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| dkersten:
--- Quote from: B2K24 on November 03, 2015, 12:35:26 pm ---You guys obsessing over only having games on your machine that you play is what's out of touch as you say. 30 GB is nothing in today's world and even good enough for your 250 GB 1999 HDD if you don't add CHDs to the mix. --- End quote --- It isn't a matter of storage as much as what 30 gb of small pieces of data really looks like. 16,000 files when you need 3,000 is just stupid. Most front ends build the "all games" list from everything you have in the folder. So to make a simple list of all ~3k games that you can play without the other ~13k titles of BS that you don't want, it takes a lot of time. clrmamepro helps to manage it all, but it isn't intuitive at all and doesn't work as well when you are working with incomplete sets because you can't just say "I am upgrading to .164 from .159, show me all the files I need to have a complete working set of just arcade games that can actually be played on a typical cabinet but without anything mahjong, gambling, adult, or mechanical" and press a button and have it all fixed up. |
| 8BitMonk:
--- Quote from: dkersten on November 03, 2015, 02:29:31 pm ---It isn't a matter of storage as much as what 30 gb of small pieces of data really looks like. 16,000 files when you need 3,000 is just stupid. Most front ends build the "all games" list from everything you have in the folder. So to make a simple list of all ~3k games that you can play without the other ~13k titles of BS that you don't want, it takes a lot of time. clrmamepro helps to manage it all, but it isn't intuitive at all and doesn't work as well when you are working with incomplete sets because you can't just say "I am upgrading to .164 from .159, show me all the files I need to have a complete working set of just arcade games that can actually be played on a typical cabinet but without anything mahjong, gambling, adult, or mechanical" and press a button and have it all fixed up. --- End quote --- What he said. --- Quote from: B2K24 on November 03, 2015, 11:33:43 am ---You're doing many things wrong and are unorganized then. Even if you have many sets in many different locations, you simply update by using Clrmamepro. Scan + fix and then use the rebuilder. Process only takes minutes. Copying the entire set over at each update or when you want to update is the wrong way to be doing things. --- End quote --- You're missing the point. Clrmame does nothing to help facilitate creating a custom romset based on user selected criteria (ie. nplayers, mfr., controls, working or not etc.). When a person wants to update, duplicate or change the contents of a build in any way they either have to manually sift through the full list of games or copy the whole thing. Even after you've manually created a subset of roms you have to do the whole thing over again when a new version of mame comes out because a rom may be renamed or have a new dependancy, new games were added etc. so subset isn't accurate anymore. It should be easier to pick out a subset of rom you want based on criteria you chose either before or after downloading them. There is no tool that I currently know of that does this. |
| B2K24:
You're the one missing the point. You and everyone else don't need to create a custom romset. Instead simply create your own custom game listing or favorites listing that fully customizable and can be altered/changed anytime you want. Done! |
| Slippyblade:
--- Quote from: B2K24 on November 03, 2015, 05:38:07 pm ---You're the one missing the point. You and everyone else don't need to create a custom romset. Instead simply create your own custom game listing or favorites listing that fully customizable and can be altered/changed anytime you want. Done! --- End quote --- Nope. You are being willfully ignorant and frankly, sounding like X2. Most of us don't want to be shuffling around a 40gb archive that is mostly crap that CAN'T be run on an arcade cabinet. Not to mention, there is no reason at all to need a sizable HD in a dedicated cabinet when a $30, 60gb SSD would work just fine if the damn ROMset made any sense. If YOU want to deal with 40gb of dead weight, that is YOUR right. Knock yourself out. The rest of us want something easily sortable, easily trimable, and smaller. |
| Howard_Casto:
You tell him Slips! ;) ;) I'm not trying to make anyone angry at all, I always appreciate what the mame devs give us, but the doesn't mean I'm going to pretend that there aren't problems with the current system just to spare feelings. You guys have made us a wonderful library and we are very grateful BUT.... (Going with the analogy) You don't have sections to said library.... we have no option to browse unless we are willing to look through every single book. You put the books that are in perfect condition and are quite readable on the same shelf with incomplete, unreadable books... some of which might be repaired in the future and some of which will most likely NEVER be readable. Nobody is saying you should burn those books but perhaps put those in storage in the back so people know they have issues. You admittedly love the mere portions of the incomplete books but for some reason think others will be just as fascinated with them. Don't get me wrong, we can learn a ton from those bits and pieces, but the majority of the patrons (gasp!) just came into the library to read a book. A while back the library added films and tv shows to the collection. Wonderful! Except you only kind of sort of made a section just for the films and the tv shows are thrown on the same shelves as the books in book jackets. It's just confusing the heck out of us and we can't understand why you get angry when we mention it. I mean we think it's a pretty valid concern... you need a projection machine for the films, or a tv for the shows and again, most of us just want to read books. I'll remind you that when MAME was just an arcade emulator and didn't have consoles, a PCs and pocket calculators and EM and pinball and video poker and slot machines I was on the OTHER side of this argument. I always suggested that people just filter their rom list instead. That was when that argument made sense though... bandwidth speeds were about what they are now and nearly everything in mame was playable or likely to be playable in the near future. We also hadn't hit that threshold where games with 100mb+ "roms" were the majority of new additions and the majority of those weren't playable. I think at that point MAME was a whopping 8 gigs, chds included. I mean I'm pretty excited about wacky gator so you can't accuse me of only caring about the arcade games... I would just like to see things organized a little better. But I don't want to argue or get people upset or anything. I'll just make a quiet announcement in the software section when I have something that I think would be helpful. |
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