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Re: Star Wars Rogue One talk
« Reply #40 on: October 20, 2016, 10:28:51 am »



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Re: Star Wars Rogue One talk
« Reply #41 on: October 21, 2016, 10:24:40 am »
It was Grand Moff Tarkin. Vader was the dog Tarkin sent to do his bidding.
Except the overall leader was the Emperor and while Tarkin was one of his military leaders, Vader was his direct progeny behind the scenes.  So while Vader was technically under Tarkin militarily, I would say it was more like Vader was babysitting Tarkin for the Emperor.  Any way you cut it though, Vader was an integral part of the death star and to not have him there in the weeks before the death star was completed would not make any sense in the story.

People who write stories that have no market appeal can be good writers (and can even create new fans), but ultimately will be working as a waiter to pay the bills most of the time.  You just don't take a billion dollar franchise and leave out the elements that made it a billion dollar franchise.  If you want stories in the universe that don't involve the Skywalkers, read some of the books.  Just don't expect them to become big budget movies. 

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Re: Star Wars Rogue One talk
« Reply #42 on: October 21, 2016, 10:29:07 am »
Why haven't I seen a Rogue One themed bartop yet?  >:D

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Re: Star Wars Rogue One talk
« Reply #43 on: October 21, 2016, 11:41:34 am »
It was Grand Moff Tarkin. Vader was the dog Tarkin sent to do his bidding.

People who write stories that have no market appeal can be good writers (and can even create new fans), but ultimately will be working as a waiter to pay the bills most of the time.  You just don't take a billion dollar franchise and leave out the elements that made it a billion dollar franchise.  If you want stories in the universe that don't involve the Skywalkers, read some of the books.  Just don't expect them to become big budget movies.

And that's a damn shame... My favorite part of Star Wars (original Trilogy) was the rebellion... not how convoluted the story got regarding the skywalkers and brothers and sisters... etc. I just wanted the little guys to kick the big guys ass... And I know I am not alone.

That was what was missing for me regarding the prequels.

Personal Preference I suppose.
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Re: Star Wars Rogue One talk
« Reply #44 on: October 21, 2016, 11:44:46 am »
Well... I guess the more I think about it... It looks like besides Kylo Ren the Skywalkers will be phased out anyway (and he is a Solo). I can't believe they will be releasing a new Star Wars movie every single year till we are all dead in the ground. Do you realize that we will never see the end to the Star Wars story???

I just think that is crazy!
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Re: Star Wars Rogue One talk
« Reply #45 on: October 21, 2016, 12:11:49 pm »
Personally I'm almost to the point that I'm just over it.  I have to get a copy of the despecialized trilogy before 20th century fox loses rights and Disney kills it then just hope for a decent Shadows of the Empire movie...

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Re: Star Wars Rogue One talk
« Reply #46 on: December 17, 2016, 09:35:45 pm »
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Well turns out it was ---smurfing--- awesome.  Pink lenses, and I have no idea how they made Tarkin work,  but that ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- was some freaking movoe magic! The gold and red leader was a little much but all of my issues are minor other than the records base being a bit of a mcguffin.

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Re: Star Wars Rogue One talk
« Reply #47 on: December 17, 2016, 10:16:56 pm »
My wife and I saw it this morning, she liked it as did I. She liked the K2-SO bot the most, even more than BB-8 from Force Awakens. I thought it did a good job of being relevant and fitting into that story gap between ep 3 and 4 and explaining the Death Star weakness. Some of the "uncanny valley" CGI stuck out like a sore thumb especially in the closing moments of the film.  Lots of action, and the right amount of Vader to tie it in with the other flicks.

The movie held up well without relying on lightsabers and "the force".
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Re: Star Wars Rogue One talk
« Reply #48 on: December 18, 2016, 05:07:50 am »
Vader was downright badass in this. I'll give this a solid 4/5.

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« Reply #49 on: December 18, 2016, 09:55:37 pm »
It was a nice change to see a Star Wars Film without the crawl.  It is everything you would hope for in a movie (CGI aside) and it was rather poignant this time round.

I'm going to see it again tonight with less of a distraction of little kids and weed smokers in the audience.  ::)
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Re: Star Wars Rogue One talk
« Reply #50 on: December 18, 2016, 09:59:52 pm »
The movie was different... but in a completely unexpected amazing way. I loved it and I wouldn't mind seeing it again. I thought the story moved pretty damn fast (almost too fast) and we didn't learn a damn thing regarding the characters (but that was kind of expected). And yet you rooted for the rebels to give it to the Empire. It was a ton of fun and I thought they did a great job telling an original story!

