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Author Topic: Nintendo is bringing back the NES NES Classic Edition  (Read 18520 times)

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #80 on: September 21, 2016, 02:57:32 pm »



The Vectrex32 does that sort of thing.  Turns the Vectrex itself into basically an IO device and runs the Vectrex code on the cartridge.  Greatly expands the CPU and memory of the system and comes with a full IDE.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #81 on: September 30, 2016, 08:19:35 am »
Japan is getting their own version.

https://www.engadget.com/2016/09/29/nintendo-famicom-mini-japan/

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #82 on: September 30, 2016, 09:52:01 am »
Maybe it's just me, but I'm kinda hoping that someone with a Raspberry Pi plays one of these things, likes what they see, and comes up with a way to make something similar on our neglected Pis....


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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #83 on: September 30, 2016, 10:15:08 am »
Maybe it's just me, but I'm kinda hoping that someone with a Raspberry Pi plays one of these things, likes what they see, and comes up with a way to make something similar on our neglected Pis....
Have you seen this? It's pretty awesome.
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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #84 on: September 30, 2016, 10:25:23 am »
Yes, that takes care of the look but the front end experience on Pi is terrible.


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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES — only a little smaller
« Reply #85 on: September 30, 2016, 11:00:31 am »
If you watch the Japanese version video, they are actually giving quite a few hints about this thing:

1. They show the dashboard and how you will select a game.
2. They show how save-states work
3. They show what might be screen filters like "smooth" or "blocky"
4. Does anyone know Japanese? They briefly mention the USB port on the back...what's that for? ;)
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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #86 on: September 30, 2016, 11:21:42 am »
USB port is for the power supply.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #87 on: September 30, 2016, 11:23:45 am »
If you watch the Japanese version video, they are actually giving quite a few hints about this thing:

1. They show the dashboard and how you will select a game.
2. They show how save-states work
3. They show what might be screen filters like "smooth" or "blocky"
4. Does anyone know Japanese? They briefly mention the USB port on the back...what's that for? ;)

USB mini port is probably the Power supply connection (didn't see any other power input)

EDIT : Looks like PBJ got it posted before me and came to the same conclusion !

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES — only a little smaller
« Reply #89 on: September 30, 2016, 01:43:42 pm »
So Kotaku just posted some additional information about the NES Classic.

The GOOD news:

- It will hold up to 4 different suspend points per game
- You’ll also be able to see the original NES manuals by scanning QR codes that appear on your screen. (This is a little strange)
- Each game will be playable in three display modes: CRT filter (scan-line effect), 4:3 (maintains the original aspect ratio), and Pixel Perfect (turns every pixel into a perfect square)

The BAD news:

- The controllers are wired, and the wires are very short (around 3ft  :dizzy:)
- In order to use save states or switch games, you have to hit the Reset button on the console. There’s no “home” button functionality on the controller.
- It's strictly an offline-only console. (We all pretty much knew this was coming tho)

And here is what the US interface will look like:


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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #90 on: October 07, 2016, 10:39:53 am »
Doc says I can read and write normally now, so I'll chime in on this. 

Judging by the interface, save states and the crt filter, I was probably spot on in thinking that this is some recycled wii tech.  A famicom classic is also being released.... it's shaped like a mini famicom.  It's library and gui is slightly different, which makes me think that there must be some way to access the firmware on these boards as I seriously doubt they made a different motherboard for each unit.  If we are lucky they used the usb power port, which is often used to update firmware on devices like the xbox one gamepads.  IF that is true and IF the emulator is similar to those used on wii/wii u vc games, then it will be quite simple to swap out roms and only slightly more complicated to swap out textures.  I mean, I figured it out last time if that tells you how easy it was. 

Wouldn't you know that they start rolling out the pre-orders right after my surgery when I'm not allowed to read, so I missed that boat.  Hopefully I can get one at launch. 

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #91 on: November 04, 2016, 12:10:26 pm »
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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #92 on: November 04, 2016, 05:33:01 pm »
He doesn't show the other side though.  It's about what I expected.... an onboard flash chip similar to the Wii, but I was hoping some easy to solder test points were on the thing.  Someone will eventually hack it though, it's just a matter of if it'll be too difficult for the average joe to do. 

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #93 on: November 11, 2016, 10:04:30 am »
Well this is going to be another nightmare to get like the wii.  Tried online last night... no dice.  I could have tried Walmart, but I think I'm officially too old to wait in line at midnight for a do-dad.  Eh.... we'll try this again next spring most likely. 

