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Re: Yet Another Donkey Kong Scratch Build
« Reply #80 on: May 02, 2016, 05:17:20 pm »
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Re: Yet Another Donkey Kong Scratch Build
« Reply #81 on: May 02, 2016, 06:02:14 pm »


If you post your pics there, they are hosted on the BYOAC server, which guarantees that they will always be there.

That's assuming BYOAC is available. >:-)
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Re: Yet Another Donkey Kong Scratch Build
« Reply #82 on: May 06, 2016, 01:19:25 pm »
Nice work!  Now you've got me pondering what I should do with my Nintendo cab.  I've already bought the paint for Radarscope Red.  But I'm REALLY considering the gloss red.  Hmm.

Eager to see the rest.  Get going on those stickers!   :applaud:

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Re: Yet Another Donkey Kong Scratch Build
« Reply #83 on: May 06, 2016, 11:57:46 pm »
Nice work!  Now you've got me pondering what I should do with my Nintendo cab.  I've already bought the paint for Radarscope Red.  But I'm REALLY considering the gloss red.  Hmm.

Eager to see the rest.  Get going on those stickers!   :applaud:

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That's easy! I would go with a smooth Radarscope red laminate. :)

I'm planning to do the following this weekend:
1. Wheels
2. Speaker Holes
3. Stickers (I'm looking for original placement of DK instruction sticker on bezel)
4. Cleanup and install joystick.
5. Install monitor

If anything I want to at least get 1 through 3 done.



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Re: Yet Another Donkey Kong Scratch Build
« Reply #84 on: May 07, 2016, 12:05:12 am »
Here's some pics from last weekend.

I built the base using the cedar 2x4s that I had bought for the bezel. I used a compound mitre saw for the cuts. I used oil based black paint.


I bought the t-molding from https://www.t-molding.com/. Note that 20ft is not enough for control panel as well. See last pic.


I cut notches out of the spine for some of the curves. It wouldn't stay in otherwise.


Here you can see I ran out of t-molding because of the amount needed for control panel and small strip for testing. So both sides have this same amount of missing t-molding.

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Re: Yet Another Donkey Kong Scratch Build
« Reply #85 on: May 07, 2016, 12:15:21 am »
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I couldn't (quickly) figure out how to insert images in the middle of the thread that I was also attaching at the same time.
There's a stickied thread here for posting images.

Post your images there and link to them (not the thumbnails  :lol) using the  icon to insert the IMG tags in your post.

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Sounds good. I was assuming that imgur.com would be around longer than anything else since huge sites like reddit depend on that being up. However, I'll upload the original hi-res pics.

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Re: Yet Another Donkey Kong Scratch Build
« Reply #86 on: May 08, 2016, 02:05:30 pm »
I bought some wheels from Home Depot that were exactly 3.5" high which works perfectly.

Marked the holes for where the wheels are going.


Wheels are installed.


The height is good!


Now its much easier moving the cab around the garage. I should have done this much sooner!

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Re: Yet Another Donkey Kong Scratch Build
« Reply #87 on: May 08, 2016, 02:13:06 pm »
I had bought some VS joysticks on ebay. I needed to clean one of these up. I sort of followed Nerdtendo's guide except I didn't have the polish he used.

I bought sandpaper.


Here's the joystick I'm cleaning. Its in really bad shape.



I attached it to a drill and here's the result after 400 grit sandpaper.


Here's the result after 1500 grit. Starting to get worried about the anisotropic reflections.


I used this rubbing compound for treating scratches on cars. I figured this would work.


And it worked awesome!


I bought new parts from mikesarcade.com. I cleaned the rust off the joystick base and cleaned out the ball. Its going to be hiding under the control panel. So not too picky here.

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Re: Yet Another Donkey Kong Scratch Build
« Reply #88 on: May 08, 2016, 02:21:17 pm »
Now that I have a clean joystick. I need to finish up the control panel.

Routed out the retainer clip recess.


Drilled the rest of the holes. The drill slipped as I was drilling one of the holes for latch clip. I should have been more careful. Anyway, you won't be able to see it.\


Sanded it to remove all pencil marks.


The top view. Next time I'll cut everything before painting.


Installed all the components. The screws are way too long for the joystick and latch clips.


The top side.

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Re: Yet Another Donkey Kong Scratch Build
« Reply #89 on: May 09, 2016, 08:30:03 pm »
I applied all the stickers except for coin stickers.

