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Can we complain about mods, or maybe get one replaced?
« on: February 06, 2015, 04:04:56 pm »
Its no secret that PL1 is a terrible moderator, are we allowed to complain in public about them?  At one time the mods here were awesome and no one really had a reason to complain, but times have changed.




I was always told if you dont complain no one will know that anything is wrong, so this is me letting Saint know publicly SOMETHING IS WRONG.





I MUST STRESS THIS:
I DONT WANT TO REPLACE PL1 AS A MOD!!!!!!! I Just want him replaced in general. I for one don't like getting passive aggressive PMs from moderators letting me know they can ban me and weak excuses for back tracking.
« Last Edit: February 06, 2015, 04:44:15 pm by Malenko »
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Re: Can we complain about mods, or maybe get one replaced?
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2015, 04:07:12 pm »
I was always told if you dont complain no one will no that anything is wrong

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Re: Can we complain about mods, or maybe get one replaced?
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2015, 04:45:17 pm »
My already abysmal typing gets worse when irritated.  Typo corrected.  Or am I supposed to put [redacted] no is now know?
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Re: Can we complain about mods, or maybe get one replaced?
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2015, 04:54:02 pm »
I would like to submit a formal complaint as well. PL1 threatened to ban me for having a difference of opinion.

Thread here:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,143284.0/all.html

Yet, if I'm reading Saint's thoughts on the matter correctly...
Careful digitalmonkeyman, the last member who vocalized his displeasure with GGG wound up with a temporary ban...

No one is banned for expressing their opinion of a vendor good, bad, or indifferent. Bans here are few and only for violating the rules. Airing a dispute with a vendor for the benefit of other potential customers is not a violation of the rules.
...no harm, no foul.

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Re: Can we complain about mods, or maybe get one replaced?
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2015, 04:55:28 pm »
I MUST STRESS THIS:
I DONT WANT TO REPLACE PL1 AS A MOD!!!!!!! I Just want him replaced in general. I for one don't like getting passive aggressive PMs from moderators letting me know they can ban me and weak excuses for back tracking.

Well that ain't cool. It's just as bad as another mod specifically going through his own posts and moving them around the forum ad hoc.

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Re: Can we complain about mods, or maybe get one replaced?
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2015, 04:57:29 pm »
Malenko
oh my god....
wtf are u talking about ?
so u got pissie  with a mod ?
and now want them reduced ?
grow a set of nut's and explain your self in clear txt.
if u sent the boss a letter then sat back and turned the time clock on for a reply.?
man u have problem's, these issuie's get dealt in there proper time..
and place.. if the boss did not answer u? I would look up his personal problem's
post's and WHAT HE STATED AS TO WHAT HE WAS GOING TO DO
about that simple...
so in short sit down and WORK IT OUT...

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Re: Can we complain about mods, or maybe get one replaced?
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2015, 05:05:00 pm »
***Build what you dig, bro. Build what you dig.***

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Re: Can we complain about mods, or maybe get one replaced?
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2015, 05:05:59 pm »
Malenko
oh my god....
wtf are u talking about ?
so u got pissie  with a mod ?
and now want them reduced ?
grow a set of nut's and explain your self in clear txt.
if u sent the boss a letter then sat back and turned the time clock on for a reply.?
man u have problem's, these issuie's get dealt in there proper time..
and place.. if the boss did not answer u? I would look up his personal problem's
post's and WHAT HE STATED AS TO WHAT HE WAS GOING TO DO
about that simple...
so in short sit down and WORK IT OUT...

ed

Kind of sounds like a drug addicted mother in denial about her child's accusations of being molested by a family member...

Malenko's been around for a long time. Have you ever seen him post something like this? I haven't. And he's not the only one with a complaint. I mean, I don't agree with the way Delusional mods the place, but I don't have any complaints about him like I do PL1.

