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| Nannuu:
--- Quote from: PedroSilva on February 08, 2004, 08:02:54 am --- --- Quote from: Nannuu on January 18, 2004, 11:57:18 pm ---I just bought the whole Kreg setup before Christmas at a woodworking show and it is incredible!!! It is also rated the top pocket hole jig made. Here is a pic of the monitor frame I put together for one of the Minis I'm building. I've used the jig all over the cabinet so far with fantastic results. --- End quote --- It looks fine, but ... shouldn't that be done on the inside, to have no holes showing ? --- End quote --- Since it sets inside the cabinet it doesn't need to. Just easier for me :). The monitor casing will attach to runners inside so that it can be taken out if needed (although unlikely). Honestly I didn't need to use the jig for this but it's fast, easy and strong so I did. |
| PedroSilva:
--- Quote from: Nannuu on February 08, 2004, 12:08:06 pm --- --- Quote from: PedroSilva on February 08, 2004, 08:02:54 am --- --- Quote from: Nannuu on January 18, 2004, 11:57:18 pm ---I just bought the whole Kreg setup before Christmas at a woodworking show and it is incredible!!! It is also rated the top pocket hole jig made. Here is a pic of the monitor frame I put together for one of the Minis I'm building. I've used the jig all over the cabinet so far with fantastic results. --- End quote --- It looks fine, but ... shouldn't that be done on the inside, to have no holes showing ? --- End quote --- Since it sets inside the cabinet it doesn't need to. Just easier for me :). The monitor casing will attach to runners inside so that it can be taken out if needed (although unlikely). Honestly I didn't need to use the jig for this but it's fast, easy and strong so I did. --- End quote --- That explains it ;D |
| eightbit:
--- Quote from: Tilzs on January 20, 2004, 11:57:23 am ---Biscuits not adding strength to a joint is a false statement. The biscuit adds a lot of surface area for the glue to hold to and they expand when glue is applied makeing for very strong joints. --- End quote --- A board joined with biscuits adds only slightly to the strength of the joint. There primary use is to aid in aligning the boards for assembly. Yes they expand and lock in but the actual amount of wood spanning the joint is thin. |
| Tonz:
You seem to be missing the point here. The strength of any end on joint in fact really comes from the glue used whether it is fixed with biscuits or screws. Both methods have their uses and both are equally strong in the fixing direction. Neither will provide much lateral strength on their own. The important point is to have the joint well compressed while the glue is drying either with clamps or using the screws to apply compression strength on the joint. The monitor casing above is a fine example where clamping would be difficult and screwing is probably the best method. Fixing the bottom to an arcade side which is over 2m (6+ ft) tall calls for long clamps which few people have so again screwing is the way to go. But if you want to make a table top or side of a unit constructed from glued boards the only real way to join them is to glue and dowel or biscuit joint them. Biscuits joints are great for alignment and provided they are properly glued and clamped provide a very strong joint. I use them extensively in my woodwork projects and will vouch they are just as strong as any screwed joint. |
| eightbit:
--- Quote from: Tonz on February 09, 2004, 05:51:47 pm ---You seem to be missing the point here. The strength of any end on joint in fact really comes from the glue used whether it is fixed with biscuits or screws. Both methods have their uses and both are equally strong in the fixing direction. Neither will provide much lateral strength on their own. The important point is to have the joint well compressed while the glue is drying either with clamps or using the screws to apply compression strength on the joint. The monitor casing above is a fine example where clamping would be difficult and screwing is probably the best method. Fixing the bottom to an arcade side which is over 2m (6+ ft) tall calls for long clamps which few people have so again screwing is the way to go. But if you want to make a table top or side of a unit constructed from glued boards the only real way to join them is to glue and dowel or biscuit joint them. Biscuits joints are great for alignment and provided they are properly glued and clamped provide a very strong joint. I use them extensively in my woodwork projects and will vouch they are just as strong as any screwed joint. --- End quote --- I am not the one missing the point. It is the glue that makes the joint strong I never disputed that. I simply asserted the primary use for biscuits is for alignment not for strength. A screw is a mechanical fastener and if you used properly will give a very strong joint. A properly assembled and glued joint can be much stronger but it depends on how your jointing. The primary use for a plate joiner is for saving time assembling complicated joints. |
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