Still not looking forward to the Han Solo Story... I think that will be a mistake.
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Re: Star Wars Rogue One talk
« Reply #51 on: December 19, 2016, 03:00:14 am »
OMG Vader scene alone is worth the ticket price.

I thought the characters and the entire movie was amazing. Great story and was a pleasure to watch.

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Re: Star Wars Rogue One talk
« Reply #52 on: December 19, 2016, 12:13:50 pm »



Saw it twice yesterday.  Great movie.  Hard to discuss without spoilers so I'm only going to have one minor complaint.


NO BOTHANS DIED IN THAT MOVIE!  WTF.

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Re: Star Wars Rogue One talk
« Reply #53 on: December 19, 2016, 01:20:59 pm »



Saw it twice yesterday.  Great movie.  Hard to discuss without spoilers so I'm only going to have one minor complaint.


NO BOTHANS DIED IN THAT MOVIE!  WTF.

You're getting your movies mixed up.

Bothans died to get info on the 2nd Death Star.

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Re: Star Wars Rogue One talk
« Reply #54 on: December 19, 2016, 01:22:31 pm »



That joke is more of a reference to the early part of this thread than anything else. 

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Re: Star Wars Rogue One talk
« Reply #55 on: December 19, 2016, 01:34:42 pm »
Vader actually scared the little kid in me. The rest of the movie was very entertaining as well.

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Re: Star Wars Rogue One talk
« Reply #56 on: December 19, 2016, 06:25:02 pm »
Vader actually scared the little kid in me. The rest of the movie was very entertaining as well.
The hip sway scared me, the end "power sequence" was awesome though.

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Re: Star Wars Rogue One talk
« Reply #57 on: December 19, 2016, 10:36:08 pm »
I hear some are complaining about cgi peter cushing, I don't know maybe my eyesight at 38 isn't what it used to be but I thought it looked amazing!

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Re: Star Wars Rogue One talk
« Reply #58 on: December 20, 2016, 12:37:59 am »
I hear some are complaining about cgi peter cushing, I don't know maybe my eyesight at 38 isn't what it used to be but I thought it looked amazing!

I personally think it might have been less uncanny valley material if they had used an actor with makeup/prosthetic. He just looked too petite, something was lacking IMHO.

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Re: Star Wars Rogue One talk
« Reply #59 on: December 20, 2016, 01:17:32 am »
Saw it tonight. It was OK. Not as good as "THE FORCE AWAKENS", but still worth watching.

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Re: Star Wars Rogue One talk
« Reply #60 on: December 20, 2016, 02:01:13 am »
I hear some are complaining about cgi peter cushing, I don't know maybe my eyesight at 38 isn't what it used to be but I thought it looked amazing!

The technology sure has improved since the days of CG Arnold in i think Salvation... however it did catch me off guard. My brain was screaming FAKE!! But what the hell else are you going to do??? You NEED Tarkin in a movie like this... He runs the Death Star. You can't have a Death Star Movie without the main Baddie. So I am all for it! They did a great job!
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Re: Star Wars Rogue One talk
« Reply #61 on: December 20, 2016, 02:16:44 am »
Saw it tonight. It was OK. Not as good as "THE FORCE AWAKENS", but still worth watching.

I just think they are two completely different movies going in two totally different directions. You just don't have the luxury of time to develop characters since you don't have 3 movies to do it in... you have like 10 minutes (maybe) to nail down the characters which is nothing. So because of that you almost sacrifice the Adventure element that TFA had.

I think the biggest thing that throws people off in Rogue is that they tried to see how far Disney could stretch this universe without sacrificing the "Star Wars" name. It's pretty ballsy to make a Star Wars movie without all of the characters and music and overall themes that made Star Wars... Star Wars you know? Hell they didn't even do the opening crawl!

 It's just what I kind of wanted. Personally I was sick of the Skywalkers and just kind of sick of seeing more of the same stuff  (Jedi/Sith/The Force/lightsabres) and I wanted something that was going to expand the overall story of the Rebellion vs the Empire and what the average Joe was sacrificing in this conflict. And that's what we got. I think they did a great job. risky but great nonetheless.