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Re: Can we complain about mods, or maybe get one replaced?
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2015, 05:14:07 pm »
Malenko
oh my god....
wtf are u talking about ?
so u got pissie  with a mod ?
and now want them reduced ?
grow a set of nut's and explain your self in clear txt.
if u sent the boss a letter then sat back and turned the time clock on for a reply.?
man u have problem's, these issuie's get dealt in there proper time..
and place.. if the boss did not answer u? I would look up his personal problem's
post's and WHAT HE STATED AS TO WHAT HE WAS GOING TO DO
about that simple...
so in short sit down and WORK IT OUT...

ed

ed,
I am posting in the correct section of the forum to air my complaint about a moderator. Its not a one time thing, he has been persistently bad at his new found moderator title and Im not the only one who feels this way. As for having testicular fortitude ; I think posting what I did is a clear indicator I am not afraid to speak my mind.   Any attempts to try and "work it out" just result in lame jokes, ban threats, and other PMs telling me I'm not a moderator and to just suck it up.  Judging by your posting style I assume English is not your first language but I do I hope I got the gist of your thoughts and retorted accordingly.

If this wont suffice, just let me know bucko!
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Re: Can we complain about mods, or maybe get one replaced?
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2015, 05:24:55 pm »
 :-\  edited: for fear of the moderator wrath here.

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Re: Can we complain about mods, or maybe get one replaced?
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2015, 05:50:32 pm »
:-\  edited: for fear of the moderator wrath here.

If you've got a concern, express it. Problems can't be fixed if they're not addressed...

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Re: Can we complain about mods, or maybe get one replaced?
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2015, 06:20:26 pm »
I mean, I appreciate what PL1 has done with the wiki...but what I don't get is how he was made a mod after only being here for < 3 years, with very little in project contributions, or any other notable contribution to members or their project builds.  Is it only to give him wiki editing access? 
Normally I wouldn't care much about this, but when it comes to someone who has become a moderator, swinging their mod penises around, that's when it really chaffs ---my bottom---.
And to do it to a forum-veteran, who's been here for a MUCH longer time than most, contributed a ton of his arcade experiences and advice to forum members, and IMO is generally an all-around cool guy, something is seriously amiss.

I mean, c'mon, that ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- is unnecessary. You don't see guys like Haruman acting out like this. yeah he and Rick get into a bit, but it's all in good competitive vendor fun.  In this case, Mal definitely has hard feelings meaning that PL1 went over "the line".  Obviously I don't know all sides of the story, but the fact that he's in the spotlight here means something is not right.

IMO, PL1 owes Malenko an apology, or bust.

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Re: Can we complain about mods, or maybe get one replaced?
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2015, 10:19:10 pm »
Malenko
no bucko  I am just fine..thk-u very much for asking..
as for pl1 100% of my convo's with the mod have been 100% right
both way's. hence get a set of nut's chat him or at least try
ENGLISH ENOUGH FOR U GOD ????

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Re: Can we complain about mods, or maybe get one replaced?
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2015, 10:27:51 pm »
Jesus Ed. Malenko is trying to have a dialog and while it's great you're in here fighting PL1s fights like a big brother he's nowhere to be found so if we are tallying nutsacks around here...not sayin but I'm just sayin.

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Re: Can we complain about mods, or maybe get one replaced?
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2015, 10:49:12 pm »
Le Chuck
I know I know
just saying my mind...
never had a problem with pl1 ever
mind u it did take a pm or so..  but wtf it worked out.
so my point is maybe the mod has had a very bad home day ? and want's some
time off ? who knows but the mod in question ?
just saying get off of the high horse and cut some grass..
please remember SAINT lost the 1 of his own soul and left the chain of command
to the mod's to run the site....

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Re: Can we complain about mods, or maybe get one replaced?
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2015, 11:02:07 pm »
nut's is possessive meaning the nut owns something
nuts is the plural of nut, meaning more than one.


While I think its great you keep calling me a ---Bad words, bad words, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when saint censors you?---, you seem to fail to realize I tried to take it to PMs with him and it didn't work out. So by your words "I Nut's upped" merp.

It is fantastic that you've had "100% right conversations" with him, but as you can see by the tone of the thread, its not always the case and seems to be the exception and not the rule.
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Re: Can we complain about mods, or maybe get one replaced?
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2015, 11:18:02 pm »
Malenko
no I never called u a ---Bad words, bad words, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when saint censors you?---
I stated get a set of nut's
btw when u speak to a man and they tell u get a set of nut's.
they mean be a MAN suck it up

but no reply from the mod mean's your  post hit home?
or pl1 is away?
but to post in open forum ?

so without knowing any of your complaint's ? how is 1
to ascertain the info that has pissed u off so much ?

rem 1 thing a MASK is only good for so long

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Re: Can we complain about mods, or maybe get one replaced?
« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2015, 12:24:17 pm »
    I find it curious that this thread apparently is not being moderated by anyone.

