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Re: MortalKab 4 player DIY slim arcade cabinet/ Finished / Update?
« Reply #360 on: January 24, 2021, 03:12:14 am »
Took the panel and the dremel to the basement to make some dust. Cut out pockets for the joystick led's.
I then cleaned up the mess and painted the bare wood.

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« Reply #361 on: January 24, 2021, 03:23:13 am »
Luckily my Ultimarc order got here super fast and started laying out the buttons and taming the rgb wiring. I decided to coil the excess rather than custom cut all the wires because I would of had to order all the disconnects.
This took me forever. Probably 3 days and changed my mind several times of how to map everything out.
I only have 2.5" of clearance under the panel in the front and about 3" in the rear so care had to be taken that everything clears.
Not 100% happy with it but better than last time and had alot of excess wire to herd into spots.
Joystick leds were glued in with e6000 and temporarily held in place with aluminum tape and shims to keep in place untill glue cured. I have some 28mm thinwall polycarbonate tubing im still waiting on. Going to cut 1/2" lengths to press into the joystick holes after sanding the inside to diffuse and transfer the light. The clear washers will go above letting light through.... Same as chance did on his flynn cab except im using a single rgb instead of x2 per joystick.

I didnt take any button unboxing pics.  :embarassed: Just a balltop pic.....waited 2 weeks for those and the clear dust washers to arrive.
I then dismantled my 2 jlf sticks, and 2 seimitsu clone sticks. They got cleaned,greased, cherry switches, extended shafts, 6# springs, 1mm oversize actuators, the jlfs got octagon gates, and of course they all got batt tops.
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Re: MortalKab 4 player DIY slim arcade cabinet/ Finished / Update?
« Reply #362 on: January 24, 2021, 03:40:54 am »
The U-trak was a mess! Took an entire evening to dismantle...soak, toothbrush scrub all the gunk out, scrub all the shafts and bearings, etc.
The u-trak rgb board was encrusted and the wires corroded off. Had to soak in 90% iso alcohol and scrub with toothbrush.
Had to sacrifice a spare rgb button for its wiring and connector. Soldered on the new pigtail and re-assembled the trackball.
Hey.... It rolls now  ::)
Also after 5 years this cab finally got a kickplate  :cheers:
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Re: MortalKab 4 player DIY slim arcade cabinet/ Finished / Update?
« Reply #363 on: January 24, 2021, 03:48:38 am »
Finally get the control panel done which felt like it took forever. Ipac4 hooked up after tearing apart about 50ft of cat5 cables for the wiring. All power and usb cables ran. I did skimp and used premade daisy chain grounds..... I just wanted it done at that point. :dunno
Was a pain to keep everything able to clear a control box barely 2.5" deep. Next cable will be simpler, 2 player, and deeper to run IL/ happ sticks.

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Re: MortalKab 4 player DIY slim arcade cabinet/ Finished / Update?
« Reply #364 on: January 24, 2021, 03:56:58 am »
Ordered a bunch of different sized pc fan dust filter plates and installed in all vent holes. Also installed a high pressure low rpm ventilation fan for the bottom of the cab where the pc resides.

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« Reply #365 on: January 24, 2021, 04:07:42 am »
Today I reinstalled the control panel, ran my coin door signal wires, ran a socket for the vent fan' and buttoned up a few other loose ends.

Rebuilt is done!

Well... I have to replace a barrel lock on the keyboard tray door and reinstall it tomorrow but now the real nightmare begins..... Software 😣😒😡

Going with launchbox/bigbox this time so should be easier.

I have a 8tb drive i been compiling for years ready to go.
Problem is i configured it to run on a crt box tv and scraped that setup so need to reformat the pc then drop this extra gpu in it and then go through all the emulator cfg files and reset them to default and hope they play nice.
I see many weeks of emulator configs 😣

Thinking about ordering one of them arcade 1up mortal kombat barstools and also thinking about changing the marquee to a replica mk3 ultimate marquee.

