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Golden Tee Fore! Complete - Does not load to courses
« on: October 12, 2016, 10:41:08 pm »
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Quick rundown. New HDD, 2.09 chip, green board...game boots just fine. After selecting a course and the All 18 holes, Front 9, Back 9 game freezes.

Attached photo is before new HDD and chip.

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Re: Golden Tee Fore! Complete - Does not load to courses
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2016, 01:27:59 pm »
power on unit holding down the start button to load a whole suite of tests. Also do a test on the hard drive. maybe you have a bad file on there. (even though it's new)

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Re: Golden Tee Fore! Complete - Does not load to courses
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2016, 01:53:52 pm »
power on unit holding down the start button to load a whole suite of tests. Also do a test on the hard drive. maybe you have a bad file on there. (even though it's new)

I believe I tried to hold start while powering on but got nothing to happen, not even the "Scanning for HDD" message.

And when you say test the HDD do you mean outside the game?  Or is there a test in the menus that I did not see?

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Re: Golden Tee Fore! Complete - Does not load to courses
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2016, 03:32:59 pm »
by pressing and holding the start button at (start-up=boot)
u are forcing the game to a test menu (service if u will).
my questions how ever are
is this a "copy" drive ? ie: did some one or u copy this from another hard drive ?
have u done a "scan disk on the drive"
this test MUST  be done outside of the golden tee board ie: on another computer
if it fails scan disk ? then that is the freezing problem
did the person and or u do a scan disk on the original hard drive (THIS IS IMPORTANT) because the error
will be copyed over to the new drive as a error log and be made into a .dat file
which will cause the exact error u speak of

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Re: Golden Tee Fore! Complete - Does not load to courses
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2016, 03:42:21 pm »
by pressing and holding the start button at (start-up=boot)
u are forcing the game to a test menu (service if u will).
my questions how ever are
is this a "copy" drive ? ie: did some one or u copy this from another hard drive ?
have u done a "scan disk on the drive"
this test MUST  be done outside of the golden tee board ie: on another computer
if it fails scan disk ? then that is the freezing problem
did the person and or u do a scan disk on the original hard drive (THIS IS IMPORTANT) because the error
will be copyed over to the new drive as a error log and be made into a .dat file
which will cause the exact error u speak of

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Thank you for that. I am assuming you want me to connect the drive to a Windows PC and run the DOS command 'scandisk' or do you mean 'chkdsk'?

For future testing, after the disk has been scanned and there is an error or is not, what are the next steps and vice versa for the latter result?

The drive and Eagle 2.09 was purchased from Arcade-Service. I made sure to match the version of the chip (G4C-US-U) to the HDD (GT Fore! Complete).

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Re: Golden Tee Fore! Complete - Does not load to courses
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2016, 04:01:58 pm »
scandisk can be ran with other programs
personally I use partition wizard.
it is free ware and bug free (no malware)
and thank you for making sure we have matching hardware to software :)
saves me some hair :)
so yes scan the disk first and we go from there

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Re: Golden Tee Fore! Complete - Does not load to courses
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2016, 04:15:38 pm »
Got it. Just to be on the same page, which operation within Partition Wizard should I use?  We actually use it in our shop regularly.

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Re: Golden Tee Fore! Complete - Does not load to courses
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2016, 04:20:14 pm »
Now that I glanced around the UI a bit more I see there is 'Check File System' and that must be what you are referring to.

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Re: Golden Tee Fore! Complete - Does not load to courses
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2016, 04:23:19 pm »
no I want u to do a surface test
it is the same thing
btw I use partition wizard mini 9.1
it is good for windows xp to 10
if it passes surface test ? the drive is good to go
and u should only need a new .img

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Re: Golden Tee Fore! Complete - Does not load to courses
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2016, 04:26:54 pm »
Got it. I will report back.  :cheers:

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Re: Golden Tee Fore! Complete - Does not load to courses
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2016, 04:33:04 pm »
please do

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Re: Golden Tee Fore! Complete - Does not load to courses
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2016, 04:08:47 pm »
Took me a bit to get the drive back but I have and it is testing now.  So far there are 2 errors and it is not halfway through the test yet.  I am assuming this is the issue and there is no fixing it, just get a new drive.

