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Author Topic: Gingerballs, backglass and DOF feedback! now with new guts!  (Read 18776 times)

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Ok time to build the worlds LARGEST PINBALL MACHINE!







Just kidding, thats just a piece of plywood in the shop that happened to be in the shape of a pinball cab.
To note: This is a "BETA" build. Im putting this together so I can get exact plans and measurements for Haruman to cut me one out of melamine with a CNC.
This cab probably wont turn out super nice but it'll be a GREAT proof of concept.


So here is my rough "looks like a 4th grader drew em" sketch:

(those are interior dimensions BTW, example width says 13" but with the 2 1/2" sides its 14" wide)

Build the box with a $6 piece of pine:


Finish it up, and put in the trunk to take back to my house:


Start breaking down the computer/case and cutting ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- up with tin snips and a dremel:


test fitting components:


Customize the power supply:

Drilled 2 holes, ran wires through, taped the wires in a few layers of electrical tape, put a bunch of layers of tape on the side I cut

Drillin holes n stuffs:


Moar holes:




Things I spent money on:
Power Supply: $88 (Had to replace the old 250W and get a real one to push a real video card)
IPAC2:             $48 (Existing IPAC2 was borked)
Wood:             $6
Plexi Glass:      $10
Solenoids:       $35
SainSmart:      $23
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TOTAL:            $210


Value of things I didnt spend any money on:
Computer :        $200
SSD:                    $60
VideoCard:          $50
BG LCD Screen:   $25
PF LCD Screen:  $125
Buttons:             $10
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TOTAL:                $470

This is only here to give someone wanting to build one a better idea of over all costs (about $680 give or take)
« Last Edit: October 03, 2016, 12:55:44 pm by Malenko »
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Re: RedHead KingPinball aka Gingerballs
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2016, 09:42:16 am »
The pine splintered A LOT, so time to break out the bondo and get this cab smooooooth like peanut butter:



Then sand it:



3rd round of bonbo/sanding!



2nd of 4 primer coats:




This is definitely going to be a learn as I go project. Im really happy how the sides turned out, you cant tell there the pine is on top of plywood!
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Re: RedHead KingPinball aka Gingerballs
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2016, 01:01:11 pm »
awesome bro, i'm starting one myself, we can f stuff up together.

I like melamine mdf core myself, any reason why you aren't going ply?
   

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Re: RedHead KingPinball aka Gingerballs
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2016, 01:10:48 pm »
awesome bro, i'm starting one myself, we can f stuff up together.

I like melamine mdf core myself, any reason why you aren't going ply?

Cant wait to F stuff up!

This is basically being built out of scrap pieces of wood, generally a proof of concept template basis for a CNC design. I get to put some color on the thing tonight, Im kind of excited
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Re: RedHead KingPinball aka Gingerballs
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2016, 02:43:28 pm »
Is the final product going to be real machine dimensions, or you keeping it baby sized?


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Re: RedHead KingPinball aka Gingerballs
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2016, 03:48:44 pm »
Is the final product going to be real machine dimensions, or you keeping it baby sized?

funsized. I could just measure my existing pins and get home measurements if he wants to make a real sized kit to sell but shipping alone makes that cost prohibitive for me.
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Re: RedHead KingPinball aka Gingerballs
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2016, 04:05:53 pm »
Love the name! (coming from a Ginger here)

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Re: RedHead KingPinball aka Gingerballs
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2016, 08:41:35 am »
I too am a Ginger  ;D


Taped off the sides for paint:



First of 3 layers of rattle can black:


And yeah, I know the rear vent holes are completely ---fouled up beyond all recognition--- up, but they are functional, and you cant see them anyway.