Anxious to see this cab all lit up!  :applaud:

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« Reply #366 on: January 24, 2021, 09:31:48 am »
That is some insane wiring.

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« Reply #367 on: January 24, 2021, 01:55:46 pm »
That is some insane wiring.
It almost drove me insane  :lol

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« Reply #368 on: January 26, 2021, 07:38:38 pm »
Spent an hour last night putting a better cpu cooler in this pc with plans to overclock this 3rd gen i5 then realized this didnt have the Z series overclockable motherboard in it that I put it in a different system I built a month or so back  :banghead:

I didnt feel like rebuilding both systems and reinstalling windows just to be able to overclock so said screw it.

Got the pc done and added wires from the power switch pins on motherboard to connect to the hidden button on the cab that turns the cab on. I did end up installing a usb hub under my slide out keyboard tray but just to power mouse,keyboard, xbox controller wireless transmitter. Everything in the control panel will plug into pc directly.
I bunched the 4 control panel usb ends together at the back of the cab and used 4 short 2ft usb extensions to feed into cab bottom where pc is. This way the control panel and everything connected to it can be unplugged at the top rear section of the cab so the panel can be easily removed next time I move it.

Pc is in and powered up....updating windows now then comes the software journey  :embarassed:
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Re: MortalKab 4 player DIY slim arcade cabinet/ Finished / Update?
« Reply #369 on: January 26, 2021, 07:47:22 pm »
Im 100% sold on the led floodlights! They are soooo much brighter than strip lights and they have all the modes and can be custom programmed and they actually save what state they were in for next time they are powered on.
Such a clean,vivid, pure color.....the pics dont capture how good they look!

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Re: MortalKab 4 player DIY slim arcade cabinet/ Finished / Update?
« Reply #370 on: January 26, 2021, 09:23:26 pm »
Well .... Looks like the samsung led tv in this took a crap. Red led comes on but no image on the screen, connected hdmi to a spare monitor and its outputting fine.
 :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Probably just order a 32" monitor friday

So that sucks

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Re: MortalKab 4 player DIY slim arcade cabinet/ Finished / Update?
« Reply #371 on: January 27, 2021, 05:52:31 pm »
So..... I ordered a 32" LG ips 1440p monitor last night.

Wanna hear something funny?

The tv works.  :dunno
I guess while it was windows updating it lost signal and shut itself off.
I tried the power button and also this new remote I bought on ebay for it.
Turns out the remote doesnt work at all so a bad remote cost me $300 because you wanna hear something else funny??
Amazon says its too late to cancel order.

All i can do is laugh or id loose it.
Oh well maybe ill make a 32" virtual pinball with the old one.

Anyway..... All rgbs are working  :applaud:
Now just to figure out this ledblinky

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« Reply #372 on: January 28, 2021, 07:06:53 am »
I’m sure you will find a use for the 32” TV...  the LEDs are really bright - so now you are programming them to only light up for specific controls?

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« Reply #373 on: January 28, 2021, 12:35:04 pm »
Ill have to configure all the different lighting effect scripts for different situations.
You can make custom lighting animations that happen when the cab is powered on, then you can have it do something else when it loads into your frontend, cycling through systems or categories, when selecting a game, etc.....

Ledblinky has an included config file for alot of mame games that once you load the game ledblinky will only light up the buttons used for that game and it will light them in the colors they were on the actual arcade cab.
Alot to figure out since ive never messed with it before.

Right now im trying to get my 8tb launchbox drive to play nice since i had it configured to push 240p with super resolutions through a transcoder to a crt.

