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Re: Right to be forgotten
« Reply #40 on: February 16, 2015, 10:19:36 am »
I did, and after you asked me not to a second time I refrained. I'm of a mixed mind on this issue personally. (I also will not be restoring LT's posts unless he tells me it's OK to do so.)

Yes, you refrained, but you also did not go back and remove the posts.  IIRC there's ~700 of them out there.




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Re: Right to be forgotten
« Reply #41 on: February 16, 2015, 10:49:32 am »
Fair cop. I'd forgotten.
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Re: Right to be forgotten
« Reply #42 on: February 16, 2015, 10:57:35 am »
SMF (the forum software) has the necessary option "Maximum time after posting to allow edit", the question is whether it should be set. An hour should be enough even for X2 to spellcheck his walls of text.

When we set that in the past, people complained about not being able to update old posts for ongoing projects. I'm open to it being either way as people prefer.
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Re: Right to be forgotten
« Reply #43 on: February 16, 2015, 11:00:29 am »
Leave it so people can update stuff.  People acting in this way are few and far between.  No point making things more difficult for people who want to be here.

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Re: Thanks for the fish LT!
« Reply #44 on: February 16, 2015, 11:00:36 am »
Personally, I've been here 5 years and have only seen someone do it twice. And one of those culprits is already back, so I'm not sure what the point was...
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Re: Right to be forgotten
« Reply #45 on: February 16, 2015, 11:07:08 am »
Leave it so people can update stuff.  People acting in this way are few and far between.  No point making things more difficult for people who want to be here.
I agree, especially with as long as it takes some people to finish their projects.
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Re: Right to be forgotten
« Reply #46 on: February 16, 2015, 11:24:24 am »
I am open to suggestions on any changes to make. I'll add a couple of things to the mix:

I have changed people's usernames before at their request when they've wanted to scrub their Internet presence. In that case the content remained, but the name no longer related.

I have modified or removed very old posts before when someone had a similar situation but no longer had access, again at their request. I was able to do so in a way that minimized the effect on the thread.



Since it sounds like you are willing to work out alternative solutions and ultimately honor requests like this, I am all for putting down some limitations to the account as long as they don't inconvenience regular use.

I have come to the realization that that there are far more people than I thought who lurk here, who learn from projects and ideas and who study the information we put up. Offering alternative solutions to deleting every single post might be the best thing we can do. I met someone on the street the other day who after talking arcade cabinets for 5 minutes I found out he knew me, knew my projects, knew the projects of a lot of members here. and was excited to start his own project.

Are there capabilities to do something like limit the number of edits per week/day/hour? I'd think that 15 edits per hour maximum wouldn't affect anyone unless they are going through a mass deletion, or very, very, very pedantic.

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Re: Right to be forgotten
« Reply #47 on: February 16, 2015, 11:39:12 am »
Not finding a mod for that so far. Will keep looking for options.
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Re: Right to be forgotten
« Reply #48 on: February 16, 2015, 11:48:29 am »
I met someone on the street the other day who after talking arcade cabinets for 5 minutes I found out he knew me, knew my projects, knew the projects of a lot of members here. and was excited to start his own project.

I had a similar experience, only mine was after checking into a hotel I ran into the receptionist later that day and she informed me that she really liked my arcade cabinets and was now following me on youtube.  I think she saw my eyes go a little wide so she started into the whole loud laughing "I'm not a stalker" routine - as I started backing towards the door.  The only difference between a creepy stalker and and a stranger taking a friendly interest into your web presence after initial introductions is sexual attraction.  She was solidly in the Stalker camp. 

The fact that it should be some kind of corporate ethic violation to google the guests of your establishment aside, that totally creeped me out.  I'm for my anonymity.  I just need to do a better job of cultivating that anonymity. 

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Re: Right to be forgotten
« Reply #49 on: February 16, 2015, 12:00:12 pm »
Cool story, bro.

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Re: Right to be forgotten
« Reply #50 on: February 16, 2015, 12:02:57 pm »
So would you wear your BYOAC shirt?

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Re: Right to be forgotten
« Reply #51 on: February 16, 2015, 12:07:04 pm »
Cool story, bro.

 ::)

Isn't it?  I like to think so.  I like lots of things.  Mostly booze but some wines as well.  I also like sharing.  Sharing is caring. 

So would you wear your BYOAC shirt?

Sure.  Like I said, I need to do a better job a cultivating that anonymity.  Not that I WILL do a better job.  Besides the t-shirt is cool.  And double besides maybe some hotties will want to be like BYOAC groupies or something.  Triple besides - group Ts!!!!

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Re: Right to be forgotten
« Reply #52 on: February 16, 2015, 12:08:46 pm »
I read that story in Penthouse Forum,  only it ended with you showing the receptionist your joystick. Or was that not you?
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Re: Right to be forgotten
« Reply #53 on: February 16, 2015, 12:51:40 pm »
Le Chuck is your real name?  Or the name you register at hotels with? TopJimmyCooks is not any part of my name although it's not hard to link it up with my name, especially in the Pinball community.   

