Anyone know of a list of all the arcade only racing games that SEGA made please?

[POOTERMAN]

Thought this was the best place to ask as Google results only seem to just list all their games so does anyone please have or know of a list of all the arcade only racing games that SEGA made please?

Be it cars, bikes, jetski's whatever if it involved racing and it was in the arcade cabinet (Not the Megaplay console stuff) I'd really appreciate finding a list of these games so I can get them altogether for my cab

I made a quick list and have 44 games so far, but know there's more if you include different 'editions' of games i.e. Daytona 2 'Power Edition' etc.

Cheers guys, please let me know what I missed and really looking forward to hearing from you.

Thanks for reading.

[DorkVonWaterfall]

klov.com?

http://www.arcade-museum.com/manuf_detail.php?manuf_id=1605&orig_game_id=10218&sort=5

[MrThunderwing]

Just at a quick glance I can see a few additions you could make:

Rad Rally
WaveRunner GP
F1 Super Lap
F1 Exhaust Note
Scud Race Plus
Hang-On Jnr

These next ones are still fairly recent-ish arcade titles, so I don't think any arcade dumps even exist (let alone a way to play them), but they are Sega arcade titles:

Sonic and All Star Racing
Sega Rally 3
GRID

[thomas_surles]

Just at a quick glance I can see a few additions you could make:

Rad Rally
WaveRunner GP
F1 Super Lap
F1 Exhaust Note
Scud Race Plus
Hang-On Jnr

These next ones are still fairly recent-ish arcade titles, so I don't think any arcade dumps even exist (let alone a way to play them), but they are Sega arcade titles:

Sonic and All Star Racing
Sega Rally 3
GRID

the pc ports would be the way to go for now

[BadMouth]

Have a look at the MAME spreadsheet linked to in the driving cab info thread.
It lists the manufacturer in one of the columns.
That should get you all the older ones.

EDIT: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pJLy8JgRF7dL1X3CcDyDLKOLSIJs4gYZY4DLI0pmnmE/edit#gid=1
Click on the data tab, then sort by column A (first option).

Notice there are two other tabs for imperfect and unemulated.

DOUBLE EDIT:

Then go back to the driving cab info thread and scroll down to the list of "what to play on your setup"
For stuff that doesn't run in MAME, it is separated by system.
All the model 2, model 3, and Naomi games are listed there.
I might have even put the Hikaru games there.

[MrThunderwing]

Just at a quick glance I can see a few additions you could make:

Rad Rally
WaveRunner GP
F1 Super Lap
F1 Exhaust Note
Scud Race Plus
Hang-On Jnr

These next ones are still fairly recent-ish arcade titles, so I don't think any arcade dumps even exist (let alone a way to play them), but they are Sega arcade titles:

Sonic and All Star Racing
Sega Rally 3
GRID

the pc ports would be the way to go for now

I'm being super-pedantic here, but technically none of those last 3 have had PC ports. For Sonic and GRID it's more the other way around, they had arcade games created based on the home console and PC games. The arcade version of Sonic looks more or less identical from what I've seen on YouTube, give-or-take a few menus. I've no idea how the arcade version of GRID compares to the home versions, I've little interest in either as it's always felt too much like a sim racer than an arcade racer. Sega Rally 3 has never had a PC conversion, the closest thing to it is Sega Rally Online Arcade on the PS3 and 360, but both are visually inferior to the arcade as they run at 30 fps and the arcade is 60 fps. Sega Rally Revo on the PC looks visually similar to Sega Rally 3, but they are different games with very different handling.

Like I said though, this is just me being mega-pedantic.

[BadMouth]

Seems I was logged into my BYOAC google account when I sorted by manufacturer, so the changes stuck. 

That spreadsheet also has the year released on it.
I'd find it more interesting to have the list organized by year released than alphabetized.

[pbj]

This list is better than ever, instant poetry.

This was meant to be.

[POOTERMAN]

Alex - "mega-pedantic" No mate, Passionate - YES

[Howard_Casto]

Sega really wasted their time in the 90's focusing on console games... take a look at the list and then make a list of the best racers ever made.... they are going to be really similar.  If they had kept their focus on ride simulators the arcades might still be viable today. 

[MrThunderwing]

Alex - "mega-pedantic" No mate, Passionate - YES

Indeed mate, I do loves me arcade racers 

Sega really wasted their time in the 90's focusing on console games... take a look at the list and then make a list of the best racers ever made.... they are going to be really similar.  If they had kept their focus on ride simulators the arcades might still be viable today.