I used the following two videos for reference.
Tighe's restoration video
Donkey Kong Side Art Application "Kong Off 4" by Richie Knucklez

I taped the sticker into place at 4.75" from top and 2.25" from back. I made reference marks.


I drew directly on the laminate with pencil for reference lines. Easy to clean up after.


I used the roller I bought for applying the laminate.


Was a lot easier than I thought except my hands started to ache from pressing too hard with roller.


Finished result.


I used a Magic Eraser to wipe the pencil marks off.


Progress on cabinet so far. Going to have to wait until next weekend on cutting speaker holes.
« Last Edit: May 09, 2016, 08:34:52 pm by zinger »

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Re: Yet Another Donkey Kong Scratch Build
« Reply #90 on: May 09, 2016, 09:04:14 pm »
I'm no DK lover by any means but brother your build is looking super clean.

Speaker grill should be a cinch with a small flush trim bit, you already cut the slots in the wood right?

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Re: Yet Another Donkey Kong Scratch Build
« Reply #91 on: May 09, 2016, 11:18:56 pm »
I'm no DK lover by any means but brother your build is looking super clean.

Speaker grill should be a cinch with a small flush trim bit, you already cut the slots in the wood right?

It's the cleanest and quickest build I've seen.

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« Reply #92 on: May 10, 2016, 05:15:53 pm »
I'm no DK lover by any means but brother your build is looking super clean.

Speaker grill should be a cinch with a small flush trim bit, you already cut the slots in the wood right?

It's the cleanest and quickest build I've seen.
Thanks! I haven't cut the speaker grill at all. I decided to route it after the laminate was on there and just do it once. :) I have lots of laminate left over.

So I was looking to build a complete replica but its really expensive. The DK board and Sanyo 19" CRT would be ~$550. I saw on ebay someone was trying to sell a DK power supply for $200. Crazy prices!

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Re: Yet Another Donkey Kong Scratch Build
« Reply #93 on: May 20, 2016, 11:28:04 am »
man that laminate has come up looking awesome! wishing i brought that before i brought the paint for mine. oh well, we will have to see how it turns out now haha

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Re: Yet Another Donkey Kong Scratch Build
« Reply #94 on: June 11, 2016, 07:18:01 pm »
Exceptional!  :cheers:

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Re: Yet Another Donkey Kong Scratch Build
« Reply #95 on: August 27, 2017, 01:19:59 am »
I'm back! Last year I started to route the speaker grill and used the Jackobud plans. The result did not look very pleasing. I tried to make adjustments to follow the Gaetan plans but ended up chipping the laminate!  :( So I decided to put the project aside for a few weeks. Well weeks turned into months and the Donkey Kong has been sitting in my garage for over a year.

Today, I built another front speaker panel and laminated it with all the left over Donkey Kong blue laminate that I have. I'll route the speaker grill using the Gaetan plans tomorrow.

Also, I took an 8 week sabbatical at my work and I came back to this! This definitely provides some motivation to finish this thing!


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« Reply #96 on: August 28, 2017, 01:19:10 am »
I laminated a new piece to be used for the front speaker panel. I'm cutting an angle along the top edge so the control panel rests flat on it. For this I need to make sure the laminate is facing up or the table saw will tear it up.


This is the jig that I built for cutting the speaker slots. Here are some notes:
  • Added paper under the white panel pieces until it was flush with blue speaker panel.
  • Used 5/8th wooden spacers since I don't have any thing that's 16 mm thickness. So .625 instead of .6299 inches which is close enough.
  • Used 5/16th straight router bit which is half width of spacers.
  • Used blue painters tape to ensure spacers are pulled tight together. No need for clamps.
  • Was able to draw marks directly on laminate. Can wash this off after.


I ran multiple passes of the router to route the slots. I was very careful not to plunge in and chip the laminate. Also, I did not need any stops for lateral movement. It was easy enough to watch the router bit and make sure it doesn't go past my pencil marks.


All done routing the speaker grill!


I was able to use a magic eraser to wipe away the pencil marks.


Looks clean!


The back as well!


There are no noticeable chips to the laminate which was what I was most afraid of.


Next week I'll paint the inside of grill black.

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Re: Yet Another Donkey Kong Scratch Build
« Reply #97 on: August 28, 2017, 07:22:37 am »
awesome job on the grill, guess your painting the grill slots black ?