Im finding more and more config files and folders that i edited and teying to remember what i changed.
Im now searching the net for posts i made on forums to remember what the hell i did  :laugh2: :banghead:

Once i get majority of launchbox and emulators working correctly again then i need to start messing with ledblinky and map out my control panel and start configuring custom animations

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Re: MortalKab 4 player DIY slim arcade cabinet/ Finished / Update?
« Reply #374 on: January 29, 2021, 12:20:53 pm »
Polycarb tubing FINALLY showed up. 1 1/8" OD. X. 1/16" wall thickness .... My holes were cut with a 28mm bit but couldnt find metric sized tubing so was worried it would be a hair too large....Perfect fit! Time to cut some tubing.
I hope a single led will be enough with sanded/difussed inner section.

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« Reply #375 on: January 29, 2021, 01:47:51 pm »
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« Reply #376 on: January 29, 2021, 02:35:42 pm »
tubes should be good, I'd scuff them up with some corse sand paper so you can't see though them and they catch more light. Are you just gonna set the cuts of tube in there resting under he dust washers? or hold them in with some sort of adhesive?

They are a snug press fit. I just tested one and im going to have to paint the inside of the bore white. Since its black its making white look purple and the colors are off.
But I got a bigger worry than that now.
My first led64 board is acting crazy.

I had both set to id1 and id2 in the ultimarc software.....

Mapped out my ledblinky input map

Was playing with animations last night and everything was fine.


Then i decided to try to make a custom script in the pacled64 program since that is what handles the led's untill the front end loads up and i wanted them all to just come on and fade to white.
The pacled64 program is about as unintuitive as it gets and the guide is vague.
Couldnt figure it out so restored factory script back on both of them but now they dont even come on when the pc is turned on.

In ledblinky the 2nd led64 acts fine but the first one goes crazy flickering randomly.
Ugggg


EDIT......... Neverming.....when i restored the led boards it unassigned their ID's

Thats fixed. Now i have to figure out if i can wrap part of the outer tube with some white vinyl or paint the bores.
I think either way is going to make a tight press fit for the tubes even worse

Heres a partial test fit. Looks bad. I should of went with acrylic i think it transfers more light and might not of gave an off color
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« Reply #377 on: January 29, 2021, 05:14:46 pm »
I ended up sticking all kinds of white material in there to see what looked best.
Opaque plastic, white vinyl, even some white velcro which looked cool but didnt have but one small piece.

I ended up hitting the inside of the polycarb tubes with a light coat of flat white and left a window for the led to shrine through and i think it will be best bet to match my buttons.

Note... They are still not pushed down all the way yet... This was just for testing
In the pics- left side is just scuffed inside of tube and right side is after painting white.
A little dimmer but much cleaner color I think
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« Reply #378 on: January 29, 2021, 09:31:33 pm »
Did some vinyl cutting

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Re: MortalKab 4 player DIY slim arcade cabinet/ Finished / Update?
« Reply #379 on: January 30, 2021, 12:28:57 am »
Just waiting on the new 1440p monitor so I can put the tinted glass back in.

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« Reply #380 on: January 30, 2021, 02:23:20 am »
Did some vinyl cutting

That's pretty sick man.  Nice work!

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« Reply #381 on: January 30, 2021, 07:49:45 pm »
Did some vinyl cutting

That's pretty sick man.  Nice work!
Thanks.... I got some laser etched ones coming

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« Reply #382 on: February 13, 2021, 05:21:24 pm »
Screwed up the firmware somehow in one of the led64s trying to write a custom animation script for it for when the pc is first powered on untill ledblinky kicks in.
Heres a pic of me testing it on my other pc. Had to reflash factory firmware on it.
They are working fine now and leaving them alone.
Ive been moving my launchbox drive over to a build on a ssd so it will load much faster and ledblinky will take over much quicker.
Wrote some pretty long animation scripts in ledblinky and have them plugged into launchbox/bigbox and working/looking good.
Ill post a video soon but still working on my launchbox build. Just imported 26 systems in past few days. Got a few more to go, then still need to import arcade and windows game files.
Alot of good emulation options since I last setup a drive. Really liking swanstation and redream emulators.
And retroarch has so many good working cores now I think I imported over 20 systems before needing a standalone emulator and that was mame to run cd-i. Mame and redream are only standalones ive needed for consoles but have yet to import ps2 and ps3