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Re: Can we complain about mods, or maybe get one replaced?
« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2015, 12:29:36 pm »
    I find it curious that this thread apparently is not being moderated by anyone.

Sometimes,  it's good just to get this stuff out in the open. Clear the air, get rid of some bad blood, so to speak. I don't think anything being stated hasn't been backed up by example.  :dunno
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Re: Can we complain about mods, or maybe get one replaced?
« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2015, 01:27:07 pm »
I haven't been active here over the last week so I'm not sure what caused this issue.  I'll say that length of tenure here shouldn't dictate who should help moderate the boards.  And the skill set necessary to complete a project has nothing to do with a skill set to moderate a bunch of dorks like us.

I will admit that this group of mods has had some behaviors that the previous set didn't.  Not a judgement.  Just an observation.  With any change in the daily moderation of the board, there are going to be adjustments.  Heck, Saint's not nearly as active here in the last couple of years as he had been before that.  Life gets in the way sometimes.  To that note, this place is not nearly as busy as it was 5-10 years ago.  Less crap to have to moderate most of the time now.

I will say if an attempt to clear the air on this was sent via PM and it couldn't be resolved and Saint was contacted via PM about it, then this thread makes sense.  If that wasn't attempted first, I'd give Saint and PL1 the courtesy of doing that before this thread breaks down to the nonsense that we are all capable of.

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Re: Can we complain about mods, or maybe get one replaced?
« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2015, 02:10:28 pm »
Ain't no meeting like a chatroom meeting.


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Re: Can we complain about mods, or maybe get one replaced?
« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2015, 04:39:32 pm »
Sorry it took so long on this post, but I wanted to seriously research and reply to the concerns and allegations posted here.

Malenko and Nephasth are both valued and respected members of the BYOAC community.

I hold no grudge against them or anyone else.

I understand that Malenko and Neph feel that I have wronged them.

Have I made mistakes? Yes, but some of the accusations made in this thread are definitely over the line.

I tried to explain and work things out via PM, but that didn't settle our differences.

Everyone please stick to facts and don't let this disagreement cause needless drama.

If I'm to be tried in the court of public opinion, can we at least have order in the court and specific evidence presented instead of a witch hunt?
(Cue someone saying, "He turned me into a newt."  "A Newt?"  "I got better."  :lol)

In the interest of transparency, I give permission to Malenko and Neph to post any related material from my PMs that they think makes their case.



I for one don't like getting passive aggressive PMs from moderators letting me know they can ban me
I reviewed all my PMs sent to Malenko and found that the first mention of bans was made by him on September 29, 2014, 09:35:26 pm. (I'll post the text of the PM for context if Malenko grants permission)

My reply on September 30, 2014, 01:32:20 am was
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I won't ban you for the same reason I didn't close your mod report.

It is still open, and the only comment is from me, "Guys, please let me know if I'm out of line on this one.  Thanks.  -- Scott".

If Saint and the mods think I'm wrong, I'm willing to accept their judgement.  Are you?

Perhaps Malenko was thinking about the post below that Neph is upset about.

My PM to Nephasth yesterday apologizing about that thread is the only other reference to bans I can find in my PMs.

Was there another occasion you were thinking about, Malenko?



PL1 threatened to ban me for having a difference of opinion.
At no time have I ever threatened to ban someone over a difference of opinion.

I strongly support the freedom to express one's opinion.

I don't think it's out-of-line to ask members to keep a civil tone. (see Rule 1)

I think what Neph is referring to is this.

FYI - quickest way to get me to STFU... Don't quote my posts or talk about me.
FYI - there is one quicker way . . .  Are you lobbying for the mods to exercise that option?   :police:

Keep it on-topic and civil, everyone.

After that post, Neph sent me a PM asking if I was serious.

I didn't want to reply in the heat of the moment and planned to do so later.

Several hours later, Neph appeared to have calmed down.

When I got back to PMs, I was in a hurry and forgot that Neph had asked a question.

