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Arcade games you can play with a Star Wars Yoke
« on: February 05, 2015, 01:22:50 pm »
I've been reading through posts and I thought I had a good idea on which games I could play on a star wars Yoke in Mame. The list I have is:

FireFox
Star Wars
Empire Strikes Back
Return of the Jedi
Stun Runner
Road Blasters
Paperboy

I was happy with this list, and then I was flipping through my Hyperspin list and right next to Star Wars is a game called "Star Blade" and it looks like a lot of fun and compatible with the yoke.



I've reviewed a few threads and I see some people want to play Outrun, but were having some issues with the POTS. I wanted to put together a list of all games that will play with the Yoke. Any more suggestions?


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Re: Arcade games you can play with a Star Wars Yoke
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2015, 01:25:31 pm »
I've been reading through posts and I thought I had a good idea on which games I could play on a star wars Yoke in Mame. The list I have is:

FireFox
Star Wars
Empire Strikes Back
Return of the Jedi
Stun Runner
Road Blasters
Paperboy

I was happy with this list, and then I was flipping through my Hyperspin list and right next to Star Wars is a game called "Star Blade" and it looks like a lot of fun and compatible with the yoke.



I've reviewed a few threads and I see some people want to play Outrun, but were having some issues with the POTS. I wanted to put together a list of all games that will play with the Yoke. Any more suggestions?

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Re: Arcade games you can play with a Star Wars Yoke
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2015, 01:34:31 pm »
Le Chuck had a similar list.

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Re: Arcade games you can play with a Star Wars Yoke
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2015, 02:54:02 pm »
Hydra! Perfect. Added.

I found Chucks list in his front end thread, I can't seem to refind it, but I think all the games he listed are there.

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Re: Arcade games you can play with a Star Wars Yoke
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2015, 02:56:48 pm »
Although you can't play it ONLY with a yoke, Spy Hunter is a yoke game. You could also expand your search to games that used analog joysticks. Some might be playable with a yoke. I think Tail Gunner might be one of those types of games.

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Re: Arcade games you can play with a Star Wars Yoke
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2015, 03:02:22 pm »
SF2
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Re: Arcade games you can play with a Star Wars Yoke
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2015, 04:37:05 pm »
What setting is the star wars yoke listed under in romlister?

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Re: Arcade games you can play with a Star Wars Yoke
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2015, 04:58:24 pm »
No personal experience with a star wars yoke, but have you ever tried the analog flightstick games like Afterburner?
With the flexibility of MAME's input system, I don't see any reason it wouldn't work.

On a side note, I don't really like any of those analog flightstick games.  :P

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Re: Arcade games you can play with a Star Wars Yoke
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2015, 06:41:23 pm »
Buried in the SW FE thread.

The list of SNAPS that need wireframing: Post any games I've missed and I'll get them added to the list.  Ones that are marked through are done.  All PNGs are transparent with an outer glow on the wire frame.  I can convert them to no glow and a black alpha channel if anybody needs that for a specific FE but this should work for 99% of people.  The size is 800x600 but they seem to upscale well enough to at least one resolution higher if need be. 

MAME
    - Esb
    - Sw
    - Firefox
    - Stunrunner
    - Tac/scan
    - Tail gunner
    - Galaxy force 2
    - Paper boy
    - ROTJ
    - Hydra

Supermodel
    - Sw trilogy arcade

NullDC
    - Sw demolition
    - Starblade

Project64
    - Sw shadows of the empire
    - Sw ep1 racer (also on PC - which is better?)
    - Starfox64

SNES
    - Starfox

PC
    - Sw rogue squadron
    - Free space scp
    - Diaspora
    - Starfighter (requires additional controls)
    - 3D Starstrike
    - X-Wing vs Tie Fighter


Should we add After Burner?  Anybody play that, anybody play that with a yoke?  Is there a second one that's well emulated? 

3D Starstrike is the only two color one I've done so far, I like it but can do a monotone in anybody feels the need.  Tac/Scan was a scratch build, I'd really like a font like that but couldn't find one. 


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Re: Arcade games you can play with a Star Wars Yoke
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2015, 08:58:56 pm »
Check out the Analog Joystick game list here in the wiki.   ;D

Right column lists yoke games.


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Re: Arcade games you can play with a Star Wars Yoke
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2015, 08:47:15 am »
Road Blasters

NB you can't easily play this with a yoke, as the original uses optics (not pots).

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Re: Arcade games you can play with a Star Wars Yoke
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2015, 08:48:58 am »
Also, Two Tigers is not listed on the wiki, but I'm pretty sure is a yoke game.

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Re: Arcade games you can play with a Star Wars Yoke
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2015, 09:11:00 am »
Also, Two Tigers is not listed on the wiki, but I'm pretty sure is a yoke game.


