'm planning to always have artwork and plexi on top of mine, as well, but I will throw a coat on there, at the very least.

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Re: Custom 4 Player Arcade Cabinet (Dark TMNT Theme)
« Reply #47 on: June 25, 2017, 01:43:40 pm »


My bro in law finally has time to help me finish this damm thing :applaud: :applaud: Control panel ready to go. Now it's time to build the rest of the cabinet. I need the specific demensions and really like flynn's arcades' shared dimensions. Anyone else try his and want to share how it went? Or have other suggestions? I also plan on adding a keyboard tray

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Re: Custom 4 Player Arcade Cabinet (Dark TMNT Theme)
« Reply #48 on: July 08, 2017, 05:48:14 pm »
Turned out pretty nice. 






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Re: Custom 4 Player Arcade Cabinet (Dark TMNT Theme)
« Reply #49 on: July 08, 2017, 05:52:25 pm »
Finished priming and painting CP base.  Only put primer on the CP top (just as an extra protected layer).  Don't think I will paint top of CP before laying graphic vinyl.  Prolly just leave the primer.  I sanded it pretty good (the top CP piece) so it's nice a smooth.  Thoughts?




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Re: Custom 4 Player Arcade Cabinet (Dark TMNT Theme)
« Reply #50 on: July 08, 2017, 05:53:58 pm »
If i'm going to put graphic vinyl on the cabinet side pieces, should I even bother painting as well? Or should i just do some primer? Or both (as an extra layer of protection), since i'm using MDF wood instead of a stronger HDF? Thanks

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Re: Custom 4 Player Arcade Cabinet (Dark TMNT Theme)
« Reply #51 on: July 09, 2017, 04:53:22 pm »
My next step is to install the cleats on the side panels but could really use some direction so I'm not just winging it (ie for the marquee area, tv mounting, cp mounting, etc.) Thanks

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Re: Custom 4 Player Arcade Cabinet (Dark TMNT Theme)
« Reply #52 on: July 18, 2017, 01:24:13 am »
A couple questions:

1. I haven't decided whether to install the latches on the CP to open from the back or the frontside of the CP.  Any suggestions? Pros and cons?
2. I've noticed some people use metal brackets above and below their marquee and some just do t-molding there.  Thoughts?

Thanks

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Re: Custom 4 Player Arcade Cabinet (Dark TMNT Theme)
« Reply #53 on: September 17, 2017, 11:51:26 pm »
Got all the cleats cut.  Took a little while but finally got them all done. Gonna put them on next week.  Need to also connect the wall mount to the TV to see how deep the mount and the TV run when connected so I know exactly where to put the cleat for the piece that connects to the TV mount.  Moving along


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Re: Custom 4 Player Arcade Cabinet (Dark TMNT Theme)
« Reply #54 on: September 21, 2017, 12:15:16 pm »
Looking good, man! That box is getting close to being up. I love the theme obviously ;)

MUCH cleaner then my build when I started out. I think I had a Wood Filler nightmare that gave me PTSD.

Anyways looking forward to seeing more.
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Re: Custom 4 Player Arcade Cabinet (Dark TMNT Theme)
« Reply #55 on: September 21, 2017, 12:50:24 pm »
You angled the sticks.

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Re: Custom 4 Player Arcade Cabinet (Dark TMNT Theme)
« Reply #56 on: September 21, 2017, 01:22:51 pm »
You angled the sticks.

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Of course.
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Re: Custom 4 Player Arcade Cabinet (Dark TMNT Theme)
« Reply #57 on: September 21, 2017, 02:22:41 pm »
its the perfect compliment to the bulbous aircraft carrier shape!
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Re: Custom 4 Player Arcade Cabinet (Dark TMNT Theme)
« Reply #58 on: September 21, 2017, 03:17:50 pm »
Well we already berated him for that back in November last year. He's stuck, because his bro-in-law is the one doing the handy work, and sounds like a guy who would pants or ball-punch you if you gave him a reason to. :lol

dgrace, at this point I think you're going to just have to suck it up and endure the complaints from people playing on P3 and P4. Perhaps later on in the future you might be able to convince your bro-in-law to take another go at the CP for you. 