I foolishly deleted the message figuring that everything was back to usual.    :embarassed:

I didn't realize that he was still mad at me until his "deal breaker" comment here in the UCA after action thread.

As mentioned above, my PM to Nephasth yesterday apologizing about that thread is the only other reference to bans I can find in my PMs.

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I was surprised by how argumentative you were being in that thread with RandyT and DietCoke.

My post was intended as a "Dude, what are you doing?  Cut it out." nudge rather than a serious ban threat.

In retrospect, I really should have phrased the post differently or at least added a "just kidding".   :embarassed:
(Contrary to popular belief, the Scott-bot is indeed human.)

The belated explaination and apology was, obviously, not acceptable to Neph.



weak excuses for back tracking.

You called me on my speculation about the timeline of Howard's departure in this thread.

We debated several points via PM.

You convinced me on some points and I edited several posts to remove material that was taken in a way that I did not intend. (I stated a correlation, but did NOT intend to imply causation)

You also clarified several of your statements that I misunderstood, which led me to apologize for my misunderstanding.

Are you mad that you convinced me on those points or that I apologized for misunderstanding what you meant originally?   :dizzy:

Were you talking about something else?



Any attempts to try and "work it out" just result in lame jokes, ban threats, and other PMs telling me I'm not a moderator and to just suck it up.

Lame jokes -- I plead guilty, Your Honor.  :lol  Was just trying to lighten the mood and let you know there are no hard feelings.

Ban threats - Addressed above. My ONLY mention of bans in any PM to Malenko is saying that I will NOT ban him.

Not a mod - You pointed that out in a PM on September 29, 2014, 09:35:26 pm

On September 30, 2014, 01:32:20 am, I replied
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You may not be a mod, but you have been around long enough to know how this stuff can escalate if it gets personal.

None of us want that kind of scorched earth battle.

Suck it up - There were several instances where I said we'd have to agree to disagree on a matter and that we should abide by Saint's decisions.

If that's not it, perhaps you could post the exact text that you are referring to.



I thought that Malenko and I had worked out our initial misunderstandings and that we were OK.

Everything was cordial when we worked together on his multi-player game list for the wiki in late November.

Recently, however, Malenko has made it clear that he doesn't like how I mod and IMHO it has affected his view of everything I say and do on BYOAC.

As a wise man once said, "People who want to be offended will find a way to be offended."

I have been patient with the abuse and insults that Malenko has cast my way (sticks and stones . . .), but it really is getting old.



Should mods be held to a higher standard?  YES

Are mods human?  YES

Do we make mistakes?  All of us do at one time or another.

When we make mistakes, should we try to fix them?  YES

Will every matter be fully resolved and world peace be achieved?  NO

Do mods have no right to hold an opinion on how to perform their duties?  NO

Do mods need to perform their duties in a manner directed by Saint?  YES

Has Saint, or any other mod, asked me to change how I perform those duties?  Not yet.


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Re: Can we complain about mods, or maybe get one replaced?
« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2015, 05:15:14 pm »
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Re: Can we complain about mods, or maybe get one replaced?
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Re: Can we complain about mods, or maybe get one replaced?
« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2015, 05:20:38 pm »
   Eye of toad, pinch of wolfsbane... Oh don't mind Jennifer, I'm just making a love potion for that cute nerd guy. ::)
LT did say here that I need to get out a bit more.   :cheers:


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Re: Can we complain about mods, or maybe get one replaced?
« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2015, 05:31:00 pm »
   Eye of toad, pinch of wolfsbane... Oh don't mind Jennifer, I'm just making a love potion for that cute nerd guy. ::)

You... This place... I don't...  :dizzy:


There are some interesting folks around here.

PBJ must be hitting the mead again.

All I'll say is that the best moderation happens behind the scenes, and most of the time it should not even be apparent that it's happening. That whole thread should have just been deleted, as it was asking for something against the rules rather than be sanitized. Sending it to PH would have prevented this from blowing up. I saw that [redacted] comment and I thought some fool posted a link. It wasn't until after the fact I realized it was Malenko, and that he actually posted something fairly harmless. The whole thread should have been nuked once the mod thought it was crossing the line instead of drawing attention to it by putting [redacted].