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Re: Golden Tee Fore! Complete - Does not load to courses
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2016, 05:27:58 pm »
13 errors and the test has pretty much come to a halt.

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Re: Golden Tee Fore! Complete - Does not load to courses
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2016, 09:06:06 pm »
ye she's pooched.

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Re: Golden Tee Fore! Complete - Does not load to courses
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2016, 09:24:01 pm »
new drive is in order

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Re: Golden Tee Fore! Complete - Does not load to courses
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2016, 11:08:21 pm »
Will any IDE drive work? I have a few 160s laying around the shop.

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Re: Golden Tee Fore! Complete - Does not load to courses
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2016, 11:19:52 pm »
rather large for 10meg but hey
just make sure u follow the simple rules
scan first to make sure u have no sector errors..
if no u should be good to go
also remember to get a fresh gt-complete copy
do not use your back ups as the dat file the game made will transfer over
and u will be in the same boat

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Re: Golden Tee Fore! Complete - Does not load to courses
« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2016, 11:24:33 pm »
lilshawn sent me a chd of complete. Hopefully that will work.

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Re: Golden Tee Fore! Complete - Does not load to courses
« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2016, 11:32:24 pm »
it should work fine.
if not ring me up
only question I have
and do not let this insult u
have u ever used chd's ?

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Re: Golden Tee Fore! Complete - Does not load to courses
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2016, 11:35:22 pm »
No offense taken. It has been awhile since I have had to use CHDMAN but I am sure that I can get it done. I hope.  Any pointers?

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Re: Golden Tee Fore! Complete - Does not load to courses
« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2016, 11:43:45 pm »
yes most people forget to run diskmgmt.msc to enable the drive

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Imaging and Restoring Hard Drives using MAME's CHDMAN Utility

What You Will Need:

Capability to navigate your hard drive from within DOS or a Windows command prompt.
ST9150AG Killer Instinct hard drive or MAME CHD image file (info only).
ST9420AG Killer Instinct 2 hard drive or MAME CHD image file (info only).
Appropriate hardware adapters: IDE to 44-Pin Laptop Adapter, CompactFlash card reader, USB adapters work just fine.
CHDMAN v140 - MAME's CHDMAN Utility for Windows Operating Systems (CHD v4 Support)
CHDMAN v146 - MAME's CHDMAN Utility for Windows Operating Systems (CHD v5 Support)
Typically this page is updated only on "decade" MAME releases - ie: v140, v150, etc.
Otherwise, constantly keeping up with MAME interim releases becomes a part-time occupation. :)

Due to a re-write of CHDMAN starting with MAME v145u1, the command syntax has changed.
The new LZMA compression algorithms have brought SIGNIFICANT reductions in hard drive image sizes.

This page has been updated to reflect those changes.

Always attempt to create/restore images using the same version of CHDMAN the images were created with.
CHDMAN is always under development, so be aware some older images and versions of CHDMAN may be incompatible/outdated.
As long as your CHD files match the MAME and CHDMAN release version, you will be fine.


Who Can Benefit From This Information?

You have an arcade game with a hard drive and would like to back up the data to protect your investment.
You have a personal hard drive (operating system or otherwise) that you would like to back up using free software.
CHDMAN is a free alternative to Ghost and other commercial image-based data backup programs.
You want to restore your saved hard drive image to another hard drive or compatible device (CompactFlash card, etc.)
You want to submit an arcade hard drive image to MAME developers without having to ship your hardware away.


WARNINGS and DISCLAIMERS

Mistakes made while using the following procedures
can result in total data loss, erased/un-bootable Operating System
drives, deleted partitions, etc.

A single typographical error can lead to a catastrophic loss of data.

If you are inexperienced or uncomfortable with this disclaimer,
please purchase a Killer Instinct hard drive replacement kit or
contact me or another technically-savvy individual about backing up
and/or restoring your data for you.