A couple questions:

1. I haven't decided whether to install the latches on the CP to open from the back or the frontside of the CP.  Any suggestions? Pros and cons?
In almost all original cabinets that had CP latches, they were almost always mounted in the front. This was because you could attach a tether/chain to the underside and have it swing open and sit without having to prop it up like a car hood.

Here's an image from one of my older projects:


This makes it handy for servicing the controls.


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2. I've noticed some people use metal brackets above and below their marquee and some just do t-molding there.  Thoughts?

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T-molding above and below the marquee is just wrong. The main purpose of t-molding is to protect edges from physical damage. There is no point of having t-molding across the marquee since the likelihood of the physical contact up there is low.
Plus it doesn't serve any practical function, brackets are used to secure the marquee plexi in place, and not just for looking professional.  Marquee plexiglass would be wedged between the brackets and the 2 wood edges going across the cabinet. This is how it's correctly mounted.  There were no "back blocks" or bracing pieces of wood behind the plexi because they would introduce shadows in the marquee light. The only thing bracing the back of a marquee from going inward were the roof and speaker wood pieces that are part of the cabinet's structure.

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Re: Custom 4 Player Arcade Cabinet (Dark TMNT Theme)
« Reply #59 on: September 25, 2017, 05:07:32 pm »
Looking good, man! That box is getting close to being up. I love the theme obviously ;)

MUCH cleaner then my build when I started out. I think I had a Wood Filler nightmare that gave me PTSD.

Anyways looking forward to seeing more.

Thanks Pauly.  I would say the marquee section cleats was the most complicated since we we're basically eye balling it; with a lot of trial and error.  I think we finally got it though. 

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« Reply #60 on: September 25, 2017, 05:21:42 pm »
Thank you Opt2Not for your feedback.  Regarding the angled vs non-angled sticks topic, I actually did a lot of research on that, whether it was reading forums on it, Recroommasters (who does it angled and said they prefer it that way), asking people specifically who posted custom 4 player cabinets on Youtube whether it was angled and if so, whether they liked or disliked it and why, and got a lot of different responses from everyone I contacted.  Some said they hated it angled and some said they preferred them angled (who had done it both ways).  While I'm sure this response will piss off some on these posts, like you said, even if I wanted to change it to non-angled, there's no way it's going to happen anyway (unless I take up wood working myself  :)).  That said, we'll see how it goes.  I've already tested having P3 and P4 buttons connected on my unfinished CP and I didn't initially have any issues with it.  I guess time will tell.  And if I (or others) end up hating it for whatever reason, then I will make a new CP with those changes in the future. 

Regarding opening the CP from the front vs the back, I agree why opening from the back is better, as to not have to open it and prop it up like a car hood whenever I want to go in there and mess with the buttons and wiring.  My only concern is I am installing a plunger on the bottom right of the CP box and I worry about the top of the CP hitting it and obstructing it from opening as far as I'd like it to (as Pauly experienced with his Ready Player One Arcade cab and his plunger).  Ugghhh.  That's a hard one. Because I'm doing the plunger it seems opening from the front would make more sense, but then I'm still faced with having to prop it up like a car hood (like you said).  I've also considered doing a launch ball button instead since I will eventually do a virtual pinball machine (in a couple years) in which a plunger is a must. 

Thanks for your feedback regarding the Metal L-Brackets over the marquee vs T-molding.  That makes perfect sense.

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Re: Custom 4 Player Arcade Cabinet (Dark TMNT Theme)
« Reply #61 on: September 25, 2017, 06:06:32 pm »
fire up some 2 player smash TV and let me know how easy it is to play.
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« Reply #62 on: September 25, 2017, 06:29:56 pm »
fire up some 2 player smash TV and let me know how easy it is to play.

