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Author Topic: Nintendo is bringing back the NES NES Classic Edition  (Read 11636 times)

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #40 on: July 16, 2016, 09:21:30 am »
Maybe a little off topic but what is best option to play nes games through HDMI port?  PC emu or wii u?

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #41 on: July 16, 2016, 01:05:17 pm »
By "best" to you mean cheapest, easiest, or an objectively better experience?

If you already have a pc lying around you just need some 5 dollar usb gamepads and/or nes to usb adaptors and you are good to go, aside from having to download an emulator and a front end. 

The Wii U is easier, but NES games are 5 bucks a pop and they haven't even released as many Wii U virtual console games as they did on the original Wii. 

It should be noted that they sell Wii multi out to hdmi adaptors for as little as 3 dollars on eBay/Aliexpress, so the Wii might be the better option depending upon your situation. 

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #42 on: July 16, 2016, 03:08:39 pm »
By "best" to you mean cheapest, easiest, or an objectively better experience?

If you already have a pc lying around you just need some 5 dollar usb gamepads and/or nes to usb adaptors and you are good to go, aside from having to download an emulator and a front end. 

The Wii U is easier, but NES games are 5 bucks a pop and they haven't even released as many Wii U virtual console games as they did on the original Wii. 

It should be noted that they sell Wii multi out to hdmi adaptors for as little as 3 dollars on eBay/Aliexpress, so the Wii might be the better option depending upon your situation.
Don't forget you can softmod the wii channel the same way as the original  wii. And now put homebrew channel on the wii u menu as well. Haven't tried emulation on them so I can't speak for how good it is.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #43 on: July 16, 2016, 06:29:59 pm »
The emulator used on the wii is a damn fine one.  The problem is these nuts that equate sharp, blocky pixels to being "better" don't like it.  Nintendo decided to put just a hint of blur on the filter to make it look a bit softer.... like it would have back in the day, and some people hate that.  Also, the nes "flicker" caused by having too many sprites on the screen at once is in tact.  Again, this is 100% accurate, but some people don't care for it.  There are homebrew emulators available for both consoles of course that would alleviate these issues. 

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #44 on: July 16, 2016, 07:56:57 pm »
Back on topic, I decided to get myself one of these little guys.  It's at that price where it's totally acceptable to get it just for the sake of getting it.  It's kind of like my pirate carts... they are just fun to have. 

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #45 on: July 16, 2016, 08:19:03 pm »
Back on topic, I decided to get myself one of these little guys.  It's at that price where it's totally acceptable to get it just for the sake of getting it.  It's kind of like my pirate carts... they are just fun to have.
Take that bad boy apart when you get it. Let's see what's under the hood.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #46 on: July 16, 2016, 08:24:45 pm »
Back on topic, I decided to get myself one of these little guys.  It's at that price where it's totally acceptable to get it just for the sake of getting it.  It's kind of like my pirate carts... they are just fun to have.
Where'd you order it?
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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #47 on: July 16, 2016, 10:40:51 pm »
I haven't ordered it yet... afaik it isn't available for pre order yet.  I'll probably get it at gamestop or Walmart ahead of time when it becomes available. 

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #48 on: July 16, 2016, 11:31:59 pm »
PlZ go back to reddit with that "little guy" stuff, but thank you for being the sacrificial wallet.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #49 on: July 18, 2016, 06:26:31 am »
Can't wait to plug a KADE miniConsole+ on this thing and being able to not only using original NES pads with it plus original SNES pads too!  ::)

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #50 on: July 18, 2016, 09:42:17 am »
Conversely, it'd also be nice if we could cut the plug off them and use them on real hardware, or convert to USB.  I've yet to use an NES repro controller I thought was worth a damn.




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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES — only a little smaller
« Reply #51 on: July 18, 2016, 10:27:11 am »
I've yet to use an NES repro controller I thought was worth a damn.

You're welcome.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #52 on: July 18, 2016, 11:51:10 am »
For the record, that's not a nes repro gamepad.  That's a bastardization hybrid between a nes and snes gamepad.  Two buttons or GTFO!

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #53 on: July 18, 2016, 12:05:27 pm »
The price of that exceeds my interest in the endeavor.  With some scrubbing and a light sand papering of the contacts, I got my dog bone back to acceptable performance. 




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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #54 on: July 18, 2016, 12:11:11 pm »
That's a bastardization hybrid between a nes and snes gamepad.

You say that like it's a bad thing?  ;)

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #55 on: July 18, 2016, 12:12:59 pm »
dog bone

Worst NES pad ever made. Never understood the appeal of it. Button angle is so wrong.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #56 on: July 18, 2016, 03:51:45 pm »
That's a bastardization hybrid between a nes and snes gamepad.