Ohhhh!........ I got my 1440p ips LG monitor and it blows the tv i had in here away!
Whats most amazing is input lag. I notice hardly any at all! I dont know what theresponse time is on this display but ive never played emulation where there was no lag like this.....and dont need to use run ahead in retroarch at all! Totally worth it just for that alone but the image blows the old samsung tv away too and the crt shader im using in mame with brightness all the way up looks great!

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« Reply #383 on: March 14, 2021, 06:13:54 pm »
I just made an account on this website just to make the comment...
Outstanding work!!!!!  Alot of time, effort, trial/error and money went into your build. I am in love with it.

There is 10 pages of data, I was wonder if have you compiled everything into a parts list, dimensions etc?

I just recently mod'ed an arcade1up for a friend that he had got. It was a Golden Tee unit. Moded it with joysticks and buttons, put a RPI4 in it.
First time involved in this type of project and was in love with it.
The end result was great... Almost 40, it brought me back to my childhood of going to the local arcade center.

I want to build something for myself now but i don't want to have to buy a junk arcade1up kit from walmart, build it then mod it.  I do have an advantage in my goals though, I have a 2d c02 lasercutting machine with a 48"x48"  bed at my disposal that I could use to cut various parts.


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« Reply #384 on: March 20, 2021, 11:11:53 am »
Looks great man!  Question for you.... you like that CP layout?  About ready to start mine and think that's the style I want to go with.  If you were building again, would you go the same route?

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« Reply #385 on: March 20, 2021, 02:53:05 pm »
Honestly if I were to do it over, I would stick with same panel design but would drop players 3 and 4 and instead add a third dedicated 4 way stick and a couple buttons off to the left that were just piggyback connected to player one joystick for all the older 4 way games.
4 players Is cool but honestly over the past 5-6 years those player 3 and 4 controls have seen maybe 2 hours of use total.
Theres only so many 4 player games and once you run through it once friends,kids,etc usually had enough.

The 7 button layout for players 1 and 2 have been fine. At times I tried to map controls for later gen systems and kinda wished I put an 8th button but then once you try playing these games on arcade controls you tend to switch to controllers for those systems anyways.
Ive thought about adding plunger buttons to the sides for pinball games but figure if I get that involved with pinball games then ill just build a virtual pinball machine.

So.... Yeah really I would of just went with 2 players with a 3rd 4way stick..... But on your first cab its hard to fight the urge to add everything possible, im guilty of this when others told me same thing lol.

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« Reply #386 on: March 21, 2021, 03:19:04 pm »
Do you have the dimensions for the control panel ?

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« Reply #387 on: March 21, 2021, 05:50:05 pm »




Just funnin’ ya. Search for “Jarret Space Paranoids”. Read all the warnings about the panel as well.


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« Reply #388 on: March 22, 2021, 01:12:44 pm »
What do you recommend for a 4 player control panel then ?

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« Reply #389 on: March 22, 2021, 01:16:26 pm »
Look at the Konami 4 player panel (TMNT, Simpsons, etc). Tried and true.


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« Reply #390 on: March 22, 2021, 02:03:04 pm »
Is it the actually shape of the panel or the layout of all the buttons or both that you choose this style for a 4 player panel ?

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« Reply #391 on: March 22, 2021, 02:23:41 pm »
Is it the actually shape of the panel or the layout of all the buttons or both that you choose this style for a 4 player panel ?
Both. It’s an actual design used in actual arcades on actual machines by actual people who put real money into these machines.


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« Reply #392 on: March 22, 2021, 03:04:22 pm »
Look at the Konami 4 player panel (TMNT, Simpsons, etc). Tried and true.