So I guess what I am trying to say is that these stand alone movies they are making are going to (hopefully) expand the universe a little bit. I wish wish wish that this is the last Star Wars with a Death Star or Death Star Like weapon. I mean we have 4 out of 8 movies that have that damn thing!
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Re: Star Wars Rogue One talk
« Reply #62 on: December 20, 2016, 08:03:33 am »
I hear some are complaining about cgi peter cushing, I don't know maybe my eyesight at 38 isn't what it used to be but I thought it looked amazing!

It was the other way for me, I thought Cushing looked really good, especially considering the amount of screen time.
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Re: Star Wars Rogue One talk
« Reply #63 on: December 20, 2016, 09:06:16 am »
I hear some are complaining about cgi peter cushing, I don't know maybe my eyesight at 38 isn't what it used to be but I thought it looked amazing!

It was the other way for me, I thought Cushing looked really good, especially considering the amount of screen time. Leia........not so much.

I didn't know there would be CGI characters in this, so when i saw Tarkin, i thought, "Wow, they really found a good look-a-like actor." I'm a bit ashamed to say i never realized it was CG.  Leah was obvious, but for really obvious reasons (and thankfully, only a brief moment.)
 

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Re: Star Wars Rogue One talk
« Reply #64 on: December 20, 2016, 10:29:39 am »
Saw it tonight. It was OK. Not as good as "THE FORCE AWAKENS", but still worth watching.

Get that TFA talk outta here, this was so much better than EP 7 it's not even close bruh...  ;D ;) >:D


Anyway here are a few things I probablly would have changed


1)  I would have had a smaller ship leave the Rebel ship at the end of the skirmish.  (C'mon Princess, no one's going to believe you're on a diplomatic mission to Alderaan when you fled the scene of a full scale rebel battle)

2) It would have been a bit more believable to me if wreckage from an exploding x wing knocked out the antenna adjuster at an inopportune time rather than have an imperial fighter shoot at Jynn and then you know disappear

3) I'm not too sure how I feel about the death star being powered by lightsaber crystals.  On the positive though, if there was supposed to be an allegory of the Middle East for the planet that was being deprived of its energy resources and embroiled with stryfe and an occupation force it was subtle enough not to bother me (unlike "want to buy some death sticks" and the obvious NASCAR overtones of the pod races) and it was also a palpable environment, really loved that part of the movie.

4) While I loved the Tarkin stuff, as already mentioned, the Red Leader and Gold Leader stuff felt forced.  And the Red 5 stuff was just a little too much of hey look at this inside joke, you know who the next Red 5 is don't you audience?????

5) Did anyone else think the shield at the imperial records base had a security code of 1, 2, 3, 4,5?  The correlation down to the way it opened was a bit hilarious.

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Re: Star Wars Rogue One talk
« Reply #65 on: December 20, 2016, 10:33:52 am »
I hear some are complaining about cgi peter cushing, I don't know maybe my eyesight at 38 isn't what it used to be but I thought it looked amazing!

It was the other way for me, I thought Cushing looked really good, especially considering the amount of screen time. Leia........not so much.


Might want to spoiler tag that.  Seriously.  harveybirdman too.  Still too soon.

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Re: Star Wars Rogue One talk
« Reply #66 on: December 20, 2016, 10:45:46 am »
I hear some are complaining about cgi peter cushing, I don't know maybe my eyesight at 38 isn't what it used to be but I thought it looked amazing!

It was the other way for me, I thought Cushing looked really good, especially considering the amount of screen time.Leia........not so much.


Might want to spoiler tag that.  Seriously.  harveybirdman too.  Still too soon.

Are you kidding me?
The IMDB page says "The Rebel Alliance makes a risky move to steal the plans for the Death Star, setting up the epic saga to follow."

Everyone who's seen any of the Star Wars movies knows Leia had the plans. Not mentioning that is like having to spoiler tag that there is a Death Star.
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Re: Star Wars Rogue One talk
« Reply #67 on: December 20, 2016, 12:25:02 pm »
I hear some are complaining about cgi peter cushing, I don't know maybe my eyesight at 38 isn't what it used to be but I thought it looked amazing!

It was the other way for me, I thought Cushing looked really good, especially considering the amount of screen time. Leia........not so much.


Might want to spoiler tag that.  Seriously.  harveybirdman too.  Still too soon.

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« Reply #68 on: December 20, 2016, 01:47:00 pm »
Thread titled updated

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« Reply #69 on: December 20, 2016, 01:56:37 pm »
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats.