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Re: Yet Another Donkey Kong Scratch Build
« Reply #98 on: August 29, 2017, 01:51:09 am »
Next week I'll paint the inside of grill black.

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Re: Yet Another Donkey Kong Scratch Build
« Reply #99 on: August 30, 2017, 12:12:00 pm »
need new glasses  ;D

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Re: Yet Another Donkey Kong Scratch Build
« Reply #100 on: August 30, 2017, 01:10:43 pm »
Seems a bit silly but I was having a hard time finding exactly where the coin sticker goes on the speaker panel.

There are lots of photos where its placed in various spots. I did see old barn finds where it was placed centered on the panel and was thinking this was likely the right spot. I began looking at old vintage arcade photos. I found one of Michael Jackson playing DK, etc. However, usually people were standing in front of the DK or the photo was of the screen and marquee area.

The following picture states its from an arcade room on the USS Enterprise in 1982 (National Archives). So from this it appears the sticker is centered on the panel like the old barn find pictures that I've seen.



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« Reply #101 on: August 30, 2017, 04:29:01 pm »
Yeah, there was no rule of thumb for it,

the original one on one of my games is slightly lower of centre.  They are all pretty much dead centre from left to right tho.

Remember, something like this wasn't put on with a template. Just some person in a factory installing them all day long.  Side art was a different story.

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« Reply #102 on: August 31, 2017, 02:50:43 am »
awesome job on the grill, guess your painting the grill slots black ?
I painted the grill slots black.   :cheers:

The entire panel was taped off. Here I'm peeling off the last of the tape.


The laminate is clean!


I placed coin sticker and installed speaker panel. Looking pretty good!

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« Reply #103 on: September 03, 2017, 12:06:02 am »
I've decided to look into buying a CRT for this to make it more authentic.

Anyway, I'm a newb to arcade monitors and I found a 100 volt 19" Nintendo Monitor (Mitsubishi) for $80. All I know is that its possibly been in a double monitor cabinet such as Punch Out and that it still works. It has some slight burn-in but likely not noticeable behind the DK bezel.

What concerns should I have? Will this work? I'm planning to pick this up on Monday. I'm not sure how to deal with 100 volts yet or other hardware I need. I may still hook up to PC but I'm also looking to get an actual DK 2-board set as well.

Here are some pics:


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« Reply #104 on: September 03, 2017, 04:59:35 pm »
not sure all of the moving parts to get 100v power but one of the shops sells a nintendo 100v switching power supply for around $40.

the cab turned out nice...im behind you by a few weeks...got side tracked making the wife happy and building mud room cubbies.


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« Reply #105 on: September 05, 2017, 01:18:01 am »
the cab turned out nice...im behind you by a few weeks...got side tracked making the wife happy and building mud room cubbies.
Thanks! You definitely have to make the wife happy.  ;D

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« Reply #106 on: September 05, 2017, 01:20:08 am »
not sure all of the moving parts to get 100v power but one of the shops sells a nintendo 100v switching power supply for around $40.

the cab turned out nice...im behind you by a few weeks...got side tracked making the wife happy and building mud room cubbies.

Which shop?
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Re: Yet Another Donkey Kong Scratch Build
« Reply #107 on: September 05, 2017, 01:27:51 am »
Things just got real!


I met a guy on Craigslist who hooked me up!

I picked up:
  • 2 x Sanyo 20EZ
  • Sharp monitor
  • 3 power supplies w/ 2 mounted with iso transformer
  • DK 2-board set w/ Braze save kit?
  • Marquee light
  • Also, picked up parts for a Robotron such as monitor, control panel, and power supply. Next project!

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« Reply #108 on: September 05, 2017, 01:34:12 am »
Which shop?
I might be looking in the wrong places but I was having a hard time finding an iso transformer. New power supplies were easy to find though. I just lucked out today on Craigslist. Usually there's nothing on there.

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« Reply #109 on: September 05, 2017, 10:45:46 am »
the iso is a bit harder to find new, i ran across some a while back but cant recall where i found them
look like you got all the major parts.
mikes arcade should have the wiring harnesses you need

every now and then you can find a super harness (not sure the real name) on klov...they did a run a year or so ago and they combined all harnesses into one to be used by any nintendo cab

here is the link to the power supply
http://www.arcadeshop.com/i/545/nintendo-power-supply-conversion-kit.htm

care to offload any of that sweet loot?