I recently had a situation where I felt overmoderation occurred to me, I requested something be done and it was, and the mod reached out to me via PM and apologized, and I told him we were good, which we are. Nothing public.
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Re: Can we complain about mods, or maybe get one replaced?
« Reply #26 on: February 07, 2015, 07:09:56 pm »
All I'll say is that the best moderation happens behind the scenes, and most of the time it should not even be apparent that it's happening. That whole thread should have just been deleted, as it was asking for something against the rules rather than be sanitized. Sending it to PH would have prevented this from blowing up. I saw that [redacted] comment and I thought some fool posted a link. It wasn't until after the fact I realized it was Malenko, and that he actually posted something fairly harmless. The whole thread should have been nuked once the mod thought it was crossing the line instead of drawing attention to it by putting [redacted].
Message received and moderation approach already adjusted accordingly. (I hope)  Thanks for the feedback.   :cheers:

In retrospect, PH'ing that thread earlier would have been the better way to go.

Didn't expect the blowback from Malenko over the way I redacted the google keyword recommendation.

(We both agreed in the thread that the keyword recommendation should have been removed, but disagreed on the way it was done.)

I didn't do it that way to be a jerk and no disrespect was intended.


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P.S. Can't believe I missed OP's rule violaton in that PH'd thread.   :embarassed:

Going forward, if anyone sees a rule violation like that, please feel free to use the "report to moderator" link.    ;D

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Re: Can we complain about mods, or maybe get one replaced?
« Reply #27 on: February 07, 2015, 08:27:34 pm »
Instead of bitching about the mods, we need to help Saint find a new server admin.  Woogie's been hit or miss for 6-8 years now.  Time to find someone who can handle that side of stuff and get it off Saint's plate. 

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Re: Can we complain about mods, or maybe get one replaced?
« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2015, 08:45:05 pm »
Instead of bitching about the mods, we need to help Saint find a new server admin.  Woogie's been hit or miss for 6-8 years now.  Time to find someone who can handle that side of stuff and get it off Saint's plate.
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« Last Edit: February 07, 2015, 10:43:29 pm by Malenko »
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Re: Can we complain about mods, or maybe get one replaced?
« Reply #29 on: February 08, 2015, 12:08:00 pm »
PL1 threatened to ban me for having a difference of opinion.
At no time have I ever threatened to ban someone over a difference of opinion.

I strongly support the freedom to express one's opinion.

I don't think it's out-of-line to ask members to keep a civil tone. (see Rule 1)

Rule 1 makes no mention of "tone". Tone cannot be accurately conveyed in text type. The tone is all in your head, if you read my posts in a negative tone, that's your fault. So if you're now finally saying the ban threat was due to a possible rule breaking, that's ---That which is odiferous and causeth plants to grow---.

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Be nice to each other. We're serious about this one. Disagree, debate, argue at will - but please be respectful. Messages that are flame-bait, hateful, racist, or otherwise pointlessly antagonistic will likely be sent to post-hell, and repeat offenders banned from posting.

I was being respectful in that thread. I did not mention Randy's competitor by name, I did not post any competing products in his thread. I did not post anything hateful, racist, or pointlessly antagonistic. When misinformation started to get posted, I made an attempt to correct it. Yes, Randy has fanbois, but what I was suggesting was in no way out of line. And some people apparently don't want to read threads older than their membership here...

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I think what Neph is referring to is this.

FYI - quickest way to get me to STFU... Don't quote my posts or talk about me.
FYI - there is one quicker way . . .  Are you lobbying for the mods to exercise that option?   :police:

Keep it on-topic and civil, everyone.

After that post, Neph sent me a PM asking if I was serious.

I didn't want to reply in the heat of the moment and planned to do so later.

Several hours later, Neph appeared to have calmed down.

When I got back to PMs, I was in a hurry and forgot that Neph had asked a question.

I foolishly deleted the message figuring that everything was back to usual.    :embarassed:

Yeah, I didn't want misinterpret what you were trying to tell me. But thanks for ignoring it, I love trying to be a mind reader...

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I didn't realize that he was still mad at me until his "deal breaker" comment here in the UCA after action thread.

As mentioned above, my PM to Nephasth yesterday apologizing about that thread is the only other reference to bans I can find in my PMs.

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I was surprised by how argumentative you were being in that thread with RandyT and DietCoke.

