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| yotsuya:
--- Quote from: pbj on April 22, 2016, 06:41:05 pm ---Does it play Castlevania 3 100%? --- End quote --- |
| knave:
--- Quote from: ark_ader on April 22, 2016, 04:21:53 pm ---Nvidia 980m There is a real problem. --- End quote --- LOL, A problem with high framerates! But it will never play Castlevania 3. Or probably half of my steam library... ...there just isn't time. jokes aside. I play enough games on an old dell latitude with intel graphics. The 980m is way overkill for my needs...but will be really nice to run just about everything on high for a few years. I probably could have waited another year with my old dell from 2009 but I just wanted something new...besides I'm tired of playing on low settings. Go big or go home right. I'm getting pretty excited. |
| Ond:
--- Quote from: dkersten on April 20, 2016, 03:15:44 pm ---The only argument for upgrading graphics cards today is to move to 4k, and I could go on for days about why that is not only a bad idea but adds nothing to gaming. I am sure some people would argue it, and more power to them. I can't see the difference between 1080p and 2160p on a 10 foot screen, so why would I notice it on 27 inches (let alone 17)? --- End quote --- I read this and had a chuckle to myself. I run a GTX 970 with a 28" Acer XB280HK 4K monitor, primarily for graphics design work, the gaming monitor was relatively cheap compared to high end graphics design monitors but its chalk and cheese compared to my old Samsung 1920 x 1080 monitor. Fallout 4 looks beautiful on it ,no visible pixels. I'll never use this setup for MAME ::) mind you. One of the really nice things about a 4K screen is being able to read eMagazines on it, letters are sharp, crisp and print like on it. Digital artwork is the real reason though, coupled with a Wacom tablet - really nice. Sorry to diverge from the whole laptop vs PC thing, I have a work provided Lenovo I7 touchscreen lappy, I never use it for anything except work, the touchscreen drove me nutz until I figured out how to disable it. Maybe my perspective on laptops is skewed because I have to carry the damn thing around all the time :-\ |
| dkersten:
--- Quote from: Ond on April 24, 2016, 07:16:51 pm --- --- Quote from: dkersten on April 20, 2016, 03:15:44 pm ---The only argument for upgrading graphics cards today is to move to 4k, and I could go on for days about why that is not only a bad idea but adds nothing to gaming. I am sure some people would argue it, and more power to them. I can't see the difference between 1080p and 2160p on a 10 foot screen, so why would I notice it on 27 inches (let alone 17)? --- End quote --- I read this and had a chuckle to myself. I run a GTX 970 with a 28" Acer XB280HK 4K monitor, primarily for graphics design work, the gaming monitor was relatively cheap compared to high end graphics design monitors but its chalk and cheese compared to my old Samsung 1920 x 1080 monitor. Fallout 4 looks beautiful on it ,no visible pixels. I'll never use this setup for MAME ::) mind you. One of the really nice things about a 4K screen is being able to read eMagazines on it, letters are sharp, crisp and print like on it. Digital artwork is the real reason though, coupled with a Wacom tablet - really nice. --- End quote --- For text: If the OS could scale 100% of the time then I would go 4k, but even Windows 10 sucks balls when it comes to scaling, and I simply can't read 72dpi text on a 160dpi screen. That is the equivalent of scaling 12pt text down to about 5pt text. Unless the OS can scale it back up to 160dpi, which it can in SOME cases but not all, I will stick to 1600x900, which is still a sharp resolution (from 2.5 feet back) yet means I can turn off any scaling in the OS and still have text large enough for me to see. I spend most of my time lately writing php and staring at lines of code for hours on end, and when I try sharper resolutions I get severe eye strain because the text is always smaller. If I scale up, it works sometimes but then I open some other program and the text is so small I can't see it. For everything else: I base quality on the ability to display a diagonal line without aliasing. I have found that every time I see aliasing, even on a 10 ft screen at 1080, it is the source, not the resolution, that is at fault. 1080 is perfectly capable of displaying a line or edge at any angle and not showing aliasing when sitting at the proper distance from the screen. (yes, if you put your head 6 inches off a 27" screen you can see the jaggies, but who does that?) My point about the 980 not being able to run 4k has to do with futureproofing. Right now just about any game can be played with a 980m (gtx970 chip) and still stay above 30 frames per second even at 4k, maybe not at max settings, but reasonably well. In the next few years it could get to the point where a card like that couldn't run games at 4k even at lowest settings. But at 1080, I have no doubt at all that any game could be run by that chip now or in the next few years at max settings and stay above 30 fps. Unless you are wanting to do 4k gaming, you don't need more than the 980m now or for several years. And since I personally see zero value in 4k gaming over 1080 with higher quality settings, to me there is no point. But some people insist they can see it is clearly better, and for them I say go for it.. get those dual titans so you can crank up to 16x aa and 4k and max everything and still always be above 30fps. I will be happily gaming with buttery smooth and perfectly crisp and clean lines on my 1080 g-sync with 1/5th the cost in my graphics card. |
| knave:
Other than the wow and cool factor, I am not interested in anything 4k. Which is why I'm really happy that this laptop has the 1080p display. I have no doubt the 4k screens look great but the thing is going to sit on my lap 99% of the time. And if I want to hook it up to my TVs...they are 1080p as well. Iy just makes sense to me. Perhaps in another 7 years 4k will appeal to me. I threw together a few desktop builds and without a monitor, peripherals... I could spec out a comparable or better system for the $1200. Add in a dell 24 inch monitor, gaming keyboard and a few other things and it jumped up a few hundred $. You always pay for portability. I built a nice budget gaming desktop two years ago for ~$300 but I never turn it on. I have been playing games that will run on my laptop even though Steam streaming works fine...its just a hassle. I am a bit curious about the bundled wireless controller...Do Alienware PC's have a built in receiver for wireless 360 controllers? I happen to have one, but what is the thought with that. Hmmm? I might have to chat with dell about that when the system arrives. (wed...can't wait.) I forgot that I was supposed to ask for free 2 day shipping. oh well. |
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