Windows, by its very design, will attempt to be user friendly,
but do not EVER allow it to format or partition/modify your
original/source hard drive during this process or it will be
absolutely ruined.

Init and Convert Disk Wizard

Disk Not Formatted

Initialize Disk

Do You Want To Format?


Before You Begin: Get Organized!

1.) I highly recommend reading these instructions from start to finish before beginning. Do not "jump in."
2.) If you are creating/restoring hard drive image files, use short paths such as "c:\ki" or "e:\hdimages".
3.) If creating a hard drive image, note/record the size (in Megabytes/Gigabytes) of the original hard drive.
4.) Ensure your destination drive has the available space required to create the hard drive image file.
5.) Copy the CHDMAN executable file into your chosen destination folder (for future version control).



Using CHDMAN to Create A Hard Drive Image (Physical Disk to a File)


1.) Disconnect / Remove any hard drives or flash memory cards that may cause confusion.
2.) Connect the source hard drive to your PC. The easiest way is via USB to IDE (or SATA) adapters.
3.) Click "Start" > Run, and enter "diskmgmt.msc". This opens the Windows Disk Management Service interface.
4.) Using the size of your source hard drive, find it within the Disk Manager.
5.) Record the Disk Number that Windows has assigned the drive.
Your "C" drive will usually be Disk 1, and in this example my KI 2 drive was assigned Disk 3.


Windows Disk Management Interface
Make note of the Disk number Windows has assigned your source hard drive. Leave Disk Management open.
(If Killer Instinct 2 is a 420.8MB drive why does Windows show it as a 402MB drive? Either ignore it, or learn all about it.)

NOTE: Many hard drives (including Killer Instinct) will not be assigned a drive letter in Windows.
They will be shown as unknown, unallocated, not initialized, or RAW. This is NORMAL and only means
that Windows does not recogize the drive's filesystem.


Open a DOS/Windows command window: Click "Start" > Run, and enter "cmd".

In Vista/Windows 7:
"Start" > "All Programs" > "Accessories" > Right-Click "Command Prompt" and select 'Run as Administrator'.

Change to the directory with your CHDMAN executable file. This tutorial will use "C:\KI".

C:\KI Directory
This image shows our "KI" directory listing with the CHDMAN executable present.
Depending on the version of CHDMAN, the CHDMAN file size may differ...(v140 shown)


CHDMAN Command Listing CHDMAN Command Listing
Type only the name of the executable to see all of the commands CHDMAN is capable of.


v140: To create the KI2 hard drive image, type:
chdman -createhd \\.\PHYSICALDRIVE3 kinst2.chd
CHDMAN KI2 Drive Image Complete
This process took the contents of PHYSICALDRIVE3 and wrote it to a file named kinst2.chd.


The PHYSICALDRIVE attribute requires the disk number you recorded earlier from Windows Disk Management.
If your source disk number was 5, you would have substituted "\\.\PHYSICALDRIVE5" in the example above.

v146+: To create the KI2 hard drive image, type:
chdman createhd -o kinst2.chd -i \\.\PHYSICALDRIVE3
CHDMAN KI2 Drive Image Complete
NOTE: If you get the error about CHS values, you MUST provide them. You can usually find
this information printed on the top of the drive, otherwise, look it up on the drive manufacturer's website.
KI2 Drive - CHS Info

Congratulations!
You have successfully backed up a physical hard drive to an image file.

It would be a good idea to burn this file to a CD or DVD
so you always have a backup copy available.


Using CHDMAN to Write/Restore an Image to a Physical Hard Drive (File to Physical Disk)


As you might expect, restoring an image file (*.CHD) to a physical drive is essentially
the opposite of creating an hard drive image.

1.) Your destination drive must be at least the same size as the original source drive you imaged.
2.) You should always attempt to image the identical make/model hard drive as the source drive
before attempting to use CompactFlash or alternate sized hard drives.
3.) If the manufacturer has implemented copy protection algorithms in their boot ROMs, imaged drives
will almost always fail. They may reset randomly, crash while running, or not even boot up.
4.) If Step #2 works for you, it is likely that alternate media will work as well.
5.) Some arcade machines will require modified boot ROMs to function 100%. KI 2 is a perfect example.