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #94 on: November 11, 2016, 10:28:10 am »
If you really want one, have your Amazon account and quick mouse finger ready to go.

Amazon is making them available at 2pm PT. A whole bunch of nerds will be hitting F5.
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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #95 on: November 11, 2016, 11:04:44 am »
Couple of my friends have been going to store after store trying to get one.... sold out everywhere instantly.


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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #96 on: November 11, 2016, 11:47:29 am »
It dumbfounds me that Nintendo still can't figure out how many of an item to make.  Somebody in marketing needs fired.  I also can't fathom why they aren't selling things directly from their website.  I mean they have warehouses so it wouldn't cost them anything and they could keep whatever cut they normally give to the retailers. 

I know about the amazon sale (5pm est), but I've tried getting things from them before.... not optimistic. 

This isn't a must-have for me, so I can be patient.  3rd party controllers and accessories are already rolling out, so it might be best to wait for nyko to make a version with a longer cord and a home button....thus eliminating the two flaws of the unit.  There are some out already, but the buttons are arranged weird. 

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #97 on: November 11, 2016, 12:08:39 pm »
Well, the included games are a pile of crap, so I fully anticipate picking up one of these things barely used in January.


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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES — only a little smaller
« Reply #98 on: November 11, 2016, 12:09:56 pm »
Well, the included games are a pile of crap

What lineup would PBJ have preferred?
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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #99 on: November 11, 2016, 01:04:11 pm »
Yeah I mean it's some of the best games on the system, so I have no clue how someone could consider it a pile of crap unless they have really poor taste. 

Yeah super Mario bros, Metroid, Pacman, Contra and Castlevania.  What horrible games.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #100 on: November 11, 2016, 05:12:29 pm »
Heh.  Started refreshing on amazon at 10 till 5.  At 5 on the dot the buy button came up.  I immediately clicked on it, and "your cart is empty" was the result.  They sold out THAT fast. 

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #101 on: November 11, 2016, 05:26:30 pm »
Heh.  Started refreshing on amazon at 10 till 5.  At 5 on the dot the buy button came up.  I immediately clicked on it, and "your cart is empty" was the result.  They sold out THAT fast.

Yep - can't understand why Nintendo would limit the supply so much - They knew it was going to sell quickly but they couldn't ship more units - will be interesting to see if the restock them before the christmas season or completely blow the chance to make some profit for the company.

I can see them doing this if it was just to build interest for the christmas sales ( figure if they are hard to get for a short time it might mean more interest for xmas) but if they fail to get enough out there by xmas I think they'll lose a lot of the sales they could have made on it as everyone will move to the next thing by then if they can't get these.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #102 on: November 11, 2016, 05:44:50 pm »
Heh, they've had 6 weeks to get the Pokemon Go Plus production up to snuff and can't manage that, either.


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« Reply #103 on: November 11, 2016, 06:48:10 pm »
Heh.  Started refreshing on amazon at 10 till 5.  At 5 on the dot the buy button came up.  I immediately clicked on it, and "your cart is empty" was the result.  They sold out THAT fast.

Yep - can't understand why Nintendo would limit the supply so much - They knew it was going to sell quickly but they couldn't ship more units - will be interesting to see if the restock them before the christmas season or completely blow the chance to make some profit for the company.

I can see them doing this if it was just to build interest for the christmas sales ( figure if they are hard to get for a short time it might mean more interest for xmas) but if they fail to get enough out there by xmas I think they'll lose a lot of the sales they could have made on it as everyone will move to the next thing by then if they can't get these.

They don't limit supply, that is a myth.  Lost sales aren't good for business even if it hypes up the product.  You want your supply to always meet demand.  Somebody is dropping the ball though because their marketing team should have alerted them months ago that there was a lot of interest and they should have been churning them out non-stop for the last few months.  After all, this is just a stop-gap do-dad to keep the company in sales until the switch comes out.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #104 on: November 12, 2016, 02:30:28 pm »
I kind of want one, but I don't exactly need one.

Let's face it, this is really geared toward casual nostalgia gamers.

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« Reply #105 on: November 12, 2016, 03:42:10 pm »
Yeah, I bet unfortunately a majority of the purchasers this weekend are ---uvulas--- looking to flip them for a profit. ---fudgesicle--- that noise.
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« Reply #106 on: November 12, 2016, 04:15:15 pm »
Yeah, I bet unfortunately a majority of the purchasers this weekend are ---uvulas--- looking to flip them for a profit. ---fudgesicle--- that noise.