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So a rectangle with a couple buttons?  ;D

If someone is restoring an original cab then Im all about keeping things pure and original. Thats not what this build thread is about. If someone wanted a konami style cab then they could just buy a konami style cab.
Not sure why your discouraging people to be different and build what they want when your signature says "build what you dig"

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« Reply #393 on: March 22, 2021, 03:41:12 pm »
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Not sure why your discouraging people to be different and build what they want when your signature says "build what you dig"

Somebody asked him what he would recommend.

That is what he did.

Not complicated.

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Re: MortalKab 4 player DIY slim arcade cabinet/ Finished / Update?
« Reply #394 on: March 22, 2021, 04:40:10 pm »
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Not sure why your discouraging people to be different and build what they want when your signature says "build what you dig"

Somebody asked him what he would recommend.

That is what he did.

Not complicated.
Exactly. I really don’t care what he builds. But he asked me why. So I told him why.

I’d rather people build stuff that is sound from an arcade gameplay principle rather than what will get the Bros excited for 5 minutes in the gameroom before they get bored and move on.


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Re: MortalKab 4 player DIY slim arcade cabinet/ Finished / Update?
« Reply #395 on: March 22, 2021, 05:05:43 pm »
We all know mr yotsua is the forum purist.  :lol

Just giving a little sheet back. Its all in good fun.
Didnt mean to come off harsh.

It just felt like an attack against my control panel decision, and discouraging for others who want something not so traditional when its worked perfectly fine for me and many others.

This was the design that actually made me commit and want to build my first cab.
If when I asked about it getting into this hobby and had recieved responses that made me feel it was a bad layout or design I probably would of never jumped in this hobby and then would of never developed my interests into arcade cabs, crt's and original hardware console restorations.
I completely agree peoples opinions are a granted right and welcomed but when you go to a thread that is based on a nontraditional design just to compare it with an overly complicated battleship print...... Im just stating my opinion that I think its discouraging to people who may come here thinking "this is the design I want" and would of commited but then be told its a bad design and never get into this hobby.

Theres been dozens of people get into this hobby based off this design that ive sent to Chance for plans and now im offering the control panel template to people to not burden chance so much. Ive been trying to get younger generations interested in this hobby on reddit and other platforms and sending them to this thread and chances thread and to come here to just smear mud on the design is counter productive in my opinion.

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« Reply #396 on: March 22, 2021, 05:54:36 pm »
We all know mr yotsua is the forum purist.  :lol

Just giving a little sheet back. Its all in good fun.
Didnt mean to come off harsh.

It just felt like an attack against my control panel decision, and discouraging for others who want something not so traditional when its worked perfectly fine for me and many others.

This was the design that actually made me commit and want to build my first cab.
If when I asked about it getting into this hobby and had recieved responses that made me feel it was a bad layout or design I probably would of never jumped in this hobby and then would of never developed my interests into arcade cabs, crt's and original hardware console restorations.
I completely agree peoples opinions are a granted right and welcomed but when you go to a thread that is based on a nontraditional design just to compare it with an overly complicated battleship print...... Im just stating my opinion that I think its discouraging to people who may come here thinking "this is the design I want" and would of commited but then be told its a bad design and never get into this hobby.

Theres been dozens of people get into this hobby based off this design that ive sent to Chance for plans and now im offering the control panel template to people to not burden chance so much. Ive been trying to get younger generations interested in this hobby on reddit and other platforms and sending them to this thread and chances thread and to come here to just smear mud on the design is counter productive in my opinion.
Well put, but if I think this is a bad design, should I not say so? Should I stay quiet if I think ergonomics and gameplay can be compromised by the joystick and person placement in this design? And does my silence let this poor design get perpetuated? See, that’s my dilemma.

Normally, I don’t say anything, but this guy has been asking for plans in 4 or 5 different threads.