This example uses a CompactFlash memory card as the destination drive.

1.) Disconnect / Remove any hard drives or flash memory cards that may cause confusion.
2.) Connect the destination hard drive to your PC. The easiest way is via USB to IDE (or SATA) adapters.
3.) Click "Start" > Run, and enter "diskmgmt.msc". This opens the Windows Disk Management Service interface.
4.) Using the size of your destination hard drive, find it within the Disk Manager.
5.) Record the Disk Number that Windows has assigned the drive.
In this example my 512MB CompactFlash card was assigned Disk 0.


Windows Disk Management Interface
Make note of the Disk number Windows has assigned your CompactFlash card. Leave Disk Management open.
(If the CompactFlash card is 512MB, why does Windows show it as a 481MB drive? Either ignore it, or learn all about it.)


Open a DOS/Windows command window: Click "Start" > Run, and enter "cmd".

In Vista/Windows 7:
"Start" > "All Programs" > "Accessories" > Right-Click "Command Prompt" and select 'Run as Administrator'.

Change to the directory with your CHDMAN executable file. This tutorial will use "c:\ki".

CHDMAN Info Output on KI2 Image File
Here is a directory listing of our KI folder with kinst2.chd image file and the CHDMAN executables.
The "-info" switch will report the CHD image file's specifications.

v140 - To restore the KI2 image file to your destination physical disk, type:
chdman -extract kinst2.chd \\.\PHYSICALDRIVE0
KI2 Image Successfully Restored
v146+ - To restore the KI2 image file to your destination physical disk, type:
chdman extracthd -i kinst2.chd -o \\.\PHYSICALDRIVE0 -f
KI2 Image Successfully Restored
This process extracted the kinst2.chd image to the destination device (PHYSICALDRIVE0).
(The "-f" switch tells CHDMAN to forcefully overwrite any existing data/partitions.)

The PHYSICALDRIVE attribute requires the disk number you recorded earlier from Windows Disk Management.
If your destination disk number was 3, you would have substituted "\\.\PHYSICALDRIVE3" in the example above.


If imaging is successful, Windows may ask if you want to
format your drive. Do NOT allow this operation on your newly imaged drive!


Error Writing Hunk
CHDMAN v145 and lower: If you receive a "error writing hunk" message, this is due to
data and/or partitions existing on the hard drive. At this point, however, you have obliterated them with CHDMAN.

From Windows Disk Management (Action -> Rescan Disks), or disconnect and re-connect your drive or CF adapter.
Re-try the same extract operation and it should complete successfully. If you clean the drive using DISKPART
prior to imaging, you will not see this message.

In CHDMAN v145u1 and newer, you will be required to add '-f' to FORCE the overwrite of the existing data/partitions.

ALWAYS RE-VERIFY THE PHYSICALDRIVE NUMBER WHEN RE-ATTACHING DRIVES!


Safely Remove Your Drive!
Always "Safely Remove" your USB device from Windows!
(Right Click the USB icon in your taskbar, select 'Safely Remove Hardware')


Congratulations!
You have successfully restored an image file to a physical device.

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Re: Golden Tee Fore! Complete - Does not load to courses
« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2016, 11:51:17 pm »
That's the exact site I was following. I will report back after doing the work or if I have any questions.

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Re: Golden Tee Fore! Complete - Does not load to courses
« Reply #22 on: November 02, 2016, 12:01:16 am »
perfect
just remember in windows 7-8-10 u use as adm.
in xp it is just normal no need for adm.

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Re: Golden Tee Fore! Complete - Does not load to courses
« Reply #23 on: November 02, 2016, 10:47:49 am »
Which version of CHDMAN should I be using? v140 or v146?  Or does it matter?

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Re: Golden Tee Fore! Complete - Does not load to courses
« Reply #24 on: November 02, 2016, 11:56:40 am »
146 Is easy.