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« Reply #111 on: September 05, 2017, 11:37:14 pm »
https://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=350674
Yep that would cover the power supply. However, if you come across a step-down iso transformer that goes from 120V to 100V then that would be cool to mention here.

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« Reply #112 on: September 06, 2017, 01:40:44 am »
I'm lost, why are you looking for a 100v ISO? you have a pair of them in that picture.   Those Nintendo power supplies are all you'll need to power a 20EZ, that marque light, and whatever Nintendo boardset you want to put in the cab.


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« Reply #113 on: September 06, 2017, 02:22:40 am »
I'm lost, why are you looking for a 100v ISO? you have a pair of them in that picture.   Those Nintendo power supplies are all you'll need to power a 20EZ, that marque light, and whatever Nintendo boardset you want to put in the cab.
Sorry, there was a conversation that was going on when I was actually looking for an 100v iso. During this conversation, I ended up finding the two in the picture. However, I'm still interested to know if there are modern 100v ISO transformers out there.

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« Reply #114 on: September 07, 2017, 12:45:45 am »
This is starting to become a restoration now. :) I've bought all of the cable harnesses for the TKG4 board such as video, sound, control panel, coin, etc. I also bought the bezel, brackets and bolts to mount the monitor. I could have saved money by making all the cable harnesses myself but "I ain't got time for that!" I'm hoping I get these before this weekend.

Also, I'll be adding all 5 carriage bolts on each side for mounting the monitor even though only 2 are used. Who knows... maybe someone will want to convert this cabinet some day and mount the monitor horizontally?  :dunno

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« Reply #115 on: September 11, 2017, 12:50:22 am »
Originally, this was just going to be an RPi MAME build. So this past week, I've been undoing things such as removing battens in the back and routing out a 1/4" rabbet along the back sides to fit a normal size DK door.

Also, I wasn't planning to use any of the interior braces for the monitor or DK board from the Gaetan plans. So I had to build a template for these using the scale drawings that I printed last year. This template ensures that I install the panels supports exactly the same way on both sides of cabinet.


Also, I'm not so sure the monitor is fitting correctly using the Gaetan drawings. I've posted a question over to the Monitor/Video section:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,155255.0.html

Here are the pictures of the dry fit for the monitor. I haven't glued down anything yet and can move or change sizes of the panels supporting the monitor, etc.



Finally, I got all the wires from Mike's Arcade for the DK board. I'm going to power this on next weekend and see what problems I have. :)


Finally, I'm going to fix the black paint inside the cab to better match a DK cabs.

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Re: Yet Another Donkey Kong Scratch Build
« Reply #116 on: September 11, 2017, 03:48:57 am »
That gap between the monitor cage and the back board is proper. They should not touch.

It's scary how legit the inside of this game looks.

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« Reply #117 on: September 11, 2017, 10:20:35 pm »
The legit look is thanks to the measurements and plans that you and Gaetan put together. Of course others have been helpful too for other parts of the cabinet. You should consider adding a link to Tighe's measurements for placing the DK side art from here: https://youtu.be/e91NybttYBg?t=3455 in your "So, You want to build a Classic Nintendo Cab?"

I have some questions about the DK PCB panel seen below in pic.
  • What is the width of the PCB panel? I have the length from the 1:1 scale drawings but not the width.
  • What are the dimensions for the PCB inserts? I can see from pics they are just strips of plywood.
  • I can see one PCB insert is on edge of panel. What's the distance from side of cabinet to first PCB insert?




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« Reply #118 on: September 18, 2017, 12:01:12 am »
I worked on the back of the DK cabinet today. I needed to cut a rabbet along the back sides in order to fit standard size DK door (23" x 50.5"). This would have been much easier to have done this when I had cut out the sides but I originally wasn't planning for any of this. I think in 30 years you may not be able to tell this is a reproduction. :)

This is the jig I used for rabbeting the back sides with a router.



Here is the back assembled. I just need to paint this all black.



Also, shout out to behrmr! He's shipping me a coin box with surround, speaker grill, coin counter, service button, etc. It should get here on Thursday. Thanks!!

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Re: Yet Another Donkey Kong Scratch Build
« Reply #119 on: September 18, 2017, 08:52:59 am »
This project was clean and well done from the beginning. You just made it 100x better with the addition of the PCB and the CRT. :applaud:

  
 

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