80s style wrestling marquee....SIDE ART!

[reptileink]

Marquee final



Final Side Art

[harveybirdman]

Red white and blue background nes prowrestling style?

[reptileink]

Hrmm, it's a little busy, but I like the tie in

[harveybirdman]

Pretty neat but yeah still missing something...

[reptileink]

The more I look at marquees, the more I feel like it's not missing anything...lol. Some of the most iconic marquess have even less..lol.

Also, a question, I have it set for 300PPI, will that translate well to printing? I know everyone says DPI, but I don't seem to have a setting for that in my Photoshop.

[JDFan]

The more I look at marquees, the more I feel like it's not missing anything...lol. Some of the most iconic marquess have even less..lol.

Also, a question, I have it set for 300PPI, will that translate well to printing? I know everyone says DPI, but I don't seem to have a setting for that in my Photoshop.

PPI (pixels per inch) and DPI (dots per inch) are pretty much the same thing - just one (pixels) is for monitors or displays which show images as pixels and the other is for printing which shows things as dots on paper.

[PL1]

How would it look with less stripes?


Scott

[reptileink]

I came up with this as well, but the wrestlers kind of get lost



Less stripes

[reptileink]

The more I look at marquees, the more I feel like it's not missing anything...lol. Some of the most iconic marquess have even less..lol.

Also, a question, I have it set for 300PPI, will that translate well to printing? I know everyone says DPI, but I don't seem to have a setting for that in my Photoshop.

PPI (pixels per inch) and DPI (dots per inch) are pretty much the same thing - just one (pixels) is for monitors or displays which show images as pixels and the other is for printing which shows things as dots on paper.

So will this look like crap when printed?

[PL1]

So will this look like crap when printed?

A 300 PPI image printed at 300 DPI should look as good as it does on the screen -- no resizing artifacts.   


Scott

[pbj]

I vote the less stripes version.

[Titchgamer]

Less stripes for me to out of those.

As a thought though have you tried putting in a ring and just flag up the ring leaving the space around it blank?

[Malenko]

I dont like your font or color choice, mix it up a bit.  I'd also drop the fisherman's suplex guys and just leave the classic 80s drop kick, but lose the drop shadow.  A sloppy example is attached, I was movin quick with my clone stamp and pencil tools since I didnt have the source files.

[reptileink]

Hrmm, not a bad idea Malenko. I will play around some more. What is the cursive font?

[Malenko]

Hrmm, not a bad idea Malenko. I will play around some more. What is the cursive font?

Freestyle Script (Regular)

http://ufonts.com/fonts/freestyle-script.html

[reptileink]

Any other name suggestions?

I was going to name it SlamFest, but I thought that sounded a bit too......dirty...lol

I went through the gammit thinking of wrestling related names that don't end in "cade", though Wrestlecade sounded cool....

This will be a dedicated wrestling cabinet with WWF Superstars, Wrestlefest, WrestleMania, Saturday Night Slam Masters, ProWrestling, FirePro, and maybe a few others. No N64 titles though or anything like that. I have been a wrestling fan since I can remember, and I was lucky enough to grow up in the 80s, and then 90s era when wrestling was at it's best, but I don't want to really add any actual wrestlers to it, but thinking of making some "blank generic" wrestlers with likenesses for the side art/CP.

[yotsuya]

I agree with Malenko about the font. If you want to stick with your original font and color, I would add a white stroke around the lettering. That black and dark blue just doesn't sit right.

And no, Wrestlecade does not sound cool. :-)

[pbj]

I was always partial to the SEGA Wrestle War marquee.....maybe you could take that and shoop off the SEGA logo and call it done...

[reptileink]

I was always partial to the SEGA Wrestle War marquee.....maybe you could take that and shoop off the SEGA logo and call it done...

Yea, I saw that logo, and Taito's Champion Wrestler(which I thought of doctoring) marquees when searching for wrestling art. Problem with those is I would be using existing cabinet artwork that already exists for a custom cabinet. Trying to come up with my own theme on this one.

[reptileink]

Was hoping to do a tangerine color cabinet in true 80s style, but now leaning more towards the "Murica color scheme. This one is starting to grow on me. I was trying to get some stars in the "Squared" part, but didn't have much luck. The "star studded" font I found somehow squished the Q and U together making it unreadable.