Masking removed:


With this paint job I almost want to call it HarleyPin:



And my rough/ugly intake fan cut out:

Thats also a good shot of where my doggies hang out when I play pinball.
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Re: RedHead KingPinball aka Gingerballs
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2016, 04:19:56 pm »
I too am a Ginger  ;D

This is probably ignorant to say, but because of your screen name, I always envisioned you looked like the wrestler Dean Malenko.... :laugh2:

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Re: RedHead KingPinball aka Gingerballs
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2016, 06:22:51 pm »
This is probably ignorant to say, but because of your screen name, I always envisioned you looked like the wrestler Dean Malenko.... :laugh2:

HAHA. I dont look like Dean Malenko, but thats where the screen name came from. I used to go by LLiNRAC , which was just my last name backwards.
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Re: RedHead KingPinball aka Gingerballs
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2016, 06:50:41 pm »
AWWWWWWW YEEEESSSSSSSSS! Been waiting on a kit for one of these. Great start!  :cheers:

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Re: RedHead KingPinball aka Gingerballs
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2016, 08:12:24 pm »
This looks great man!

I've always wanted a virtual pin (or real one, but man, space is at a huge premium where I live).

Following this with interest!

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Re: RedHead KingPinball aka Gingerballs
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2016, 08:56:14 pm »
Well I have 2 real pins but jeeeeeez is that an expensive hobby!



So I have all the buttons installed. Originally I was going to use leafs for the flippers and nudge but the leafs I have are for metal panels. Maybe I'll get microleafs for the final cab.


Squeezed everything in, but I need to improve wire management.


Totally shocked it all fit and still had room for the screen. I will be adding another fan for the CPU


Setting up the drives...


Pinball FX2 running:
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Re: RedHead KingPinball aka Gingerballs
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2016, 07:24:25 am »
It is very expensive.

What size screen is that?  24"?

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Re: RedHead KingPinball aka Gingerballs
« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2016, 11:54:54 pm »
Wow that's sweet man.  I didn't know they could be made so compact!  I can't wait to see it finished.

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Re: RedHead KingPinball aka Gingerballs
« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2016, 07:36:55 pm »
It is very expensive.

What size screen is that?  24"?

Its was a 23"  but I snagged the ribbon cable and ripped it so that monitor is in the trash. I replaced it with a 21" ASUS that has much better viewing angles, so not a total loss. There is a small gap to the left and right of the monitor but its not too terrible.

I also removed the coin button , and put a regular white button there and put a P1 start button for start.

Installed the side rails:


Dat Archer table:


Its a SUPER tight fit:


I removed the fan from the back, and put it next to the CPU heat sink. Air still flows out the back but now the CPU temps are much better.
I think I am going to make a back box for this, cuts down on "portability" but I think its worth having.

Still need to set up FuturePinball and all that jazz., I also need to cut the last piece of aluminum L for the front and find a way to make the corners a little more comfortable to rest your hands on, but its totally playable and my wife thinks it kinda great.
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Re: RedHead KingPinball aka Gingerballs
« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2016, 08:28:20 pm »
For 10+ years I thought you were a Juggalo and I was just too scared at the thought to mention it.

I'm not sure if finding out it was inspired by a wrestler is better or worse.

May have to shut off BYOAC for awhile....

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Re: RedHead KingPinball aka Gingerballs
« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2016, 08:33:14 pm »
For 10+ years I thought you were a Juggalo and I was just too scared at the thought to mention it.

I'm not sure if finding out it was inspired by a wrestler is better or worse.

May have to shut off BYOAC for awhile....

 :dizzy:

Milenko is ICP , Inspired by a wrestler is better. Much better. Sadly both of those dickbags wrestled in WCW for a while. They were/are terrible.
If you shut off BYOAC, try not to delete all your posts this time.  :cheers:
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Re: RedHead KingPinball aka Gingerballs
« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2016, 08:37:40 pm »
Saint took away that ability.  My posts now scar you for life.

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Re: RedHead KingPinball aka Gingerballs
« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2016, 09:48:22 pm »
I don't want Jim to go,  I want him at ZapCon next year.

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Re: RedHead KingPinball aka Gingerballs
« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2016, 09:52:33 pm »
Great work Bro, but mine is bigger than yours is  >:D

   

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« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2016, 09:53:49 pm »
I don't want Jim to go,  I want him at ZapCon next year.

