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| Howard_Casto:
Not really. Many things are objectively better. That metal fan is a prime example. They used a really good bearing on those things and they were nearly indestructible. You can run one of those things for 30 years non-stop and they are fine. Meanwhile if I wake up in the middle of the night an knock my pos fan off the night stand it's probably broke. It's the same way with games, but often even more clear-cut. If you want to play a side-scrolling beat-em-up, for example, you pretty much have to look at the classic consoles and emulation because, aside from a rare exception once in a blue moon, they just don't make them at all period.... forget about making them "better". |
| Token:
I still regularly use some of my great-grandfather's tools. Nothing made in the 2010s will be used by our children. We live in the age of planned obsolescence. |
| BadMouth:
Well if we're bitching about newer games..... The way most modern games play just doesn't do anything for me. Most of them feel like a movie playing and I just have to press some buttons to keep the movie going. Sometimes I mess up and have to repeat a scene. Whether I've gotten better with practice or have critical thinking skills is irrelevant. Everything including your ability to hit an enemy is based on mindlessly acquired experience points. I played through the newer Tomb Raider and enjoyed it from a story and cinematic perspective. I played maybe the first half hour of Alan Wake, but it just seemed like more of the same. I sank 10 or 20 hours into skyrim before it seemed pointless. It was just a bunch of "go here do this", again and again. I accept that other people enjoy this, but it's just not for me. I played Limbo obsessively until I beat it because the puzzles were enjoyable. There's a weird game called 140 that I also enjoy because I improve with practice and it also has some puzzle elements. The other night I stayed up an extra hour trying to beat the level boss on a modern streets of rage knock off because it was challenging. I will spend an hour or two racing the same damn track (intermediate or advanced) with the same damn car on Ridge Racer 2 because it is challenging. |
| dkersten:
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on February 04, 2016, 01:26:34 am ---Not really. Many things are objectively better. That metal fan is a prime example. They used a really good bearing on those things and they were nearly indestructible. You can run one of those things for 30 years non-stop and they are fine. Meanwhile if I wake up in the middle of the night an knock my pos fan off the night stand it's probably broke. It's the same way with games, but often even more clear-cut. If you want to play a side-scrolling beat-em-up, for example, you pretty much have to look at the classic consoles and emulation because, aside from a rare exception once in a blue moon, they just don't make them at all period.... forget about making them "better". --- End quote --- And I could say that a metal blade is dangerous if you have kids, so plastic is far superior if safety is the more important criteria, and the price is higher than ten desk fans that would each last me a few years before breaking and probably be UL listed by todays standards where that old fan probably isn't. You can certainly say the bearings are going to last longer or that the fan could take more abuse without breaking down. But you can't claim that those factors are always the most important to all people. That would be a subjective statement. I don't disagree that stuff made several decades ago was built to last, and if you looked in my shop you would find many examples of older tools that I prefer over something newer. I just can't say that everyone shares my opinion. A good example would be the Delta Unisaw. Any experienced woodworker that has used an old one and a new one would tell you that the old one was built better. I am actually looking at buying a Unisaw right now, and while I am sure I could spend a little more and find one of the old ones that were built stronger, the features of the new versions weigh in just as strong for me so I don't see a reason not to buy a new one. As a whole, in my opinion they are equal, so the better value for me is the newer one. |
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