Thoughts?

[Titchgamer]

I like that better

But I think you. Need to fill in the "squared" with something to make it pop out.

Maybe texture it with a canvas effect or as you say stars?

[Malenko]

I like that a lot better than your previous ones, and better than my mock up too.

I dont know what version of photoshop you're on, so this suggestion but be harder to do on an older version. Add another stroke of the red to the inside of "SQUARED". Textures and all that look neat but arent very 90s wrestling retro. You could also recolor the guys to match existing wrestlers, the guy drop kicking could be Mr.Perfect , and the guy receiving the drop kick could be redone to match Rick Flair (wooooooooooooooooooo) or whomever you like.

[reptileink]

Yea, no textures going on this one. Straight, clean, 80s art for sure. I think I have PS7 or 8, and am pretty sure I can do the interior line. If not, I have some ideas to get one in there.

Great ideas Malenko, I was messing around with changing their boots and such as the dropkicking wrestler had red boots that got lost in the bars. Mr Perfect wore a singlet, so not sure how well that would look seeing as the drop kicker has tights, but I get your thinking. Ric Flair is possible though. Light blue trunks and boots with platinum blonde hair FTW!

Now, for the CP, how can I get a template for the machine I want to build? I will be making a copy of this Venture cabinet, and can only find the side panel templates so far:


Should I just wait to get the sides put together and then make a template off the CP when I build it? Probably better idea. 

[reptileink]

I think I have finished it!

[pbj]

I like it

[Titchgamer]

Yeah thats good
Only thing that i think looks odd is the light blue patch on the one guys pants!

[yotsuya]

I think I have finished it!

Good for you,  letting it evolve instead of falling in love with the first draft.

[yamatetsu]

That "squared" font looks a bit "washed out" to me. How about adding a thin inside line ?



It's just a subtle difference, but it makes the text look a bit sharper.

[Martijn]

maybe throw in a wrestling belt

[reptileink]

Wow, managed to impress PBJ AND Yots?

Thanks guys, that means it doesn't suck...lol. I've done a bit of touch up here and there, but won't bother with another re-post.

I plan on having a belt of some type in the side art, but actually gotta start the cab before the side art to gain a good idea of size. Not going full size side art.

Yamatetsu, I see what you have there, don't think it makes that much of a difference, but I'll try that as well.

[ed12]

ya u nailed it
CONGRADS

ed

[adder]

how about.... more yellow (you can never have enough yellow)   

[Titchgamer]

Think the yellow is to much tbh.

[yotsuya]

Stick with the white.  In fact,  send it off to the printers now.

[Malenko]

Stick with the white.  In fact,  send it off to the printers now.

Im with Yots. It looks good. Im indifferent on the grey line.

[reptileink]

Yea, I'm calling this part done. Stay tuned for CP and Side art updates as I progress.

Thanks for all who offered input. Being this my first marquee fully designed by me (my Punisher one was done by a friend), it was good to hear feedback. I did not add another inside line, as I feel it really didn't add much. I have touched up "Flair's" trunks to be more baby blue, and fixed a few little colors here and there on his skin (his arm and torso were too white), and fixed some of the tips on the brown hair where yellow was still showing through.

Thanks again! 

[pbj]

Now go cut some boards.  Please.......

[reptileink]

Yes, yes, I know...lol

I am just getting back to work after being on LOA since July, so waiting for a couple paychecks to come in before I splurge. Need a new router first. Already lined up a free PC, and have a CRT that I am using.

Also still undecided on the cabinet style. I thought I had one chosen, but now considering another. I'll start a proper Project Announcement thread when I get underway. Winter is coming

[reptileink]

Side art added to first post.

[Titchgamer]

I like it.

Not sure about the oval ending so abruptly when it meets the text though.

[reptileink]

What else would you suggest? A full circle would look pretty silly running behind the text. This will be a die-cut image, not having a white background. Only thing I can see this morning is that the "circle" text needs to be a bit lower.

[Malenko]

shrink the circle and move it down, have the wrestlers head pop out a bit, like I did in the martijn style art


Just makes them pop more.

[reptileink]

I'll try that when I get home tonight. Otherwise, I think I have a good tie-in.

Does Stpcore do what I am calling "Die-cut" IE: The image has a transparent background (not the white you see), or does it need to have some kind of white border around it?