LOL ... I think that's a good point and a fair argument (regarding that game specifically).  Having the angled p3 & p4 sticks would make that game tough.

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Re: Custom 4 Player Arcade Cabinet (Dark TMNT Theme)
« Reply #63 on: September 25, 2017, 09:08:16 pm »
Recroommasters works for you. Just because they’re doing it the wrong way doesn’t mean you have to buy it that way.
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Re: Custom 4 Player Arcade Cabinet (Dark TMNT Theme)
« Reply #64 on: November 14, 2017, 12:19:11 pm »
I just finished cutting all my cabinet pieces with a slot cutter for the t-molding. Hopefully this weekend I can start actually connecting all the pieces and put the cabinet together.  When it comes to determining the width do you just base it off the width of your tv (mine is 32 inch Samsung) and just leave an inch or two of space in between the side panels and each side of the tv? Thanks

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Re: Custom 4 Player Arcade Cabinet (Dark TMNT Theme)
« Reply #65 on: November 14, 2017, 01:49:24 pm »
fire up some 2 player smash TV and let me know how easy it is to play.

LOL ... I think that's a good point and a fair argument (regarding that game specifically).  Having the angled p3 & p4 sticks would make that game tough.
When you're done trying Smash TV let me know how these fair:

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« Reply #66 on: November 14, 2017, 02:14:28 pm »
My 4-player machine has angled sticks, it was made over 8 years ago, wouldn't changed them. You get used to them.

If you ever had a console gaming session with friends and don't get the center seat on the  couch, would you hold the controller straight to face the tv even if you're slightly off to the side?

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Re: Custom 4 Player Arcade Cabinet (Dark TMNT Theme)
« Reply #67 on: November 14, 2017, 03:23:08 pm »
Angled sticks are wrong. If they were correct you wouldn't have to get used to them.

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« Reply #68 on: November 15, 2017, 04:42:09 pm »
fire up some 2 player smash TV and let me know how easy it is to play.

LOL ... I think that's a good point and a fair argument (regarding that game specifically).  Having the angled p3 & p4 sticks would make that game tough.
When you're done trying Smash TV let me know how these fair:

Black Widow
Robotron: 2084
Crazy Climber
Crazy Climber 2
QB-3
Karate Champ
Draco
Angel Kids
Bullet
Libble Rabble
Krull
Splat!
Space Dungeon
Title Fight
Screw Loose
Munch Mobile (a.k.a. Joyful Road)
Mars
Rock Climber

I looked into these games and most of them (like 90%) are either one player or 2 player (taking turns), so one should be able to simply use player 1 and 2 joysticks (non angled) to play the games.  As far as 2 player games requiring 2 joysticks for each player simultaneously, I can see it being a bit of a challenge if player 3 & 4 are angled.  I also plan on having a flight stick, so I guess that could be substituted as one of the joysticks if the angled one was that annoying during a game like Smash TV.  jmike, have you tried Smash TV 2 player using angled player 3 & 4 joysticks? If not, try it out and let us know.  If so, how did it feel? Was it difficult with one joystick being straight and the other being angled? I have tested it on my CP yet.  Thanks

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« Reply #69 on: November 15, 2017, 04:44:02 pm »
Another question.  What are people's thoughts on having a 1/8" plexi covering the CP (for a smoother feel while playing) vs. just having the polycarbonate graphic vinyl over the CP (with no plexi cover before attaching all the buttons and trackball)? Just curious. 

Thanks

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« Reply #70 on: November 15, 2017, 05:25:58 pm »
My 4-player machine has angled sticks, it was made over 8 years ago, wouldn't changed them. You get used to them.

If you ever had a console gaming session with friends and don't get the center seat on the  couch, would you hold the controller straight to face the tv even if you're slightly off to the side?
You got used to them? So you admit they're wrong in the first place?

The console gaming analogy is also disingenuous to this point because A). You hold the entire controller in your hand, and are free to adjust your hand positions, as opposed to standing next to a mounted stationary position.  B). The angle in which you're standing next to the stationary position of a cabinet is greater than the angle you'd sit facing a TV on the couch. And if it were sitting on either end of the couch, not centered, you would angle your body towards the TV as if playing in front of it.

