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| monkeybomb:
--- Quote from: BadMouth on February 13, 2016, 10:39:57 am ---Last time I did this it was on MAME v.146 IIRC, I started out with 8 or 9 thousand roms. Working with romlister to delete the adult, gambling, mechanical, clones, etc got it down to around 1,200. I probably pruned a 50 or 60 more by hand that were missed because they weren't flagged properly. ....and that was leaving in games which I didn't have proper controls for. --- End quote --- I pretty much did the same thing using mcm ro pair down the 20k+ roms in .161. It was time consuming, but I'm happy with the set. The only thing I added was that I unmerged the rom set and selected the US versions that weren't the parent roms. I didn't want to only have the Japanese versions of every game that uses a Japanese parent rom. The obvious example being that I wanted pacman and not just puckman. From there I use attract mode to make lists. The point about people asking for some game I would have never included is valid for me as well, so I want to be able to get to them if there are people over. Plus the tag system made it easy. During any deleting, be careful that you're not deleting bios that you need. Even with an unmerged rom, some games won't play without the bios in the romset. At least that's what happened to me with the neo geo games. With MCM it was easy to undo. I did keep the full set, but it's not on the any of the set-ups I actually use. The 2800 works well for me. It's a huge bummer that we can't just give these rom sets and FE set-ups with each other. Guys are charging for it and I think almost everyone here would enjoy sharing the work they put in. |
| PL1:
--- Quote from: monkeybomb on February 14, 2016, 01:44:14 pm ---It's a huge bummer that we can't just give these rom sets and FE set-ups with each other. Guys are charging for it and I think almost everyone here would enjoy sharing the work they put in. --- End quote --- Nothing stopping you from sharing game lists or XML files. ;D When you start sharing/linking to/hinting about where to get ROMsets, Rule 5 kicks in. :police: On the other hand, if someone wrote a utility that used game lists/XML file contents to copy files from a folder with a full ROMset on your local HDD to another folder on your local HDD, I don't think that would be a Rule 5 issue. Scott |
| Hutt:
--- Quote from: monkeybomb on February 14, 2016, 01:44:14 pm --- --- Quote from: BadMouth on February 13, 2016, 10:39:57 am ---Last time I did this it was on MAME v.146 IIRC, I started out with 8 or 9 thousand roms. Working with romlister to delete the adult, gambling, mechanical, clones, etc got it down to around 1,200. I probably pruned a 50 or 60 more by hand that were missed because they weren't flagged properly. ....and that was leaving in games which I didn't have proper controls for. --- End quote --- I pretty much did the same thing using mcm ro pair down the 20k+ roms in .161. It was time consuming, but I'm happy with the set. The only thing I added was that I unmerged the rom set and selected the US versions that weren't the parent roms. I didn't want to only have the Japanese versions of every game that uses a Japanese parent rom. The obvious example being that I wanted pacman and not just puckman. From there I use attract mode to make lists. The point about people asking for some game I would have never included is valid for me as well, so I want to be able to get to them if there are people over. Plus the tag system made it easy. During any deleting, be careful that you're not deleting bios that you need. Even with an unmerged rom, some games won't play without the bios in the romset. At least that's what happened to me with the neo geo games. With MCM it was easy to undo. I did keep the full set, but it's not on the any of the set-ups I actually use. The 2800 works well for me. It's a huge bummer that we can't just give these rom sets and FE set-ups with each other. Guys are charging for it and I think almost everyone here would enjoy sharing the work they put in. --- End quote --- Well, I'm definitely using romlister to weed out the bulk of the roms before I start running the remainder with the batch file from yamatetsu. But what is the deal with these bios files? I pulled up the list of them with romlister and also viewed them in MAMEUI64 So I guess none of these are actually games but just files needed for some of the roms... how do you know which? Or since there are less than a 100 is it better to just keep them all? Also, and I think I have the right choices on these but which roms do you pick when there are multiple options. 1941 for example... I am using the 1941u rom.. since its the USA version ....1942, 1943u, 1944 But for the most part I use the roms with the simplest filename.... these are what I assume to be the totally original final sets? Dig Dug is digdug Donkey Kong dkong Mortal Kombat mk Mortal Kombat II mk2 etc. --- Quote ---On the other hand, if someone wrote a utility that used game lists/XML file contents to copy files from a folder with a full ROMset on your local HDD to another folder on your local HDD, I don't think that would be a Rule 5 issue. Scott --- End quote --- That would be sweet! |
| yamatetsu:
--- Quote from: Hutt on February 14, 2016, 03:19:46 pm ---But what is the deal with these bios files? ... So I guess none of these are actually games but just files needed for some of the roms... how do you know which? --- End quote --- I'll quote myself. --- Quote from: yamatetsu on February 12, 2016, 05:26:50 am ---In DOS-mode, MAME kindly provides the info. It states that rom 'xy' is not working, missing 'so and so', having looked in 'xy' and, for example 'namco79'. So I know that namco79.zip is missing. This I copy from the romsbackup directory to the roms directory. The game will now work. Rinse and repeat for all games. --- End quote --- After I'm done weeding out the unwanted games, I make a new batch file for the directory of the games I keep. If a game doesn't run, I look into the DOS window to check which file(s) are missing. |
| PL1:
--- Quote from: Hutt on February 14, 2016, 03:19:46 pm ---But what is the deal with these bios files? I pulled up the list of them with romlister and also viewed them in MAMEUI64 So I guess none of these are actually games but just files needed for some of the roms... how do you know which? --- End quote --- The bios files are usually common to a range of games. Case in point, the Atari System 1 bios "atarisy1" is used in a variety of games including: Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom Marble Madness Peter Pack-Rat Road Blasters Road Runner All of those games used similar hardware including POKEY audio that is included in the BIOS. As emulation improves on the common hardware, the DEVs don't have to make changes to each individual game's emulation code. --- Quote from: Hutt on February 14, 2016, 03:19:46 pm --- --- Quote from: monkeybomb on February 14, 2016, 01:44:14 pm ---The only thing I added was that I unmerged the rom set and selected the US versions that weren't the parent roms. I didn't want to only have the Japanese versions of every game that uses a Japanese parent rom. The obvious example being that I wanted pacman and not just puckman. --- End quote --- Also, and I think I have the right choices on these but which roms do you pick when there are multiple options. 1941 for example... I am using the 1941u rom.. since its the USA version ....1942, 1943u, 1944 But for the most part I use the roms with the simplest filename.... these are what I assume to be the totally original final sets? Dig Dug is digdug Donkey Kong dkong Mortal Kombat mk Mortal Kombat II mk2 etc. --- End quote --- The "simplest filename" is usually the Parent ROM which is usually the latest available revision. For example, the Parent ROM "gauntlet" shows up as "Gauntlet (rev 14)" on the gamelist, while the Child ROM "gauntlet2p" shows up as "Gauntlet (2 Players, rev 6)". "gauntlet" has 20 files, including four with filenames that end in 9a, 9b, 7a, and 7b. "gauntlet2p" has only four files -- they end in 9a, 9b, 7a, and 7b. Those four files are the difference between four-player Gauntlet (rev 14) and two-player Gauntlet (rev 6). MAME uses the other 16 files from Parent ROM "gauntlet" with the 4 files from Child ROM "gauntlet2p" to run "Gauntlet (2 Players, rev 6)". Scott P.S. Forgot to mention that you can copy the other 16 files from the Gauntlet Parent ROM into the Child ROM if you don't want the Parent on your gamelist. ;D |
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