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« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2016, 09:54:44 pm »
I don't want Jim to go,  I want him at ZapCon next year.

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« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2016, 09:55:48 pm »
Im gonna make an honest effort to come next year bro.
   

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« Reply #24 on: June 12, 2016, 09:57:02 pm »
Im gonna make an honest effort to come next year bro.


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« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2016, 10:01:09 pm »
   

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« Reply #26 on: June 13, 2016, 09:39:37 am »
Im gonna make an honest effort to come next year bro.

Oh snap!

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« Reply #27 on: June 13, 2016, 09:55:36 am »
Im gonna make an honest effort to come next year bro.

Oh snap!
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Re: RedHead KingPinball aka Gingerballs
« Reply #28 on: June 15, 2016, 05:07:38 am »
Now I'm in the mood to build a Bartop mini pin. What did you use for the side rails? Is that aluminum?

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« Reply #29 on: June 15, 2016, 09:51:00 am »
Now I'm in the mood to build a Bartop mini pin. What did you use for the side rails? Is that aluminum?

3/4" x 3/4" Aluminum L bracket, cut to length.  total cost, like 6 bucks.
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« Reply #30 on: June 15, 2016, 08:19:45 pm »
I really like the size of this cab. It's a table-top pin right?

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Re: RedHead KingPinball aka Gingerballs
« Reply #31 on: June 20, 2016, 01:14:53 pm »
Neat project!


Just curious, if that box is a basic sizing prototype, why all the finish work on it?

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Re: RedHead KingPinball aka Gingerballs
« Reply #32 on: June 20, 2016, 01:36:09 pm »
I am really liking this project. Does the Geforce 450 seem to be keeping up with everything okay?

I really want to see more of that rablack97 vpin. Do you have a project started?
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Re: RedHead KingPinball aka Gingerballs
« Reply #33 on: June 20, 2016, 03:36:55 pm »
I really like the size of this cab. It's a table-top pin right?
Yesh, designed to sit on a table not have super long legs to the floor.

Neat project!


Just curious, if that box is a basic sizing prototype, why all the finish work on it?
What finish work? The finish might look OK in the pictures but it leaves a lot to be desired in the really real world.
Just because its a proof of concept doesn't meant it has to look like a turd wrapped in burnt hair though. :)

I am really liking this project. Does the Geforce 450 seem to be keeping up with everything okay?
All I have set up on it right now is Pinball FX2 and it runs everything smooth like butter. I am starting the back box display prototype part then I'll start trying to get FuturePinball and the like running.
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Re: RedHead KingPinball aka Gingerballs
« Reply #34 on: June 23, 2016, 10:22:25 am »
I am curious... Does Pinball FX 2 plays well with an FE? Since a tabletop pinball is one project I wanted to tackle eventually,  I was wondering if there was any way to launch individual tables and make uses of secondary screen with it... I haven't toyed with it yet, just been playing it on my Surface, which is far from optimal...

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« Reply #35 on: June 23, 2016, 10:25:56 am »
pinballx works fine with pinball fx2, its the front end I'll be using.
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« Reply #36 on: June 23, 2016, 10:40:33 am »
Thanks, just found a tutorial doing exactly that with PinballX. :cheers:
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Re: RedHead KingPinball aka Gingerballs
« Reply #37 on: June 23, 2016, 10:47:47 pm »
Hey Malenko. If you haven't bought all the Pinball FX2 tables yet, they're currently on sale on the Steam store. Most are 60%-80% off  8)

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« Reply #38 on: June 24, 2016, 05:59:36 am »
Thanks for the heads up Speed Racer. I just purchased a few tables.

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« Reply #39 on: June 24, 2016, 08:49:16 am »
Thanks, I owned almost everything already but I picked up MsPloosion, South Park, Portal, Plants V Zombies, and Fantastic 4 for a total of $5.67
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