Indeed. Stuff like the sit-down pneumatic Outrun and Afterburner games made a trip to the arcade that bit extra special back then. Mind you when I was a young lad, arcades were an altogether different kettle of fish to the weird, sanitised, family friendly affairs we have nowadays were £2 gets you as 3 minute game of something and ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- like mobile phone games like Flappy bird have got their very own arcade machine. Flappy Bird! Back then, arcades were dimly lit, dingy, smoke filled, dens of ill repute with sticky carpets and a slight air of danger owing to all the older scary kids, replete with bum-fluff moustaches, from the dodgy parts of town. Like an Aladdin's cave of equal parts danger and excitement.

Er, I seem to have strayed off the point a bit here...

[POOTERMAN]

Okay guys, I spent the past few hours doing some more research before updating my list.

66 racing games I make it!!

If you get the time please check out the list and see if you agree, oh and I would really appreciate it if you think I've left anything out!

Cheers guys

Right, back to my dimly lit, dingy, smoke filled, den of ill repute to play with the older scary kid with a bum-fluff moustache, or as I call her - the wife

[DarthMarino]

There are several games on this list such as Crazy Taxi and King of Route 66 that were ported.

[orangepink]

I tried to use Klov to sort racing games (all manufacturers) by DATE a while back and it was only giving limited results, even when I made an account. Does anyone know where I can get a complete, comprehensive list of all the arcade racing games by release date?

[POOTERMAN]

There are several games on this list such as Crazy Taxi and King of Route 66 that were ported.

Yup, but the point of this task was to make a list of racing games that SEGA made that appeared in the arcade so us SEGA racing fans knew whch games would need to be added to our cabs etc.

I didn't want SEGA home console releases on the list if they didn't have an arcade counterpart first.

[POOTERMAN]

I tried to use Klov to sort racing games (all manufacturers) by DATE a while back and it was only giving limited results, even when I made an account. Does anyone know where I can get a complete, comprehensive list of all the arcade racing games by release date?

I looked for one before starting the SEGA list but couldn't find one, every list I found (on Wikipedia etc) falls well short and has lots of obvious entries missing.

A list of all arcade racing games would be a really good idea.

Maybe I should start a Namco, Jaleco, Taito, Atari, Midway list too 

[MrThunderwing]

There are several games on this list such as Crazy Taxi and King of Route 66 that were ported.

D'oh! How could I forget Crazy Taxi? I'm a big Bad Religion fan as well.

[BadMouth]

Yup, but the point of this task was to make a list of racing games that SEGA made that appeared in the arcade so us SEGA racing fans knew whch games would need to be added to our cabs etc.

A list of all arcade racing games would be a really good idea.

What about the lists in the driving cab info thread falls short of that?
It's pretty much everything that's playable.

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,105961.msg1122792.html#msg1122792

......and the spreadsheet contains every game listed in MAME (playable or not) up through a few years ago.

[jennifer]

This list is better than ever, instant poetry.

This was meant to be.

It can only be compared to celluloid heros and villians....And possibly a dream sequence of Jennifer at the mall . (giggle)

[pbj]

..sigh.. And what's even the point of referencing the best racing game lyrics ever around here...

(Sega touring car championship track 1)

[VirtuaIceMan]

http://system16.com/chronology.php?id=1 could be useful, though you'll have to check through them all. There's many, many pre-modern arcade Sega racing games (mechanical based) like Monaco GP... and earlier!

[Howard_Casto]

If E.M. games are added it's going to be a loooooong list.  SEGA started as a Hawaiian-based amusement company founded before ww II.  They made a metric ton of shooting gallery games in that period and switched over to racing games in the early 70's. 

[pbj]

If E.M. games are added it's going to be a loooooong list.  SEGA started as a Hawaiian-based amusement company founded before ww II.   

You know, I was gonna call BS on this but I checked Wikipedia and I see Sega's revised their history.... again.

[Howard_Casto]

It's more of a revision of perspective.  The current SEGA is a merging of two companies, it all depends upon if you count the original company as sega or not.  That part is certainly subjective.

[pbj]

I don't know at what point they morphed from "jukeboxes" to "slot machines" but what they were writing back in the 90s in Sega Visions was clearly sanitized. 