Angled P3 and P4 sticks is just ergonomically wrong. Period.


Another question.  What are people's thoughts on having a 1/8" plexi covering the CP (for a smoother feel while playing) vs. just having the polycarbonate graphic vinyl over the CP (with no plexi cover before attaching all the buttons and trackball)? Just curious. 

Thanks
- Your hands stick to the plexi/acrylic easier when sweating
- Those with rings and watches will scratch the surface of the plexi/acrylic
- Over time, UV light will yellow your plexi/acrylic


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« Reply #71 on: November 15, 2017, 05:50:59 pm »
Thanks opt2not for your feedback on potentially adding plexi to the top of the CP.  You make some valid points. 

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« Reply #72 on: November 15, 2017, 05:52:14 pm »
Does anyone have any recommendations on where to buy a marquee light? Thanks

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« Reply #73 on: November 15, 2017, 06:43:31 pm »
My 4-player machine has angled sticks, it was made over 8 years ago, wouldn't changed them. You get used to them.

If you ever had a console gaming session with friends and don't get the center seat on the  couch, would you hold the controller straight to face the tv even if you're slightly off to the side?
You got used to them? So you admit they're wrong in the first place?

The console gaming analogy is also disingenuous to this point because A). You hold the entire controller in your hand, and are free to adjust your hand positions, as opposed to standing next to a mounted stationary position.  B). The angle in which you're standing next to the stationary position of a cabinet is greater than the angle you'd sit facing a TV on the couch. And if it were sitting on either end of the couch, not centered, you would angle your body towards the TV as if playing in front of it.

Angled P3 and P4 sticks is just ergonomically wrong. Period.


Another question.  What are people's thoughts on having a 1/8" plexi covering the CP (for a smoother feel while playing) vs. just having the polycarbonate graphic vinyl over the CP (with no plexi cover before attaching all the buttons and trackball)? Just curious. 

Thanks
- Your hands stick to the plexi/acrylic easier when sweating
- Those with rings and watches will scratch the surface of the plexi/acrylic
- Over time, UV light will yellow your plexi/acrylic

Thank you, I don’t know why everybody keeps bringing up console controllers. They’re nowhere near the same thing. I know it may seem like they are, but they’re really not.
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Re: Custom 4 Player Arcade Cabinet (Dark TMNT Theme)
« Reply #74 on: November 16, 2017, 08:11:31 am »
Does anyone have any recommendations on where to buy a marquee light? Thanks


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« Reply #75 on: November 16, 2017, 08:59:04 am »
Ive used one of these in the past



They are less than 10 bucks, but i wouldnt do it again. Too much light and orange glow. I would go led every time now.

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« Reply #76 on: November 16, 2017, 03:19:01 pm »
Ive used one of these in the past



They are less than 10 bucks, but i wouldnt do it again. Too much light and orange glow. I would go led every time now.

Get a natural light fluorescent tube. Oranginess solved.
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« Reply #77 on: November 16, 2017, 04:55:01 pm »
Wrap the bulb in yellow paper.  That's what I do and it always looks great.  Hell, print out yellow on white paper on your office printer.  That works great, too.


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« Reply #78 on: November 17, 2017, 10:10:27 am »
Thanks for the suggestions on the marquee light. Any thoughts on my question above regarding determining the width of the cabinet? I was just going have 1 inch of space between sides of tv and cab side panels. Or should I do 2 inches? Thanks

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« Reply #79 on: November 20, 2017, 09:18:33 pm »
Based on my current placement of cleats in the marquee area, my marquee height will be roughly between 5.5 - 5.75".  It's a little more narrow than i'd like but I feel like making it wider might screw up my other placements.  What's the standard height that most prefer? 6" I presume? I guess I don't mind a marquee a little more narrow.  Does anyone have any thoughts on that?  Thanks

  
 

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