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CCM:

--- Quote from: dkersten on December 09, 2015, 05:02:41 pm ---
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on December 09, 2015, 02:47:34 pm ---Well all of that would make sense except... like I said, used the crappy rental stuff and always got high 200's  I'm not that good of a bowler either.  Bowling is a very easy game up until those bonus frames, if you can't get the regular sets without a 300 dollar ball, might I suggest curling.  ;)  Your analogy makes zero sense btw... the equivalent for golf would be rental clubs.  Mind you I don't play golf because it's too snooty, but I have seen people play really well with crap clubs.

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If you could consistently bowl high 200's with a plastic house ball you could be one of the top 5 bowlers in the U.S.

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He's probably bowling on the lanes with the bumpers...
dkersten:
This is a completely true story with zero exaggeration (honestly, not being sarcastic in the least).

I went ice fishing once.  I was 15.  I was in Minnesota with my father staying at a little cabin on a lake.  The lake was maybe a mile across and there were probably 30 guys out there fishing, mostly people who had nice cabins and lived year round on the lake.  It was late winter and the sun was shining and it was a nice day to be outside.  But I was bored so I grabbed one of those little poles and walked out on the ice.  I found a hole left by someone a few days before, put a worm on the hook and dropped it in the water.  A minute later I pulled a fish out.  I looked down the hole and there was a beam of sunlight about 10 feet down cutting across directly under my hole.  Flirting in and out of the beam I could see a whole school of fish swimming around.  I dropped the line back down and wiggled the lure in that beam.  It would flicker and BAM, a fish would bite.  I pulled 40 fish out in just under an hour.  By the time I finished I had an audience of 10+ old farts who had been sitting for hours with maybe 1 or 2 fish in their bucket.  Although they marveled at my overflowing bucket, I got bored and left.  The guys watching practically got into a fight over who got that hole after I walked away.

In my "extensive" ice fishing experience, it is the easiest thing in the world.  I can't imagine how anyone could want to do it because it is boring and insanely easy and fish don't taste good anyway.  It takes no skill and anyone can walk up and catch enough fish to eat for a week.

See, anyone can draw a conclusion.
Token:

--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on December 09, 2015, 03:49:19 am ---I've found this conversation fascinating.  I will say that it's a poor artist that blames his tools.  I've never bowled with a league before but I used to enjoy playing fairly regularly.  I used the crappy rented shoes and balls.  Managed to get in the high 200's every game.  I think people take it too seriously and that negatively effects their score.

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Howard, are you sure you aren't mistaken?

I know that pro tournament lanes are really over-oiled and so amateur scores can't be accurately compared to PBA scores, but still...

PBA Tour Records

--- Quote ---HIGH AVERAGE, SEASON
228.81, Jason Belmonte, 2012-13
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dkersten:

--- Quote from: Token on December 10, 2015, 03:28:25 pm ---I know that pro tournament lanes are really over-oiled and so amateur scores can't be accurately compared to PBA scores
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This is true, the patterns they oil for pro tournaments are VERY tough.  In typical house leagues the pattern allows for a lot of mistakes.  The outsides are dry and the middle is oily, so if you go too far out your ball will snap in harder, go too close to the middle and your ball won't react as much.  In a pro tourney it is either even or inverted, so you have to throw consistently within a few eighths of an inch to be competitive and have to know how to adjust almost instantly to any conditions.  Takes bowling dozens of games per day for many years.  A few teammates and league-mates over the years have tried to go pro but quickly discovered that a 240 average in league converts to about a 190 average in pro. 

Of course, that's the thing here, with a straight ball, oil doesn't matter.  You don't have to worry about hooking the ball.  So if Howard can regularly throw high 200's with a plastic house ball, he could dominate the pro circuit and easily take those half million dollar pro tourneys.
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