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Re: Star Wars Rogue One talk (WARNING SPOILERS)
« Reply #70 on: December 20, 2016, 09:34:50 pm »
Just got back from the movies.  I'm not a hardcore star wars fan.
I thought it was awesome!  Definitely one of the best movies I've seen this year.
Much better than the last Star Wars reboot.
There were a ton of shots where I thought "holy crap that shot was done well"...and they just kept coming.

After they landed at the citadel and talked about transmitting the plans I started thinking that the perfect ending would be for everyone to die.
There were a lot of small kids in the theater so I was going to forgive them if the writers had the main hero escape for the sake of younger audiences.
Turned out they had the balls to do it right.   :applaud:

If I had to nitpick:

Something about the accents bothered me.  The lead character's father had a different accent than she did.  Nobody else in the movie had the same accent as the rebel guy.  (yeah, I don't bother remembering their names.  It's only a movie.)  Everyone gets a random accent!

I expected a LOT more hilarity out of a droid without a speech filter.   A lot of his lines were sarcasm rather than the lack of a filter.

I rolled my eyes when x-wings started doing bombing runs across a giant metal surface again.

Everything at the citadel was a video game script.  It was like it was written with controller movements/limitations in mind.  I supposed they could just be trying to make it relatable to the kids that play modern games.

This is nitpicking though.  The movie was amazing.
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Re: Star Wars Rogue One talk (WARNING SPOILERS)
« Reply #71 on: December 20, 2016, 10:22:14 pm »
Just realized that this movie also fits the standard Disney script of the dead mother and distant father.  Hey, if it works every time.....

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Re: Star Wars Rogue One talk (WARNING SPOILERS)
« Reply #72 on: December 21, 2016, 03:14:42 am »
I saw it a few Days ago and loved it.

My favorite part my have been when there was no star wars wipe and every other time they just did things differently for all the other movies.

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« Reply #73 on: December 21, 2016, 03:52:44 am »


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Much better than the last Star Wars reboot.
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There are no Star Wars reboots. However Batman and Spiderman got many reboots.

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Re: Star Wars Rogue One talk (WARNING SPOILERS)
« Reply #74 on: December 21, 2016, 05:44:52 am »

There are no Star Wars reboots. However Batman and Spiderman got many reboots.

True,

I think Star war fan boys would start an acteral violent rebellion if Disney tried to reboot.

It's my personal wish that the star track reboot ends with Ben Sisco intervention to restor the time line.

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Re: Star Wars Rogue One talk (WARNING SPOILERS)
« Reply #75 on: December 21, 2016, 09:56:01 am »
I think Star war fan boys would start an acteral violent rebellion if Disney tried to reboot.

Force Awakens is in effect a reboot... and a poorly done one at that.

I enjoyed Rogue One more than Force Awakens but that is damning with faint praise.

Rouge One had a number of glaring continuity errors and very erratic story (I think we see the reported re-shoots in action here) soundtrack was not overtly Star Wars but not memorable either. Best characters are K2 and the Kung Fu force/non-jedi guy.

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Re: Star Wars Rogue One talk (WARNING SPOILERS)
« Reply #76 on: December 21, 2016, 12:01:07 pm »
I think Star war fan boys would start an acteral violent rebellion if Disney tried to reboot.


What good is Stormtrooper armor if it can be defeated with a dude with a stick?  WTH

Great point... but what the hell does Stormtrooper armor even do... We learned it doesn't filter out gass (TFA), We know it can't stop a blaster (ALL), We know you can barely see out of the damn thing (ANH), you can get beat down with a stick (ROTJ and Rogue), Stones hurt (ROTJ), I can't remember if ewok arrows were able to pierce it...

It has to be the worst designed armor in any movie ever.
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats.

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Re: Star Wars Rogue One talk (WARNING SPOILERS)
« Reply #77 on: December 22, 2016, 01:27:49 pm »



If you go by the books most of the Stormtroopers are crappy soldiers because they are conscripted and don't want to win.

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Re: Star Wars Rogue One talk (WARNING SPOILERS)
« Reply #78 on: December 23, 2016, 10:10:13 am »
The armor is probably more for intimidation than anything else.

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Re: Star Wars Rogue One talk (WARNING SPOILERS)
« Reply #79 on: December 23, 2016, 11:49:11 am »
I went to see it today.
I thought it was alright.
It answered the questions that were between episode 3 & 4 and wasn't the usual star wars blend.

  
 

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