Luftrausers looks like this game, in ways.


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Re: Arcade games you can play with a Star Wars Yoke
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2015, 10:19:54 am »
Also, Two Tigers is not listed on the wiki, but I'm pretty sure is a yoke game.
Added.   :cheers:


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Re: Arcade games you can play with a Star Wars Yoke
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2015, 10:27:03 am »
This list you speak of. where is it?

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Re: Arcade games you can play with a Star Wars Yoke
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2015, 11:20:07 am »
Topgunner (the vector game)

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Re: Arcade games you can play with a Star Wars Yoke
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2015, 12:37:55 pm »

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Re: Arcade games you can play with a Star Wars Yoke
« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2015, 05:19:14 pm »
Looking at Star Blade, it looks to me like it will work on a Yoke

http://www.arcade-museum.com/game_detail.php?game_id=9779


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Re: Arcade games you can play with a Star Wars Yoke
« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2020, 09:11:19 pm »
Sorry to dig up this old topic, but I just got a 1up Arcade Star Wars cabinet. I'd like to add all of the games in this thread, as well as all of the Sega Star Wars games. I think they'd probably be playable on MAME with a USB modded Atari SW yoke, right?

Star Wars Arcade
Star Wars Trilogy Arcade
Star Wars Racer Arcade
Star Wars Battle Pod

Now a lot of these use two joysticks, but do they NEED two joysticks? It's been many years since I played any of these games, so I honestly don't remember.

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Re: Arcade games you can play with a Star Wars Yoke
« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2020, 10:59:06 pm »
I think they'd probably be playable on MAME with a USB modded Atari SW yoke, right?
Maybe three of the four, but you'll need at least one other emulator to add those three to your cab.
- AFAIK Battle Pod is too new for MAME. (2015)
- Not sure if you'll get decent performance from SWA and SWT in current MAME.

Star Wars Trilogy - One analog stick.  No problem.   ;D

Star Wars Arcade - Pilot seat has an analog stick and throttle, gunner seat has a stick.



Star Wars Battle Pod - Analog stick and throttle.

Star Wars Pod Racer - Two analog levers.




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Re: Arcade games you can play with a Star Wars Yoke
« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2020, 05:15:26 am »
Shamelessly hoarded from a previous post by Le Chuck (from his most excellent cabaret build if I remember correctly?)

After Burner - a surprising fav of guests and kids with them routinely playing through multiple levels
Cyber Sled - personal fav, recent add.  More for me than anyone else
ESB - Completeness, people expect to see it but no one plays it.
Mobile Suite Gundam Final Assault - Space themed rail shooter where you start flying in the second-ish level.  Good ish
Galaxy Force II - Fun space rail shooter with good level variety.
Gun Buster - Unique movement mechanic that works really well with the yoke
Hydro Thunder - Played every time the machine is on by anyone playing.  Often times the only game on during a party
Jurassic Park - kids. love. it.  Want to get the sequel working but it's more light gunny so probably not the best choice. 
Mario Kart GP2 - the other fan favorite, fills that cart racer itch
Night Striker - recent addition, kids enjoy it, good variety, might not last
Paperboy - Those that remember it love it, those that don't skip it.
Prop Cycle - Got it running full speed, audio glitches a bit.  Works great with a yoke and is a nice change of pace
ROTJ - completeness and a personal fav.  I really enjoy this much hated gem.
Space Harrier - Really really want to upgrade to the Planet Harriers on Demul Hakiru, just can't get it working right.  This is a good unique game tho.
Solar Assault - Wow.  Needs no reason. If you can get it running full speed it's a must have. 
STUN Runner - Surprisingly in the top five for most played games.  Everybody remembers it and likes it.
Star Blade - Good wow factor, really works with the theme and feel
Star Wars - Completeness.  Nobody plays it for more than a level but me.  People usually jump in and then out after the first DS if they even make it that far. 
Star Wars Racer Revenge - PS2 version, better than the PC SWR, a few menus to jump through with either and this has better graphics and gameplay.
T2 - The other kids love it gotta have it game.
Star Wars Trilogy - Second most played game after Hydro Thunder.

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Re: Arcade games you can play with a Star Wars Yoke
« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2020, 12:19:09 pm »
I think they'd probably be playable on MAME with a USB modded Atari SW yoke, right?
Maybe three of the four, but you'll need at least one other emulator to add those three to your cab.
- AFAIK Battle Pod is too new for MAME. (2015)
- Not sure if you'll get decent performance from SWA and SWT in current MAME.

Star Wars Trilogy - One analog stick.  No problem.   ;D

Star Wars Arcade - Pilot seat has an analog stick and throttle, gunner seat has a stick.



