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| ark_ader:
--- Quote from: wp34 on January 01, 2016, 01:31:25 am --- All that aside I do agree with you that George's downfall as a filmmaker is that he got so big that nobody could give him constructive criticism. If you saw any of Rick McCallum's interviews during the 90's his job seemed to be to both kiss George's ass and promote him as a genius. He got Producer credit for it. --- End quote --- John Dykstra is a good example of this. Lucas didn't invite him back to do the other films. They clashed constantly. ILM at the time was bunch of hippies in a garage,screwing around while camera equipment was not being used on the film was scattered around the place. Lucas had 8 weeks to get the special effects done. I would have loved to be a fly on the wall when Lucas showed up and went ape ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- in that garage/hanger. |
| deadmoney5:
--- Quote from: dkersten on January 01, 2016, 01:06:03 pm --- --- Quote from: yotsuya on December 31, 2015, 11:50:29 pm --- --- Quote from: Token on December 31, 2015, 11:49:31 pm --- --- Quote from: yotsuya on December 31, 2015, 10:15:33 pm ---And leave Lucas alone. I hope he takes that kajillions he made from the franchise and goes back and makes the deep, personal films he wanted to make back in college. --- End quote --- That George Lucas is long dead. --- End quote --- If he is, you nerds killed him. --- End quote --- No, him putting his name on the extended universe and even personally approving some of the story arcs (like chewy's death) then turning around a decade later and cashing out on the name by shitting on the fans that got him to where he was is what made hardcore fans hate him. What killed him was insisting that he knew how to write dialogue and producing three movies that never would have made it past "now on dvd" if they hadn't used the Star Wars name. The story he wrote for them was bad enough, but the dialogue is hard to watch, not just bad, but actually makes you squirm in your seat because it is so horrible. It's like awkward humor without the humor, and with half as many words. A five year old could have done better with the script, and that is being generous. Lucas wasn't killed by fans, he committed suicide because his big head couldn't fit through the door but he forced it through anyway. If he had just hired someone with a speck of talent to write the script the movies might have had a redeeming factor... Seriously, sit and watch ep 1-3, and the FIRST emotional dialogue comes at the end when Anakin is fighting Obi-wan. That's the first time in the entire trilogy where dialogue flows and feels right for the movies. And the only time. To say that he would make something with emotion or even to suggest he has any talent whatsoever is a joke, purely and utterly. His only talent lies in branding.. his money came from brands like Star Wars and THX... --- End quote --- I watched Episodes 1-3 over the weekend and I forgot how boring the first 2 were..I almost fell asleep during both movies..i don't care enough about the characters. Episode 3 was actually pretty good for me. |
| harveybirdman:
Just pointing out again that the whole Finn's the Jedi "ruse" was piss poor and stupid. I actually believe Hasbro when they say that Rey was left out of the Monopoly game to hide the LMFAO "major" plot point that she was going to be the Jedi and fight Kylo Ren.... Like we didn't know that after watching her fly the Falcon naturally like young Anakin.... Come on... What a stupid moronic plot device to shove the feminist agenda into Star Wars. Like many women she was already bad ass, they didn't need to tear down perceived stereotypical story lines and detract form the only truly original character of the movie to shame everyone for their "misogynistic" thinking. |
| Grasshopper:
I finally got round to seeing this on Saturday. I’m probably repeating what’s already been said, but FWIW, here are my thoughts: There was a lot to like about the film. The special effects were great. The new cast was very good, especially Daisy Ridley. However, my overall feeling was one of slight disappointment. The biggest issue for me was that the film borrowed far too many ideas from the previous films. I mean seriously, did we really need to have the rebels flying down a trench to destroy a Deathstar for a third time? Is the empire (or whatever it’s called these days) really dumb enough to leave their biggest and most expensive weapon insufficiently protected three times in a row? Did we really need to have another droid carrying a secret message, and being pursued over a desert planet by Storm Troopers? Did we really need to have another cantina populated with funky looking aliens? Did we really need to have the good guys hiding under the floor of the Millenium Falcon again? Did we really need to have the heroine being rescued from the Deathstar again? Did we really need to have it revealed that the main bad guy is a family member who turned to the dark side again? Etc, etc, ..... The thing is, I was expecting (and actually looking forward to) the occasional nod towards the earlier films. But the amount of recycled material was ridiculous. At times, it felt more like a remake than a sequel. The only real surprise for me was the death of Han Solo (assuming of course that he is actually dead). I definitely didn’t see that coming. However, even that ended up being a bit of a damp squib. I can’t help thinking that if I was part of the 0.001% of the population who have never seen the original Star Wars movies, then I would have really enjoyed the latest film. However, as it was, there were just too few surprises to really hold my attention. |
| Grasshopper:
--- Quote from: wp34 on January 01, 2016, 01:31:25 am ---All that aside I do agree with you that George's downfall as a filmmaker is that he got so big that nobody could give him constructive criticism. If you saw any of Rick McCallum's interviews during the 90's his job seemed to be to both kiss George's ass and promote him as a genius. He got Producer credit for it. --- End quote --- Agreed. Didn't Harrison Ford famously say to Lucas on the set of episode 4 "you can type this ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---, but you can't say it!". He could get away with it because, at the time, George Lucas was an unknown hack director, directing a cast of unknowns, in a cheesy sci-fi B movie, that was expected to go straight to video. |
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