To be honest, I’ve never even looked at this thread, so my comments to this gentleman isn’t a knock against your cab. It’s more trying to open a new member’s eyes to different four player options. People see a picture of Flynn’s Arcade and think that’s what they want and don’t take other things into consideration when looking at 4 player control panels. Hell, you yourself even admitted you would drop players 3&4 (and I commend you for your honesty). My comments I really meant to say, “Slow down and think about it before you commit.”

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Re: MortalKab 4 player DIY slim arcade cabinet/ Finished / Update?
« Reply #397 on: March 22, 2021, 05:59:41 pm »
I can't believe people jump in and try for this style cab on their first go.  It's incredibly complex under the hood.

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Re: MortalKab 4 player DIY slim arcade cabinet/ Finished / Update?
« Reply #398 on: March 22, 2021, 06:36:12 pm »
We all know mr yotsua is the forum purist.  :lol

Just giving a little sheet back. Its all in good fun.
Didnt mean to come off harsh.

It just felt like an attack against my control panel decision, and discouraging for others who want something not so traditional when its worked perfectly fine for me and many others.

This was the design that actually made me commit and want to build my first cab.
If when I asked about it getting into this hobby and had recieved responses that made me feel it was a bad layout or design I probably would of never jumped in this hobby and then would of never developed my interests into arcade cabs, crt's and original hardware console restorations.
I completely agree peoples opinions are a granted right and welcomed but when you go to a thread that is based on a nontraditional design just to compare it with an overly complicated battleship print...... Im just stating my opinion that I think its discouraging to people who may come here thinking "this is the design I want" and would of commited but then be told its a bad design and never get into this hobby.

Theres been dozens of people get into this hobby based off this design that ive sent to Chance for plans and now im offering the control panel template to people to not burden chance so much. Ive been trying to get younger generations interested in this hobby on reddit and other platforms and sending them to this thread and chances thread and to come here to just smear mud on the design is counter productive in my opinion.
Well put, but if I think this is a bad design, should I not say so? Should I stay quiet if I think ergonomics and gameplay can be compromised by the joystick and person placement in this design? And does my silence let this poor design get perpetuated? See, that’s my dilemma.

Normally, I don’t say anything, but this guy has been asking for plans in 4 or 5 different threads.

To be honest, I’ve never even looked at this thread, so my comments to this gentleman isn’t a knock against your cab. It’s more trying to open a new member’s eyes to different four player options. People see a picture of Flynn’s Arcade and think that’s what they want and don’t take other things into consideration when looking at 4 player control panels. Hell, you yourself even admitted you would drop players 3&4 (and I commend you for your honesty). My comments I really meant to say, “Slow down and think about it before you commit.”

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Honestly.... Ive had 4 players on my original vendetta cab and then on this cab and there was no difference in the crampness feeling of 4 people huddled infront of either one.

I would change to 2 player with a 3rd piggybacked 4way stick but just for the simple fact of not playing with 4 people often, it has nothing to do with feeling cramped or bad placement.

When my kids were younger we used 3 and 4 players quite a bit but now they are teenagers and cant be bothered and I dont have many people over ever so for me personally as the only one who uses the cab I would drop players 3 and 4 for those reasons. If someone is making a mancave/ bar build and will have buddies over often then 4 players would be perfectly fine with this design. If it were bad i would be honest about it.

You recommend the konami layout over this layout which ive literally played both side by side and can say honestly from experience there was no difference in crampness feeling. Sure you probably have way more experience than me with original cabs but youve probably never used a cab with this layout and so are just telling people its bad without experience with it. Your standing shoulder to shoulder on both designs neither felt any different.

Here you can see the konami cab incase you question my honesty.