You say that like it's a bad thing?  ;)

That's because it is.  It has the horrible ergonomics of the nes pad, only now with more buttons at odd angles.  If you are going to add that many buttons, it just makes more sense to go with a snes design, which I believe they also sell. 

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #57 on: July 18, 2016, 03:53:57 pm »
The price of that exceeds my interest in the endeavor.  With some scrubbing and a light sand papering of the contacts, I got my dog bone back to acceptable performance.

I saw a tip on this one guy's site that cleans/repairs old consoles to resell.  If you take the rubber contacts and rub them on typing paper until they stop leaving marks it does a remarkable job.  Unlike sanding, you don't have the risk of wearing down the contacts. 

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #58 on: July 18, 2016, 04:02:17 pm »
I'm sure that works but you're effectively sanding the contacts.....

Anyway, I like the dog bone.  Hurts my hands less.


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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #59 on: July 18, 2016, 04:48:58 pm »
I used my wife's nail file once to clean contacts on a game

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #60 on: July 18, 2016, 09:50:10 pm »
I'm sure that works but you're effectively sanding the contacts.....

Anyway, I like the dog bone.  Hurts my hands less.

Yes an extremely fine "sandpaper."  Finer than what you are going to be able to buy and therefore it's a better solution as it's less damaging to the pads.  I've used the technique on all of my old gamepads and it works great. 

I have no issues with the dog bone, but I've never had the nes pad hurt my hands either.  I think some of you guys must hold your gamepad in a death grip or something. 

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #61 on: July 21, 2016, 01:55:09 pm »
Nintendo just released this video promoting the NES Classic Edition:


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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #62 on: July 21, 2016, 03:15:12 pm »
Awesome!  Too bad they ruined all the retro goodness with the modern music in the vid.  Also -10 for not getting the scary transformers narrator to do the tag line, but since I'm pretty sure he's dead I'll reduce that to a -5  (I could have done it. ;) )

I wished they would have shown a bit more in terms of the interface though... I'm not sure if that one bit was how the menu is going to look or what.  I've just got a feeling that it's going to be fairly trivial to solder something on and add games to this.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #63 on: July 21, 2016, 03:18:00 pm »
I've just got a feeling that it's going to be fairly trivial to solder something on and add games to this.

Here's hoping

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #64 on: July 21, 2016, 03:22:58 pm »
Tangential but not off topic - anybody ever try/have one of those AtGames Sega boxes that played 80 something different games, had wireless controllers, and played carts?  They're going for $60 but I read the sound was garbage.   

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« Reply #65 on: July 21, 2016, 03:54:59 pm »
Yeah I've got one.  They aren't all that great, but at the same time they aren't nearly as terrible as sega purists make them out to be.  The sound is different, but not horrible.  The model with the wireless gamepads is garbage as they are using IR to transmit the data (like your tv remote) so they don't work unless you are pointing the gamepad right at the unit.  Also flash carts and oddball "special" carts won't run on it.  That being said, you get 40 decent games (not 80... 40 of them are homebrew junk) for 30 bucks which isn't a bad deal. 

The thing is... no rgb out, so it isn't going to look that great on a modern tv.  Heck you don't even get stereo sound.  These things retail for around 30 bucks and a real genesis can be had for the same price.  So get a genesis, spend an extra 40 or so and get a flash cart for it. 

It's exactly the same deal with the atgames Atari and other similar units.  They are ok, but generally not up to the standards that us gaming nuts expect. 

The reason people are flipping over the NES mini is the hdmi out.  Since it takes costly, extreme, modifications to get rgb out of a nes this is a big deal. 

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #66 on: July 21, 2016, 04:37:03 pm »
I didn't see any scanlines!!! WTF??

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #67 on: July 21, 2016, 07:04:01 pm »
So get a genesis, spend an extra 40 or so and get a flash cart for it. 

Where are you shopping?  I'm seeing $80 and up for these things.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #68 on: July 21, 2016, 08:41:56 pm »
So get a genesis, spend an extra 40 or so and get a flash cart for it. 

Where are you shopping?  I'm seeing $80 and up for these things.
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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #69 on: July 21, 2016, 09:21:11 pm »
Yeah I've lived with my everdrive clone for a few months now... works great and I paid I think 42 bucks on amazon.com for it.  I liked it so much that I ordered another from the same seller for the n64.  It was a tad bit pricier but still not horrible.

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« Reply #70 on: July 22, 2016, 10:28:00 am »
Any type of menu on those things or is it just lists of ROM titles....


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« Reply #71 on: July 22, 2016, 12:04:37 pm »
It's just a list of files unfortunately.  I wanted to try and write/hack something a little better, but Krizz put some sort of bootleg check on the menu so I don't think I can update the OS safely. 