Star Wars Battle Pod - Analog stick and throttle.

Star Wars Pod Racer - Two analog levers.




Scott

Ah, so Racer plays like a dual stick shooter, COD style kinda? I don't think any of the home versions play like that? ASAIK, one analog only (only played N64 version).

So the 32X version of Arcade would probably work better for this project, unless a joystick/ throttle stick is added? Is this a two player, two screen game? So the second player could potentially be on a whole other  connected cabinet, right? Don't think I've ever played any version of this game.

I'll have to look into what emus support these games the best. Thanks!

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Re: Arcade games you can play with a Star Wars Yoke
« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2020, 01:24:04 pm »
Star Wars Pod Racer - Two analog levers.


Ah, so Racer plays like a dual stick shooter, COD style kinda?
The levers are left and right throttle, so more like the tank controls in Battlezone.

i.e. Equal thrust on left and right moves you straight forward.  More thrust on the left turns you to the right.  More thrust on the right turns you to the left.




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Re: Arcade games you can play with a Star Wars Yoke
« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2020, 02:21:22 pm »
Using a code, you can play the N64 game with two throttles:


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Re: Arcade games you can play with a Star Wars Yoke
« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2020, 03:21:24 pm »
Call me crazy, but couldn't you also play any game which used the analog mounted gun?  I.e. Revolution X, T2, Operation wolf, Crossbow, etc...?

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« Reply #25 on: May 22, 2020, 04:03:17 pm »
Call me crazy, but couldn't you also play any game which used the analog mounted gun?  I.e. Revolution X, T2, Operation wolf, Crossbow, etc...?
You're not crazy, Randy.   ;D

Electrically, a positional gun = an analog joystick = a SW yoke.
- They all use X- and Y-axis potentiometers.

The wiki has a list of analog joystick/positional gun/yoke games at http://wiki.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/Joysticks#Analog_Joysticks.

MAME can also use an analog joystick/positional gun/yoke for light gun games like Operation Wolf and Crossbow.

One potential down-side on these positional gun/lightgun games is that you'll need to aim using the crosshairs in MAME instead of the sights on the gun/crossbow.
- For some peoople, that's a deal-breaker.  YMMV.   :dunno


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Re: Arcade games you can play with a Star Wars Yoke
« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2020, 05:32:34 pm »
Ironically -

I have just Star Wars, Paperboy and Return of the Jedi on mine. All other games just cluttered up the list for us.

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Re: Arcade games you can play with a Star Wars Yoke
« Reply #27 on: May 23, 2020, 12:28:02 am »
Yeah.  You'll find that games you can play with a yoke and ones you should play with a yoke aren't always mutually exclusive.  What you've got there and maybe roadblasters and a few games that used a yoke-like controller are it for me.  Maybe 8 or 9. 

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Re: Arcade games you can play with a Star Wars Yoke
« Reply #28 on: December 30, 2020, 01:33:22 pm »
Revist time!

I just added a few games to the list as acceptable to play:

Outrun
Outrun Turbo
Outrunners
Rad Rally

They are all driving games, but using the handles to provide gas and the triggers to shift (for those games that require shifting) feel real natural. I suppose adding a pedal to the cabinet would be easy to do, but playing Outrun has been no problem.

I'll check out Operation Wolf too.

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Re: Arcade games you can play with a Star Wars Yoke
« Reply #29 on: December 30, 2020, 05:05:15 pm »
Operation Wolf and Terminator 2 are both great additions!

Looking for what else I can add that plays good.

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Re: Arcade games you can play with a Star Wars Yoke
« Reply #30 on: December 30, 2020, 06:32:31 pm »
The gun games mentioned reminded me of Wild Pilot.
It's a mounted gun game, but the perspective is from inside the cockpit of an old fighter plane, which kinda goes with the yoke.

Graphics are glitchy in parts, but it's playable.

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Re: Arcade games you can play with a Star Wars Yoke
« Reply #31 on: December 30, 2020, 06:36:15 pm »
Along those same lines, the laserdisc game Cobra Command.
IIRC, it works in MAME now.  Works in Singe if not, although not sure about the controls support there.

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Re: Arcade games you can play with a Star Wars Yoke
« Reply #32 on: December 30, 2020, 06:38:44 pm »
PC port of Hydro Thunder

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Re: Arcade games you can play with a Star Wars Yoke
« Reply #33 on: December 31, 2020, 11:26:47 am »
I was so happy how Operation Wolf and T2 played, I checked out a few other games I enjoyed at the arcade. I ended up adding:

Point Blank 1 & 2 - they play great!
Revolution X - has a long load time, but also plays great
Steel Gunner - seems to play good. Not super familiar with this one, but I got through the first level ok
I have fond memories of Cheyenne and Crossbow, but giving them another play through - they didn't make the cut.