Just don't understand how a desk clerk made the connection. 

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Re: Right to be forgotten
« Reply #54 on: February 16, 2015, 12:52:56 pm »
He likes to travel anonymously and registers as Le Chuck.
« Last Edit: February 16, 2015, 12:58:25 pm by yotsuya »
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Re: Right to be forgotten
« Reply #55 on: February 16, 2015, 12:53:51 pm »
I guess i should stop registering for hotels and trade shows as Le Chuck.  My bad. 

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Re: Right to be forgotten
« Reply #56 on: February 16, 2015, 12:56:28 pm »
I know LC's real name, so for laughs I Googled it. The second link is his YouTube videos. So yeah, she is totally stalking you, bro.
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Re: Right to be forgotten
« Reply #57 on: February 16, 2015, 03:20:24 pm »
Obviously Slippyblade isn't my real name, but I've used it for going on 20 years now so it would take zero effort to link my online activity to my RL self.  Granted, I do have a nick that I use when I want to be anon and it uses burner email accounts.  That one doesn't get used often.

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Re: Right to be forgotten
« Reply #58 on: February 16, 2015, 03:23:19 pm »
Real name to YouTube to here via the comments. It's a two click connection.

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Re: Right to be forgotten
« Reply #59 on: February 16, 2015, 03:58:39 pm »
   What PBJ did was different, A self imposed smart bombing of his account done with tech in mind more than likely done all at once with no turning back... In the case of whats his face that was a long slow "I"ll fix you guys"

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Re: Right to be forgotten
« Reply #60 on: February 16, 2015, 04:01:45 pm »
   What PBJ did was different, A self imposed smart bombing of his account done with tech in mind more than likely done all at once with no turning back... In the case of whats his face that was a long slow "I"ll fix you guys"

You're too sensitive. Aaaaaand of course you'd side with PBJ since you're just a sock puppet of his.

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Re: Right to be forgotten
« Reply #61 on: February 16, 2015, 04:04:33 pm »
   What PBJ did was different, A self imposed smart bombing of his account done with tech in mind more than likely done all at once with no turning back... In the case of whats his face that was a long slow "I"ll fix you guys"

You're so far out of the loop...

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Re: Right to be forgotten
« Reply #62 on: February 16, 2015, 04:06:12 pm »
Jennifer takes great offense at the suggestion she is a PBJ sock puppet.  Humpf!




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Re: Right to be forgotten
« Reply #63 on: February 16, 2015, 04:11:16 pm »
For the last time, Louis is not mad at anyone,  he's not punishing anyone. He needed to give HIMSELF a reason not to come back here. Whether you understand his motives or not, even if you can't wrap your head around why he would do it that way, that is why he did it. At least he provided an explanation instead of just going, "Hey dudes, I'm back."
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Re: Right to be forgotten
« Reply #64 on: February 16, 2015, 04:20:07 pm »
    OMG, WHAT???  Jennifer dances for NOBODY!! 
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Re: Right to be forgotten
« Reply #65 on: February 16, 2015, 04:27:43 pm »
For the last time, Louis is not mad at anyone,  he's not punishing anyone. He needed to give HIMSELF a reason not to come back here. Whether you understand his motives or not, even if you can't wrap your head around why he would do it that way, that is why he did it. At least he provided an explanation instead of just going, "Hey dudes, I'm back."
   Coming back to call us asshats AFTER he took his stuff is a D/bag move and now hes got you on speed dial defending his actions. :laugh2:

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Re: Right to be forgotten
« Reply #66 on: February 16, 2015, 04:32:12 pm »
For the last time, Louis is not mad at anyone,  he's not punishing anyone. He needed to give HIMSELF a reason not to come back here. Whether you understand his motives or not, even if you can't wrap your head around why he would do it that way, that is why he did it. At least he provided an explanation instead of just going, "Hey dudes, I'm back."
   Coming back to call us asshats AFTER he took his stuff is a D/bag move and now hes got you on speed dial defending his actions. :laugh2:
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Re: Right to be forgotten
« Reply #67 on: February 16, 2015, 04:35:14 pm »
   Whatever.... Tell him Jennifer says hello :laugh2: :laugh2:.... Oh wait hes a lurker now, I"ll tell him myself. HELLO A/T!! :laugh2:

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« Reply #68 on: February 16, 2015, 05:20:18 pm »
For the last time, Louis is not mad at anyone,  he's not punishing anyone. He needed to give HIMSELF a reason not to come back here. Whether you understand his motives or not, even if you can't wrap your head around why he would do it that way, that is why he did it. At least he provided an explanation instead of just going, "Hey dudes, I'm back."

You're getting way too emotionally involved in this.