My post was intended as a "Dude, what are you doing?  Cut it out." nudge rather than a serious ban threat.

In retrospect, I really should have phrased the post differently or at least added a "just kidding".   :embarassed:
(Contrary to popular belief, the Scott-bot is indeed human.)

The belated explaination and apology was, obviously, not acceptable to Neph.

No it's not. You should have addressed my original PM while it was relative. Not wait until you catch some heat from some members in another thread you should have Post Hell'd right from the get go. Like yotsuya said, the best modding is done without being noticed. But you did allow that nonsense to continue for far too long before you sent it to Post Hell after being asked to do so by multiple members. Don't get personally/emotionally involved in moderating, do what needs to be done and be done with it.
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Re: Can we complain about mods, or maybe get one replaced?
« Reply #30 on: February 08, 2015, 12:26:32 pm »
Moderating is serious business

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Re: Can we complain about mods, or maybe get one replaced?
« Reply #31 on: February 08, 2015, 01:35:09 pm »
Moderating is serious business

Normally I wouldn't give a ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---, but the ban threat was uncalled for. Just send my ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- to PH if it's too abrasive.

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Re: Can we complain about mods, or maybe get one replaced?
« Reply #32 on: February 08, 2015, 01:48:42 pm »
Moderating is serious business

Normally I wouldn't give a ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---, but the ban threat was uncalled for. Just send my ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- to PH if it's too abrasive.

Yeah, I have to agree. When I read that thinly veiled ban threat in the Spectralite thread, I thought it was out of line. it was a conversation between Randy and Neph, and the mod inadvertently made himself a part of it (and took a side) by doing what he did.

Tombo, a mod over a KLOV, doesn't mess around. If a post needs to be cleaned up, he just deletes the whole post. If he needs to make a "stop ---smurfing--- around" post, it's directed to the board. Effective, and it works.
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Re: Can we complain about mods, or maybe get one replaced?
« Reply #33 on: February 08, 2015, 02:02:51 pm »
Tombo, a mod over a KLOV, doesn't mess around. If a post needs to be cleaned up, he just deletes the whole post. If he needs to make a "stop ---smurfing--- around" post, it's directed to the board. Effective, and it works.

I'd give PBJ's left nut to have Tombo be a mod here.
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Re: Can we complain about mods, or maybe get one replaced?
« Reply #34 on: February 08, 2015, 03:58:37 pm »
Thinking about this a little more... I find it strange that Scott saves PMs from malenko from back in September, yet deletes mine from a few weeks ago. BYOAC PM boxes have no limit on the number of PMs saved, so why go back and delete a select few? Need to find a certain PM? BYOAC's search function works mighty fine.

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Re: Can we complain about mods, or maybe get one replaced?
« Reply #35 on: February 09, 2015, 03:05:39 am »
     Tombo over at Klove can moderate, delete posts or eat turds for all that's worth.... First of all that's there not here, And over moderating like that is censorship, Something Saint has never done in the whole time Jennifer has been here.

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Re: Can we complain about mods, or maybe get one replaced?
« Reply #36 on: February 09, 2015, 10:05:27 am »
Back in the day, when you had to sign up for a cancer forum to back into KLOV, it was a great place to run a search in case a deal felt weird to you.  9 times out of 10 the weirdo couldn't contain themselves and was bragging about some pending deal they had with a sucker.  Oops, didn't know pinballjim had an account, did ya?   :lol

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Re: Can we complain about mods, or maybe get one replaced?
« Reply #37 on: February 09, 2015, 10:07:02 am »
     Tombo over at Klove can moderate, delete posts or eat turds for all that's worth.... First of all that's there not here, And over moderating like that is censorship, Something Saint has never done in the whole time Jennifer has been here.

So what is [redacted]? Undermoderating? It's still "censorship".
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Re: Can we complain about mods, or maybe get one replaced?
« Reply #38 on: February 09, 2015, 10:43:29 am »
BYOAC has an auto censor. I don't have a problem with it, just sayin'. Censorship is a part of BYOAC.

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Re: Can we complain about mods, or maybe get one replaced?
« Reply #39 on: February 09, 2015, 10:50:18 am »
BYOAC has an auto censor. I don't have a problem with it, just sayin'. Censorship is a part of BYOAC.

Exactly.
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