[Titchgamer]

shrink the circle and move it down, have the wrestlers head pop out a bit, like I did in the martijn style art


Just makes them pop more.

Yeah that will work better I think.

[harveybirdman]

POST IT AT THE FORUM!

I CAN'T SEE IT ON MY PHONE OR ON HERE AT WORK!

[reptileink]

You know what's weird is, I hosted it on imgur because Photobucket is blocked at work, and while I can go to the Imgur website and see it, I can't see it in the forum either. To add to that, I CAN see the marquee which is also hosted at Imgur. Wonder if it's due to the size? It worked fine at home last night. Sorry, I should know better as half the project threads I look at have no images due to work block. So dumb.

EDIT: Alright, was able to get it saved and uploaded.

[harveybirdman]

It's good, matches the theme you're going for, I agree with Malenko about the circle.

[pbj]

sli.mg is the new hotness.  Quit using imgur.

[reptileink]

sli.mg is the new hotness.  Quit using imgur.

Also blocked....lol

[reptileink]

[PL1]

Looking better.   

Here are a few more things you may want to consider.

* The blue oval isn't visible through the gap between "SQ" -- not sure if it should be or not because of the curve.   

* Legs  cut off/not visible through gaps in the letters "UAR".

* The dot over the "i" is messed up.


Scott

[Le Chuck]

If you're using a current version of photoshop to do the art you can render the text as a shape and do your strokes in the shape tool menu, that will give you sharp rather than rounded corners and help crisp up the red.  Looks a little soft as is.

[reptileink]

Looking better.   

Here are a few more things you may want to consider.

* The blue oval isn't visible through the gap between "SQ" -- not sure if it should be or not because of the curve.   

* Legs  cut off/not visible through gaps in the letters "UAR".

* The dot over the "i" is messed up.


Scott

Good call. I knew I had some things to fix. How's this?


Le Chuck, I have Photoshop Elements 7. Not sure what you mean about strokes (sorry, not the most learned PS guy). I like it, but I agree, the red could be a tad sharper

[PL1]

I knew I had some things to fix. How's this?

The dot on the "i" looks great.

The legs look much better, but now there's a flat-top red-triangle copy/paste artifact at the bottom of the trunks.

I'm still not sure about the amount of blue visible through the "Q".   

Maybe it's just the vertical placement, but it seems like you should be able to see a bit of the gray center and the black oval-border.

How would it look if you bring the bottom of the oval down just a little so you can see the black border and gray background through the "Q"?


Scott

[Titchgamer]

I think you want to make the guy a little bigger so his head sticks out a little more.

That will basically loose the oval and eliminate the abrupt stop thing I mentioned earlier as it will break it up.

You could also blur the parts where the blue meets the wrestler etc.

Or you could try a bevel/emboss on the wrestler/text that might make it pop a bit.

As a crazy idea you could also adjust his face paint to look like warrior lol

[Le Chuck]

Stroke is the outline of text.  Looks as tho you have a red inner stroke and a black outer stroke - but it could be two layered outer strokes.  At any rate, as Photoshop is primarily a raster tool is uses a few different functions to calculate radius for strokes.  It doesn't handle sharp corners well as it is move pixels around. More recent versions of the program allow one to convert the text to a vector object and using the vector values give nice sharp corners to the stroke.

AFAIK, elements 7 doesn't have that capability.  At any rate, it is a nit-picky thing.  Overall your art looks great so if it's beyond your software's capability I wouldn't even worry about it. 

[reptileink]

Work officially  "banned" me from coming here at work in the form of a warning 

Anyway, here is the final

[Le Chuck]

Looks as tho there is some ghosting around your wrestler.  Might want to color match his black outline and hit him with a center aligned stroke of the same color a few pixels in either direction to clean up that edge a bit.  Should cover up that fuzzy whiteness.  (layers panel, edit, stroke)

[PL1]

Anyway, here is the final

Looks good.   


Scott

[reptileink]

Looks as tho there is some ghosting around your wrestler.  Might want to color match his black outline and hit him with a center aligned stroke of the same color a few pixels in either direction to clean up that edge a bit.  Should cover up that fuzzy whiteness.  (layers panel, edit, stroke)

Got it

[mike boss]

As a wrestling fan I really like this.
I has a nostalgic feel to me.
Good work.