I've personally seen Gottlieb machines that were designed to pay out but you still hear that "Gottlieb never made gambling devices" BS in pinball histories, so I guess it doesn't surprise me.

[MrThunderwing]

..sigh.. And what's even the point of referencing the best racing game lyrics ever around here...

(Sega touring car championship track 1)

If only I'd opened up my eyes, I would've realised...

[Howard_Casto]

I don't know at what point they morphed from "jukeboxes" to "slot machines" but what they were writing back in the 90s in Sega Visions was clearly sanitized. 

I've personally seen Gottlieb machines that were designed to pay out but you still here that "Gottlieb never made gambling devices" BS in pinball histories, so I guess it doesn't surprise me.

Well I'm sure the fact that a company thought of as Japanese once manufacturing "Shoot the Jap" WWII propaganda style machines had something to do with that.  They rarely mention anything they've done prior to the 70's.... then again, neither does Nintendo... selling playing cards to the yakuza and investing in Love Hotels probably had something to do with that one.

[twistedsymphony]

Okay guys, I spent the past few hours doing some more research before updating my list.

66 racing games I make it!!

If you get the time please check out the list and see if you agree, oh and I would really appreciate it if you think I've left anything out!

Cheers guys

Right, back to my dimly lit, dingy, smoke filled, den of ill repute to play with the older scary kid with a bum-fluff moustache, or as I call her - the wife

You're missing:
18 Wheeler American Pro Trucker
Club Kart (a different game than prize and European session)
Crazy Taxi High Roller
F1 World Grand Prix
F355 Challenge 2
Hummer Extreme Edition (a different game than Hummer)
Jambo Safari
NASCAR Arcade
Outrun 2 SP
Outrun 2 SP DX (a different game than Outrun 2 SP)
Super GT 24h
Tokyo Bus Tour
Virtua Formula

On Sega Hardware but not necessarily Sega games:
Mario Kart Arcade GP
Mario Kart Arcade GP 2
Over Rev
Storm Racer G
Wangan Midnight Maximum Tune
Wangan Midnight Maximum Tune 2

If you want to include Atomiswave Games there's also
Faster Than Speed
Maximum Speed
Chase 1929

[POOTERMAN]

Thanks for the input TwistedSymphony

As I was trying to find all the Sega developed arcade racing games here's a few thoughts on some of the games you just listed:


Club Kart - I can only find 2 'Club Kart' games as ever existing. Tthe original game that had the suffix 'European Session' and the spin-off 'Club Kart Prize'. Some used the Cycraft moving cabinet but cabinet design doesn't define it as a different game. 

F1 World Grand Prix - Can't see this listed as an arcade game anywhere, only as a console game?

Super GT 24h - Developed by Jaleco for Sega hardware so not a Sega game.

Nascar Arcade - Same problem I have with classing 'GRID' as a Sega game as it was made by Codemasters to run on Sega hardware. Nascar was developed by Electronic Arts to run on Sega hardware.

Outrun 2 SP DX - I wouldn't say that cabinet and hardware changes warrant it being classed as a different game. It had 4 player link up with players taking it in turns to drive the car and moving away from Chihiro to Lindbergh hardware at a higher res. Still Outrun 2 SP gameplay though!

Jambo Safari/Tokyo Bus Tour - I don't class those as arcade racing games

Virtua Formula - Just a Japanese version of Virtua Racing that used a hydraulic seat!

Sega hardware/Atomiswave games - not Sega developed so these wern't put on the list.



Will add the different editions of games that you provided, I didn't know there was an Extreme Edition of Hummer, but then again I didn't know Sega had made an arcade game called Hummer as it hasn't been emulated yet as it's not that old!

Any others you think should be on the list guys, I'll update it and post it below.

[Howard_Casto]

I think I would loosen up the restrictions slightly.  Instead of racing games think driving games.....  Jambo Safari is definitely playable on a racing rig, for example, and if you throw it out you might have to throw out Outrun 2 as you are really only racing the clock except when in multiplayer. 

I do agree on the sega hardware vs sega produced games though..... at this point virtually all racing games run on either sega, Namco, or taito hardware as they are the only companies left. 

[POOTERMAN]

I hear what you're saying Howard but I think there's a difference bewteen 'Racing games' and 'Driving games'.

The intention was to create a list of the classic Sega arcade racers that people would remember and those that defined and influenced a generation.

The problem is with the personal definition of how the games are classed and as to what should or shouldn't be included as everyone's opinion will differ.