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Re: Golden Tee Fore! Complete - Does not load to courses
« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2016, 12:39:58 pm »
it doesn't really matter, between the 2 versions the syntax options changed a little bit.... the instructions  for the killer instinct drive dump/load have the options for both older and newer versions. just check which version you have and use the appropriate syntax options. they both work equally.

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Re: Golden Tee Fore! Complete - Does not load to courses
« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2016, 12:42:02 pm »
Used 146. Easy enough. Although there are no clear instructions that you need to use 'diskpart' and the clean function.  If I already didn't know how to use diskpart, that would be confusing to some folk.

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Re: Golden Tee Fore! Complete - Does not load to courses
« Reply #27 on: November 02, 2016, 12:56:54 pm »
hmm never used disk part ?
I always just loaded straight to the drive using the "cmd" line

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Re: Golden Tee Fore! Complete - Does not load to courses
« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2016, 01:04:12 pm »
You don't HAVE to, you can just dump the data on and hope for the best. It's always a good idea to make sure you are writing to a good disk though. If i'm using a brand new drive, i'll just do it... but if it's used, i'll take the time and do a full check and format and whatnot on it to be sure. I don't want to take a machine 3 or 4 hours out of town and have a drive crap out on me 2 months later.

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Re: Golden Tee Fore! Complete - Does not load to courses
« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2016, 01:05:49 pm »
exactly

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Re: Golden Tee Fore! Complete - Does not load to courses
« Reply #30 on: November 02, 2016, 02:57:47 pm »
When I fired tried it I got an error about check drive space or something.  After I did a diskpart and clean, it completed successfully. /shrug

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Re: Golden Tee Fore! Complete - Does not load to courses
« Reply #31 on: November 02, 2016, 03:04:33 pm »
so then it is working ?

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Re: Golden Tee Fore! Complete - Does not load to courses
« Reply #32 on: November 02, 2016, 03:05:18 pm »
Client is coming to pick up the HDD today and will let me know what happens.

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Re: Golden Tee Fore! Complete - Does not load to courses
« Reply #33 on: November 02, 2016, 06:07:07 pm »
depending on the hard drive supplied, you may need to update the eagle bootrom to the latest version to get it to work with the harddrive.

if it boot loops with the new drive, attach an empty CD rom drive to the other drive connector and boot it up. the CD rom drive will make the machine tink it's being updated...fail, them boot the harddrive. it's a scabby work around for a compawompus programming error in the boot rom which was fixed in the newest version. (see other thread on eagle bootrom)

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Re: Golden Tee Fore! Complete - Does not load to courses
« Reply #34 on: November 02, 2016, 06:27:02 pm »
depending on the hard drive supplied, you may need to update the eagle bootrom to the latest version to get it to work with the harddrive.

if it boot loops with the new drive, attach an empty CD rom drive to the other drive connector and boot it up. the CD rom drive will make the machine tink it's being updated...fail, them boot the harddrive. it's a scabby work around for a compawompus programming error in the boot rom which was fixed in the newest version. (see other thread on eagle bootrom)

I have the eagle 2.09, so it should still work right?

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Re: Golden Tee Fore! Complete - Does not load to courses
« Reply #35 on: November 02, 2016, 07:32:37 pm »
yes, i believe 2.09 is the latest one.

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Re: Golden Tee Fore! Complete - Does not load to courses
« Reply #36 on: November 02, 2016, 07:42:38 pm »
the lastest is and last is 2.09
most common was 2.07
with 2.09 it will boot any size drive

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Re: Golden Tee Fore! Complete - Does not load to courses
« Reply #37 on: November 02, 2016, 07:50:24 pm »
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Re: Golden Tee Fore! Complete - Does not load to courses
« Reply #38 on: November 02, 2016, 07:58:25 pm »
Just got a call from the client. Same exact issue.

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Re: Golden Tee Fore! Complete - Does not load to courses
« Reply #39 on: November 02, 2016, 08:16:47 pm »
can the client bring back the hard drive ?
if so then please allow me to walk u through the process
I kinda had a bad feeling when u said u had to use partdisk
u were going to have problems.
the fix is simple in my world but u will need to listen real close ok ?  :)

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