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Re: Right to be forgotten
« Reply #69 on: February 16, 2015, 05:23:39 pm »
For the last time, Louis is not mad at anyone,  he's not punishing anyone. He needed to give HIMSELF a reason not to come back here. Whether you understand his motives or not, even if you can't wrap your head around why he would do it that way, that is why he did it. At least he provided an explanation instead of just going, "Hey dudes, I'm back."

You're getting way too emotionally involved in this.

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Re: Right to be forgotten
« Reply #70 on: February 16, 2015, 06:53:41 pm »
    OK Yotsuya, Jenn has had her fun... And since you have been put in such a unique position of defending him, I will honor that decision by not posting on this subject any longer. (in all 3 threads).... And for what its worth Louis T. I have nothing against you, never have. Most of us have been subject of a thread like this, a time or two  ::) And there would be no shame if you did come back.   

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Re: Right to be forgotten
« Reply #71 on: February 16, 2015, 07:03:13 pm »
For the last time, Louis is not mad at anyone,  he's not punishing anyone. He needed to give HIMSELF a reason not to come back here. Whether you understand his motives or not, even if you can't wrap your head around why he would do it that way, that is why he did it. At least he provided an explanation instead of just going, "Hey dudes, I'm back."

You're getting way too emotionally involved in this.

 :cheers:

Believe it or not, Skippy, but when you pulled your hiding from the Mafia/IRS/Boss/Lover deletion of your other account, some of us were concerned about your well-being, too.

    OK Yotsuya, Jenn has had her fun...

Thanks for stopping making this about you.
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Re: Right to be forgotten
« Reply #72 on: February 16, 2015, 07:09:35 pm »
Holy crap, I'm wondering when Xiaou2 is gonna show up and round out this ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- show. Ugh.

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Re: Right to be forgotten
« Reply #73 on: February 17, 2015, 12:13:33 am »
I am open to suggestions on any changes to make. I'll add a couple of things to the mix:

I have changed people's usernames before at their request when they've wanted to scrub their Internet presence. In that case the content remained, but the name no longer related.

I have modified or removed very old posts before when someone had a similar situation but no longer had access, again at their request. I was able to do so in a way that minimized the effect on the thread.



Since it sounds like you are willing to work out alternative solutions and ultimately honor requests like this, I am all for putting down some limitations to the account as long as they don't inconvenience regular use.

I have come to the realization that that there are far more people than I thought who lurk here, who learn from projects and ideas and who study the information we put up. Offering alternative solutions to deleting every single post might be the best thing we can do. I met someone on the street the other day who after talking arcade cabinets for 5 minutes I found out he knew me, knew my projects, knew the projects of a lot of members here. and was excited to start his own project.

Are there capabilities to do something like limit the number of edits per week/day/hour? I'd think that 15 edits per hour maximum wouldn't affect anyone unless they are going through a mass deletion, or very, very, very pedantic.

From a new guy I think this covers it well. I have been reading these forums for a good couple of years, but just didn't have much to contribute. I managed to put together a haruman bartop, pretty much restore a completely converted MK, repair a Rush the Rock, and MAME out a golden tee (totally not a brag as my work isn't that good). I couldn't have done that without all the info on this site. It would be a shame if the one detail that might have helped someone get over the hump on their project got deleted for really any reason.

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Re: Right to be forgotten
« Reply #74 on: February 20, 2015, 03:48:16 pm »
I dont really care if my posts are here after I go, but a kind chap offered me some scripts to delete everything if I chose to.

I think people should have the right to be removed from here, but there should be a better way than mass deletion. If someone wants to go, they have to go through all their posts and PM a mod links to all the posts they wanted edited or removed (assuming itd somehow connect their "real life" identity with their online one. And the change would be a one way trip, no CTRL+Z, no ooopsies,etc


I know this all stems from LT, and it sucks I didnt get to say goodbye to the guy, he seemed pretty awesome. He felt he needed to go, and well, you gotta respect that.
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Re: Right to be forgotten
« Reply #75 on: February 20, 2015, 04:31:36 pm »
I can see both sides of this argument. I think as a community we share ideas and those ideas get built upon or are used to inspire other projects. Certainly here I think there is a friendliness and a willingness to help others with the same lets-recreate-the-wonder-of-our-youth whether they are newbs or experienced builders. And that's ace.

But more importantly, everyone deserves the right to privacy. If they want to remove their online persona for whatever reason then I respect that right. It's a shame but things carry on. I have no doubt that if LT came back with his next awesome build then we'd all be the same supportive/criticising/questioning geeks as we were before.

I wasn't going to reply to this thread but now I know I can delete it any time....   >:D

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Re: Right to be forgotten
« Reply #76 on: February 22, 2015, 04:19:17 pm »
With the internet archive nothing can be truly forgotten.

You just have to watch what you post online.  Treat your post as if you are submitting it to a newspaper.
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Re: Right to be forgotten
« Reply #77 on: March 01, 2015, 12:39:23 am »

You just have to watch what you post online.  Treat your post as if you are submitting it to a newspaper.

Wise words.