You have been on this thread before. Back in 2015 when I originally built this cab. You were very openly critical then too but i was new and took some of your recommendations to heart and actually changed my whole artwork design from scratch starting over which you still kinda shunned.
Its ok.... Your highly opinionated and vocal about it.... I accept that and have buddies like that so know you dont mean any harm and just trying to help, sometimes keeping quiet dont hurt either though like if someone shows a pic of there kid and you think its ugly.... Do you tell them that?Lol

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« Reply #399 on: March 22, 2021, 06:40:24 pm »
We all know mr yotsua is the forum purist.  :lol

Just giving a little sheet back. Its all in good fun.
Didnt mean to come off harsh.

It just felt like an attack against my control panel decision, and discouraging for others who want something not so traditional when its worked perfectly fine for me and many others.

This was the design that actually made me commit and want to build my first cab.
If when I asked about it getting into this hobby and had recieved responses that made me feel it was a bad layout or design I probably would of never jumped in this hobby and then would of never developed my interests into arcade cabs, crt's and original hardware console restorations.
I completely agree peoples opinions are a granted right and welcomed but when you go to a thread that is based on a nontraditional design just to compare it with an overly complicated battleship print...... Im just stating my opinion that I think its discouraging to people who may come here thinking "this is the design I want" and would of commited but then be told its a bad design and never get into this hobby.

Theres been dozens of people get into this hobby based off this design that ive sent to Chance for plans and now im offering the control panel template to people to not burden chance so much. Ive been trying to get younger generations interested in this hobby on reddit and other platforms and sending them to this thread and chances thread and to come here to just smear mud on the design is counter productive in my opinion.
Well put, but if I think this is a bad design, should I not say so? Should I stay quiet if I think ergonomics and gameplay can be compromised by the joystick and person placement in this design? And does my silence let this poor design get perpetuated? See, that’s my dilemma.

Normally, I don’t say anything, but this guy has been asking for plans in 4 or 5 different threads.

To be honest, I’ve never even looked at this thread, so my comments to this gentleman isn’t a knock against your cab. It’s more trying to open a new member’s eyes to different four player options. People see a picture of Flynn’s Arcade and think that’s what they want and don’t take other things into consideration when looking at 4 player control panels. Hell, you yourself even admitted you would drop players 3&4 (and I commend you for your honesty). My comments I really meant to say, “Slow down and think about it before you commit.”

:cheers:


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Honestly.... Ive had 4 players on my original vendetta cab and then on this cab and there was no difference in the crampness feeling of 4 people huddled infront of either one.

I would change to 2 player with a 3rd piggybacked 4way stick but just for the simple fact of not playing with 4 people often, it has nothing to do with feeling cramped or bad placement.

When my kids were younger we used 3 and 4 players quite a bit but now they are teenagers and cant be bothered and I dont have many people over ever so for me personally as the only one who uses the cab I would drop players 3 and 4 for those reasons. If someone is making a mancave/ bar build and will have buddies over often then 4 players would be perfectly fine with this design. If it were bad i would be honest about it.

You recommend the konami layout over this layout which ive literally played both side by side and can say honestly from experience there was no difference in crampness feeling. Sure you probably have way more experience than me with original cabs but youve probably never used a cab with this layout and so are just telling people its bad without experience with it. Your standing shoulder to shoulder on both designs neither felt any different.

Here you can see the konami cab incase you question my honesty.


You have been on this thread before. Back in 2015 when I originally built this cab. You were very openly critical then too but i was new and took some of your recommendations to heart and actually changed my whole artwork design from scratch starting over which you still kinda shunned.
Its ok.... Your highly opinionated and vocal about it.... I accept that and have buddies like that so know you dont mean any harm and just trying to help, sometimes keeping quiet dont hurt either though like if someone shows a pic of there kid and you think its ugly.... Do you tell them that?Lole
I had to go back and look, I guess you’re right. I guess I just don’t remember reading this thread (it was almost 6 years ago). Again, the only reason I commented on it was because the guy has been posting in four - five different threads looking for plans.

It depends, is my friend asking me if I think his kid is ugly? Or is he just showing me a picture? :)


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