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« Reply #72 on: September 09, 2016, 08:30:44 pm »
I think for the novelty I'd pick this up for sure!
In Canada I think it will retail for $80 + 13% sales tax.

As said on here I probably have a dozen or so ways (systems, pc's, etc) that can emulate the NES.... but I still want it !
I just think it's neat.

However (also as mentioned here) I really like these SD Card Cart's. Such a cool way to use the original hardware.
I wanted to get one for my Genesis, but since it was the @Games version I did not.

The N64 one is the one I really want.

EDIT - I wonder if this would be available @ Bed Bath And Beyond. That is where I got the @Games stuff in the past.
It's good because they always have 20% off coupons.

Is it just me, or when word of this Mini NES was released was it not said to have 40 games ?
I could have sworn that is what I was told (or read). I thought I even saw a gameslist as such.

EDIT 2 - Do you guys think a SNES or N64 version would ever follow ?

« Last Edit: September 09, 2016, 08:37:42 pm by mike boss »

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #73 on: September 10, 2016, 12:58:17 am »
I think Nintendo is doing some very un Nintendo moves presently because the holiday season is coming up, the new Zelda isn't ready yet, and the NX won't be out until spring.  This little do-dad prints money for them so if we get another soley depends upon if they feel they need the added cash.  I could maybe see a snes, but a n64 is unlikely.  Just a gut feeling.

It's possible at one point the system was supposed to have more games.  Konami seems to have really offered up some strange choices, so my guess is those negotiations were tough. 

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« Reply #74 on: September 10, 2016, 07:16:31 pm »
A snes one would be cool. Not really interested in the Nes one, but I will probably eventually own one. I just hope the controls are better than the original nes. Let's face it, they weren't that great. And I'm talking about the actual button pressing not the shape.

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« Reply #75 on: September 12, 2016, 01:08:42 pm »
A snes one would be cool. Not really interested in the Nes one, but I will probably eventually own one. I just hope the controls are better than the original nes. Let's face it, they weren't that great. And I'm talking about the actual button pressing not the shape.
I take that back about the Nes controller. I just cleaned up the board with some fine sandpaper this morning and it works great now. I guess I was just use to worn controllers.

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« Reply #76 on: September 12, 2016, 01:13:12 pm »
I was going to say... it's the granddaddy of all modern controllers.  Mine was beat to death and it still worked pretty great.  Of course anytime I say anything positive about Nintendo somebody accuses me of being a fanboy. 

I just ordered a playstation.  That's got to count for something right?

On that note there are some very interesting methods to play backups on the original psx, so once it comes in Maybe I can try some of them out and add it to the sd card thread.  I'm not buying a psio though. ;)

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« Reply #77 on: September 12, 2016, 03:00:29 pm »
I was going to say... it's the granddaddy of all modern controllers.  Mine was beat to death and it still worked pretty great.  Of course anytime I say anything positive about Nintendo somebody accuses me of being a fanboy. 

I just ordered a playstation.  That's got to count for something right?

On that note there are some very interesting methods to play backups on the original psx, so once it comes in Maybe I can try some of them out and add it to the sd card thread.  I'm not buying a psio though. ;)
You could try this out:http://www.shopncsx.com/goldfinger.aspx

I found one for 10 bucks a while back but can't remember what website it was.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the NES only a little smaller
« Reply #78 on: September 12, 2016, 03:19:53 pm »
Sandpaper fixed my NES controllers right up.  Have had a hell of a time with my $12 multicart.

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« Reply #79 on: September 13, 2016, 12:44:18 pm »
I was going to say... it's the granddaddy of all modern controllers.  Mine was beat to death and it still worked pretty great.  Of course anytime I say anything positive about Nintendo somebody accuses me of being a fanboy. 

I just ordered a playstation.  That's got to count for something right?

On that note there are some very interesting methods to play backups on the original psx, so once it comes in Maybe I can try some of them out and add it to the sd card thread.  I'm not buying a psio though. ;)
You could try this out:http://www.shopncsx.com/goldfinger.aspx

I found one for 10 bucks a while back but can't remember what website it was.

Yeah there is a technique now where you take a cheat device and re-flash the firmware with a version called unirom.  Once flashed you no longer have to swap discs as the gameshark no longer requires a boot disc. 

There are some other methods as well and they become increasingly exotic.  It amazes me the lengths people go to on this.

I might try to make my own flash cart if I ever get the time and energy.  Some of these cheat devices were billed as dev kits.  If that is indeed true then there must have been a way to play games via streaming on the parallel port.  Replace the pc with an avr and you are already half there. 

  
 

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