Some games, like T2 and RevX are pretty much quarter eaters. While Point Blank is just fun.

After adding the racing games and shooting games, I'm having a all new appreciation for the Star Wars cabinet.

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Re: Arcade games you can play with a Star Wars Yoke
« Reply #34 on: December 31, 2020, 01:53:21 pm »
Keep them coming.  I've been debating a Yoke/Star Wars cabinet build and this list is helping push me over the edge.  Outrun is not one I would have considered and am happy to see it is playable.  :cheers:


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« Reply #35 on: December 31, 2020, 02:41:55 pm »
Lunar Lander

Pitch for main thrust, triggers for left and right thrusters, thumb button for abort.

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Re: Arcade games you can play with a Star Wars Yoke
« Reply #36 on: December 31, 2020, 07:23:37 pm »
Keep them coming.  I've been debating a Yoke/Star Wars cabinet build and this list is helping push me over the edge.  Outrun is not one I would have considered and am happy to see it is playable.  :cheers:

Outrun, Turbo Outrun, Outrunners all play well. The shifting with the triggers and gas pedal with the handles is very playable. The emulated game has a graphic showing whether you are in low or high gear. So far, not having a brake isn't a big downside. In the arcade, I would either let off the gas or down shift, so I do the same thing here. If you're the kind of person who would use the brake, that could be a deal breaker.

I'm done putting games on the list, but I suspect nearly all on rail shooters will work (as long as it's not a shoot off screen for a reload) will work. I have all the games I want on the list.

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Re: Arcade games you can play with a Star Wars Yoke
« Reply #37 on: December 31, 2020, 07:36:10 pm »
Keep them coming.  I've been debating a Yoke/Star Wars cabinet build and this list is helping push me over the edge.  Outrun is not one I would have considered and am happy to see it is playable.  :cheers:

Outrun, Turbo Outrun, Outrunners all play well. The shifting with the triggers and gas pedal with the handles is very playable. The emulated game has a graphic showing whether you are in low or high gear. So far, not having a brake isn't a big downside. In the arcade, I would either let off the gas or down shift, so I do the same thing here. If you're the kind of person who would use the brake, that could be a deal breaker.

I'm done putting games on the list, but I suspect nearly all on rail shooters will work (as long as it's not a shoot off screen for a reload) will work. I have all the games I want on the list.

I wasn't really a brake guy but I do have an extra Atari throttle pedal and was thinking of working that into the cabinet.  I'd like to do a High/Low shifter as well but would need the knob to match the Star Wars aesthetic.     I'm thinking the Hyperdrive handles on the Falcon.  Dunno.

Has anyone tried Spyhunter with a Yoke?

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Re: Arcade games you can play with a Star Wars Yoke
« Reply #38 on: January 01, 2021, 12:48:23 am »
Spy hunter was a no for this for a couple reasons.

1.  Need 5 buttons. I could skip the van button and map it to another button, but it was a small hit to gameplay.

2. The monitor is 19” horizontal and since spyhunter is vertical, it would be a pretty small viewing angle.

3. I have no shifter on the cabinet and in my experience, I would need to map a button or use a low to high return to center shifter. There is no on screen display to show which gear you are in.

All adds up to a no go, but I really thought hard about it.


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Re: Arcade games you can play with a Star Wars Yoke
« Reply #39 on: January 01, 2021, 03:36:56 pm »
Spy hunter was a no for this for a couple reasons.

1.  Need 5 buttons. I could skip the van button and map it to another button, but it was a small hit to gameplay.

2. The monitor is 19” horizontal and since spyhunter is vertical, it would be a pretty small viewing angle.

3. I have no shifter on the cabinet and in my experience, I would need to map a button or use a low to high return to center shifter. There is no on screen display to show which gear you are in.

All adds up to a no go, but I really thought hard about it.

An appeal:

1. The van button always was a small hit to game play, you have to take one hand off the yoke and hit a button. Its just off to the side, and just as easy to hit.

2. I was surprised to find out the game rez is actually square. Its stretched out vertically--yes its a vertical game--but not by much. Look up some screen shots. As far as MAME goes, I think its square.

3. I mapped the shift to one of the yoke triggers, and the missile to one of the button panels. I like having the shift as a trigger (think paddle shifter) for one thing your right hand is never off your weapons. The missile is more single press, and lesser used (or Im not good enough to see many Mad Bombers...). I actually like having the missile launch button on the panel. I think the sound isn't working quite right or you could hear which gear you're in...

You'd need to adapt a little, but I think the game play is pretty good with the yoke! You have to eliminate your yokes dead zone if there is one.

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