I personally wouldn't class 'Jambo safari, 'Tokyo Bus Tours' and '18 Wheeler American pro Trucking' as classic Sega arcade racing games.

I even struggled to decide as to whether "Crazy Taxi" and "Emergency Call Ambulance" should even be on the list! Just because I like the games and gameplay dictates that you take control of a vehicle is it realy then classed as an arcade racing game? Grey area this!

Racing against either an opponent/opponents or against a clock - is this the true definition of what an 'arcade racer' really is?

Just because my cab has a steering wheel on it should certain games be included under the heading of Sega Arcade Racing Games?

I'm being stubborn for now and sticking to my list that I just updated

Up to 70 games now!

[twistedsymphony]

The Sega Lindbergh hardware isn't emulated at all, but it is cracked. if you get yourself a properly specced lindbergh board you can buy a multi kit with most of the games on it (at least all of the ones that anyone cares about).

I recently bought one myself and currently have it setup with a multi kit.

as far as racing games are concerned it includes: Harley Davidson King of the Road, Hummer Extreme Edition, Initial D Arcade Stage 4, Initial D Arcade Stage 5, Outrun 2 SP, R-Tuned Ultimate Street Racing, and Sega Race TV

[POOTERMAN]

Twisted Symphony you've got me interested now - may I ask how much to expect to pay for the Lindbergh board and multi-kit everything else you may need for it?

Does it just connect up to any type of monitor and do you need to buy any kind of controller for it?

Got any links on where to get this stuff from please?

 

[Jitterdoomer]

Rad Mobile and Rad Rally. Rad Mobile was a racing game similar to Turbo Outrun where you race from LA to New York. Rad Rally was a sequel to Rad Mobile where you choose 4 Tracks on different time of the day and it's one of Sega's very first multiplayer racing game before Virtua Racing and the network emulation for this game was emulated on the latest MAME version.

[POOTERMAN]

Rad Mobile and Rad Rally. Rad Mobile was a racing game similar to Turbo Outrun where you race from LA to New York. Rad Rally was a sequel to Rad Mobile where you choose 4 Tracks on different time of the day and it's one of Sega's very first multiplayer racing game before Virtua Racing and the network emulation for this game was emulated on the latest MAME version.

Confused by your post Jitterdoomer? Those 2 games have always been on the list.

[twistedsymphony]

Twisted Symphony you've got me interested now - may I ask how much to expect to pay for the Lindbergh board and multi-kit everything else you may need for it?

Does it just connect up to any type of monitor and do you need to buy any kind of controller for it?

Got any links on where to get this stuff from please?

 

I paid about $100 for the Lindbergh unit on Yahoo Auctions Japan... after fees and shipping it was another $120 to get it and then the multi-kit costs $150... so all said and done about $370 for the whole setup delivered. You need to make sure you're buying the right Lindbergh version. A Lindbergh Yellow or Blue are going to be your best bet, you'll want to make sure it includes the JVS PCI card (this will be all the way on the right and looks like it has a USB and an Ethernet port) as well as the Audio PCI card, and that the video card has the VGA port on the bottom (the version with the VGA port on the top is a lower specced card and incompatible with many games). The kit includes an CF card that plugs into the motherboard (where the OS resides) a new IDE Harddrive (with the games) and a security chip coded to the new CF card.

It uses VGA out and supports resolutions of 640x480 up through 1360x786, some game games will only support 640x480, other games will only support higher resolutions. A normal PC Power supply plugs right in and can be used for power, Audio is provided by either a set of Stereo RCA jacks on the PCI audio board or via the head phone jack for the on-board audio (some games use the card other games use the on-board audio). All the games are stereo except for Afterburner climax and Lets go Jungle, which are surround.

For controls you'll need to hook it up to a JVS I/O board, this is the same I/O board that is used by the NAOMI and most other arcade games since the early 2000s. I have a Sega JVS Type 1 and a Sega JVS type 2 board and the type 1 worked on all games except 2Spicy, the Type 2 worked on every game, Presumably the Type 3 (which is the newest revision) would also work on every game. Most (maybe all?) Lindbergh games used the Type 3 I/O from the factory.

The Force Feedback board is the same across all of the Lindbergh Driving games and connects to the serial port, though the board uses an RS-422 protocol so you'll also need an RS-232 to RS-422 adapter (this is how the actual arcade machines are setup).