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Pocket hole jig
Tilzs:
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--- Quote from: JackTucky on February 10, 2004, 04:08:27 pm ---All of the woodworking guys on DIY say biscuits add strength. I believe the TV when it talks to me.
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This is an interesting debate but how many of you guys here even have a plate joiner or have at least used one.
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I do. It makes things plenty strong
ErikRuud:
I have a DeWalt plate joiner. I have used it for many things, the latest was a cbinet designed to hold DVD's and a 55 gallon fish tank. I only used biscuits and glue to hold it together. So far it has not collapsed from the weight.
Using biscuits does not guarantee that your pieces will be aligned. Especially along the length of the joint.
NY_in_TX:
--- Quote from: ErikRuud on February 11, 2004, 12:17:09 pm ---I have a DeWalt plate joiner. I have used it for many things, the latest was a cbinet designed to hold DVD's and a 55 gallon fish tank. I only used biscuits and glue to hold it together. So far it has not collapsed from the weight.
Using biscuits does not guarantee that your pieces will be aligned. Especially along the length of the joint.
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wow! with the water alone it's like 450 pounds! that's pretty strong. The thickness and type of wood has a lot to do with it too. Plus the design, I wouldn't design anything with butt joints bearing any load.
basically each joinery style has their place. I always watched the New ankee workshop and tried to figure out when he used certain joints and fasteners. Basically I think it's what you feel like doing or have the equipment to do. I'd get real let down when he would just screw something together, but when it comes down to it and you've dovetailed, biscuit jointed, or other fancy jointed something all day...it's nice to say screw it and screw it :)
btw coolest joint is the hidden dovetail. :P we should get norm to make a MAME cab.
ny
ErikRuud:
The bulk of the cabinet is made from 3/4" oak plywood. The face frame is made from solid red oak. The top is supported by the back and two sides, so the weight transfer goes to the floor. There is also a pair of 3" wide ribs the runs the length of the top that support the center and front edge of the top. It has been six months and there isn't even the slightest sine of sagging in the top.
Rod1968:
I worked for one of the largest unfinished furniture
factorys in th U.S. for almost 7 years and still do
some funiture building on the side as a hobby
and we only used pocket hole joints and never
biscuits. The reason we used pocket holes is because
they are strong fast and cheap "equipment and labor
wise". Truth be told biscuit joints are ten times stonger
the reason being is because both of theses joint are butt
joints and the strength of the joint
comes from the glue and most pocket hole jointery does
not use glue and even if you did use glue on the joint
is simply does not have the same amount of surface area
for the glue. With that being said would I say not to use
pocket holes "ABSOLUTLY NOT" Pocket holes are
great and I use them all the time. Would I spend
a 100 bucks on a Cheap Plastic/Alum jig "HELL NO"