According to Business insider Nintendo has already said they will be restocking soon and will have a supply of them being delivered to stores through out the holiday season and into next year ! (just hope they do it soon enough that those flippers get stuck with them.


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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #107 on: November 12, 2016, 09:39:08 pm »
I think that this is a cool device...and I kinda want one...but only kinda.

I mean...we can all play these games and more on our TV's anyway...With a little effort we can even use a NES controller. So Is it worth $60 for us, who have the ability anyway? I'm torn with the idea and probably won't buy one until they are $20.

On the flip side of the argument. I bought a Jakks pack-man with 5 games for $15 and like it for its portability and ease of use. Perhaps I will come around.

I do still have a working NES so perhaps that has something to do with it.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #108 on: November 13, 2016, 12:31:42 am »
No Home button on the controllers.  WTF were they thinking?


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« Reply #109 on: November 13, 2016, 09:00:03 am »
No Home button on the controllers.  WTF were they thinking?

They were probably trying to keep it with the retro experience the device was designed to emulate -- figure with the original games you had to go to the console and swap cartridges - so they figured going to the console to switch games would fit right in - besides the controller wire is only 3 ft. long so how far away is the console going to be anyway  :dunno  Any extensions used will probably be for the HDMI hookup to the TV and the console will sit on a table or similar right next to the players.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #110 on: November 13, 2016, 09:11:26 am »
Today's tvs are huge and couches are further away. 3ft cord isn't cutting it. Unless like JDfan said, with the console close by. We are fat and old now and can't be bothered with walking up to the console to switch games. If just can't find my remote to my TV, I'm watching whatever it's on.

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« Reply #111 on: November 13, 2016, 09:31:03 am »
It really is ridiculous how short the cord is. Really dumb move by Nintendo. Can you even find the extension cables in stores right now?

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« Reply #112 on: November 13, 2016, 04:13:13 pm »
You can get extension cables, but they are 10 bucks, so it doubles the cost of the gamepad.  My guess is they had a bunch of nunchuck cables left over.  Ditto for the gamepad... they still had the NES molds in a warehouse somewhere and adding a button would require modifying the molds.  I saw a pic of the inside of the new gamepad and there are unused pins on the chip.  My guess is with a quick comparison to how a classic controller is wired, one could add a home button. 

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« Reply #113 on: November 14, 2016, 11:50:26 am »
I wouldn't be surprised if 8Bitdo is already working on a wireless adapter for the NES Classic.

It's a perfect opportunity for them.
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« Reply #114 on: November 14, 2016, 12:06:10 pm »
I wouldn't be surprised if 8Bitdo is already working on a wireless adapter for the NES Classic.

It's a perfect opportunity for them.

Nyko already released them @ $19.99 but currently out of stock also  :cheers:

(http://nyko.com/products/miniboss-for-nes-classic-edition)


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« Reply #115 on: November 14, 2016, 12:08:02 pm »
....and that is exactly what I would expect from Nyko.
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« Reply #116 on: November 14, 2016, 01:50:32 pm »
Yeah that's got to be one of the worst designs in a gamepad I've ever seen.  Note how the edges of the gamepad are raised and even though it's a rectangle, they put the buttons on a diagonal.

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« Reply #117 on: November 14, 2016, 02:11:45 pm »
Yeah that's got to be one of the worst designs in a gamepad I've ever seen.  Note how the edges of the gamepad are raised and even though it's a rectangle, they put the buttons on a diagonal.
I'm surprised they didn't angle the D-Pad. You know, to make it more comfortable for people's fat thumbs.
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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES NES Classic Edition
« Reply #118 on: November 14, 2016, 11:06:42 pm »
What's it been?  A week?

http://hackaday.com/2016/11/13/linux-on-your-nes-classic-edition/

Yeah it's got serial pads, so as soon as someone figures out the file system I'll write tools like I did with the Wii.  At the very least the inferior Punch-out!! can be replaced with Mike Tyson's Punch-out!!  My guess would be it's difficult to add new games, but swapping out games could be possible. 

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES NES Classic Edition
« Reply #119 on: November 15, 2016, 09:55:17 am »
Well, ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---.  Now I want one.


  
 

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