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BadMouth:
Is Romlister still functional since MAME/MESS have merged and the xml format has changed?

That's how I did all my pruning back at v.146.
It wasn't about saving hard drive space.
It was about having a smaller xml file that I could modify more quickly (for the purpose of adding non-mame arcade games to my MAME gamelist).
The original xml file is so huge that the computer would freeze for a long time after making any change or adding a game. (and that was before it incorporated MESS)

I plan to add a newer version just for Raiden 2, but it will be treated as a separate emulator and not disturb my current MAME installation.

Yenome:

--- Quote from: BadMouth on November 12, 2015, 01:25:48 pm ---Is Romlister still functional since MAME/MESS have merged and the xml format has changed?

That's how I did all my pruning back at v.146.
It wasn't about saving hard drive space.
It was about having a smaller xml file that I could modify more quickly (for the purpose of adding non-mame arcade games to my MAME gamelist).
The original xml file is so huge that the computer would freeze for a long time after making any change or adding a game. (and that was before it incorporated MESS)

I plan to add a newer version just for Raiden 2, but it will be treated as a separate emulator and not disturb my current MAME installation.

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Its been updated i used it last night i have version 031.2 there may even be a newer version out.

B2K24:

--- Quote from: yotsuya on November 12, 2015, 12:43:17 pm ---Hard drive space is cheap. I just dumped the complete set on my cab and use the FE to filter out what I need.

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OMG! someone in this thread actually has some common sense. Welcome to the club matey :applaud:

B2K24:

--- Quote from: dkersten on November 12, 2015, 12:17:21 pm ---I have some 30,000 different roms I "could" play, so if shaving it down to ~2,000 that I would *maybe* consider playing someday is "limiting", then yes, what Howard is talking about is limiting our options. But it's limiting our options down to only the things that are of even remote interest to us. Frankly I would rather be "limited" to just the arcade games that are playable than to have the flexibility to fire up that adult mahjong reel game (that doesn't even really work) if I ever get a wild hair up ---my bottom---.

Like Howard mentioned, the XML file is so damn long you have to get special text editors to even be able to load and edit it. If you use LEDBlinky, it has to read that file when you first enter your FE, so even if you only have 5 games on your cab and boot silently right into your FE, it can take upwards of 5 minutes (2 minutes on a loaded core i7 machine) after your FE is completely loaded before your LEDs come on because it is busy grinding through an XML file with tens of thousands of lines of data that is 90% completely irrelevant to this hobby.

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So you're having to do a bunch of horrible work because this FE author either won't update his FE to make things function more efficiently or development no longer occurs.

That sucks for you. I tried telling you better options exist but it seems you're stubborn in either your set ways or won't switch FE to something that's still actively developed and doesn't have such issues/problems.

dkersten:

--- Quote from: B2K24 on November 12, 2015, 05:46:15 pm ---
--- Quote from: dkersten on November 12, 2015, 12:17:21 pm ---I have some 30,000 different roms I "could" play, so if shaving it down to ~2,000 that I would *maybe* consider playing someday is "limiting", then yes, what Howard is talking about is limiting our options. But it's limiting our options down to only the things that are of even remote interest to us. Frankly I would rather be "limited" to just the arcade games that are playable than to have the flexibility to fire up that adult mahjong reel game (that doesn't even really work) if I ever get a wild hair up ---my bottom---.

Like Howard mentioned, the XML file is so damn long you have to get special text editors to even be able to load and edit it. If you use LEDBlinky, it has to read that file when you first enter your FE, so even if you only have 5 games on your cab and boot silently right into your FE, it can take upwards of 5 minutes (2 minutes on a loaded core i7 machine) after your FE is completely loaded before your LEDs come on because it is busy grinding through an XML file with tens of thousands of lines of data that is 90% completely irrelevant to this hobby.

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So you're having to do a bunch of horrible work because this FE author either won't update his FE to make things function more efficiently or development no longer occurs.

That sucks for you. I tried telling you better options exist but it seems you're stubborn in either your set ways or won't switch FE to something that's still actively developed and doesn't have such issues/problems.

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Still the best FE out there (IMHO of course), which is probably because nobody wants to make a better one because MAME/MESS has become so insanely bloated that you would have to pretty much come up with your own database and then tweak it every few months when a new version of MAME comes out. As stated earlier, Hyperspin is an overbloated piece of garbage that practically requires a high end computer just to run smoothly.

I'm sure you will come back and say that some other FE is the best, but of course it's subjective... next you will be telling me what the best arcade game is and how to play it to get the best enjoyment. Yet for some reason people like me are "limiting" ourselves. Starting to sound like a Steve Jobs pitch here: selling us on what YOU think is best for us rather than what WE really want.

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