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List of SD card hack, carts, alternative replacements to CD drive.
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--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on June 03, 2016, 12:58:54 am ---Don't take this the wrong way, but a lot of what other people do in this hobby doesn't make sense, not me. ;) I'm far too practical to spend a lot on a console that isn't particularly valuable. I refuse to rgb mod a NES, for example... it's just too costly. There is something to be said for running things on the original hardware, which is why I mentioned other, more practical, methods of playing games on a psx instead of just using a ps2. It's not necessarily a nostalgia thing. Many consoles are emulated well in terms of playability, but still have issues. 8 bit stuff is pretty well covered, 16 bit consoles sometimes have minor differences and anything beyond that ...well... it really depends.
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Don't take this the wrong way, but I don't think I'll ever agree with your POV, Howard. Too narrow-minded, always self-centered.
What you may think isn't valuable may be valuable to others. I don't get into the hobby of gaming for monetary gains, I'm in it to play games, in the most comfortable way I can. Adding an RGB-out to an NES for example just helps those who care about connecting it to a nice CRT like a PVM/BVM. Or using an upscaler for recording clean footage of your play-throughs...yeah yeah, people can upscale to connect to their modern TVs too, if you're into that.
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on June 03, 2016, 12:58:54 am ---You will notice that the flash carts I've been interested in have been on the lower end of the cost spectrum.... it isn't so much a cheapness thing but rather a practicality thing. I can make/buy usb adaptors for genesis gamepads for around 20 bucks (for two) and deal with having to have a pc in the living room or just spend another 20 to get a cart that plays genesis, master system, 32x and some game gear. That makes a lot of sense to me. N64 carts as well since the cost of games has sky-rocketed and n64 emulation still has issues even after all of these years.
My only point was to think before you buy and not get swept away in a nostalgia wave. Sometimes you can get more gaming for your money doing things the old fashioned way. (Just buying individual games.)
Personally I want to try and get an example of every major game console, but since budget is always a concern I'm going about it carefully. Right now Sony and Sega stuff is really cheap so it's a good time to buy. Odd-ball stuff like the tg16, vectrex, ect is at an all time high, so it's best to wait on those.
I hear you though, a sub 20 dollar psx purchase certainly isn't a big deal even if you use it as a wall hanger. Been thinking of picking one up myself and maybe the updated psone so I can finally have a use for all of those psone lcds. :)
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Again, these are such personal points that it doesn't fit everyone. I don't understand why you feel the need to come into this LIST thread and ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- on people's intents. It's a thread to list out the options, not spout off why you think it's unnecessary. Go start your own thread for that.
Good for you, you can make your own controller adapters and whatnot. :applaud: Not everyone has the technical expertise. So how does this point help others?
Another point, buying actual game carts is fine if you're into the pedestrian titles. But if you are looking for the more rare games, the cost is not practical.
Also, there have been many translation rom hack projects for games not released in North America, and these flash devices are great for playing games that we weren't privy to back then. Not forgetting some hack projects fix bugs some games shipped with, or improved on the gameplay a bit, or reverted the stupid censoring North America had BITD.
All in all, these devices are great, but if they don't suit you that's fine. There's no point in coming in and pooping on the party when it doesn't fit your needs. Just carry on, do you, and let the rest of us have our fun.
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--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on June 03, 2016, 03:26:32 pm ---I suggest you go back and actually read what I wrote. Nobody in this thread had a problem with it, just you, so you, are in fact the self-centered one and you, are, in fact the one that just ruined this thread.
Go back and read how you replied... it doesn't even make sense. I mentioned having to buy/make adaptors as a CON and yet you threw it back like I was listing it as a pro. You are acting like I have a problem with upscalers and yet, in this very forum I was in a thread talking about different upscalers we could try. I even made another reply about how it probably varies from person to person and how I could see a person spending a lot depending upon their circumstances.
I'm not sure, maybe you are drunk/high or maybe you've had a bad day or something, but you are putting words into my mouth, accusing me of saying things I didn't say or even allude to, not comprehending the things I did write.
Please apologize and delete your post so and I'll be glad to delete this response.
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opt2not:
I apologize for the adapter comment. I read it wrong, that's my bad, I have no problem admitting I was rash/wrong. For posterity's sake I'll just leave my post there. I'm not one to go back on what I put out in the world.
But I stand by my other point, this thread is for identifying the different options for flash devices, and optical drive alternative. It's not a thread made for personal views on what people do in this hobby, or why someone would pay x amount of money for something.
The NES RGB comment hit close to home, because I do value it as one of the best consoles ever made. Adding a proper video output for it just makes the console that much better, and if you have a need for using RGB, then the cost is nothing compared to the "nostalgia wave" you'll be surfing after installing this mod. It really breathed a lot of life back into my old NES. Yes, NES games are well emulated, but you cannot emulate the feeling of popping in a cartridge hitting the power button and playing a game within 10 secs on original hardware.
Everyone has a different situation, different incomes, and different dedications to their interests. I'm happy to pay for a product if was high quality. I won't pay for another China-cheapy piece of ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- hardware ever again. Most of the products listed here are of high quality, save for maybe a couple (like the EZ-Flash, which will be obsolete soon once the new GBA Everdrive is released).
Howard_Casto:
Actually if you were someone who was actually participating in the thread instead of butting in, you would realize that I asked about that a couple of days back and the response from the others was that this was the place to discuss such things. You see I was concerned of bogging the thread down with discussions others wouldn't appreciate, so I asked. We are all trying to figure out what is worth buying and what isn't. Cost obviously is going to come into the discussion.
See the problem is you are accusing me of forcing my views on others and yet, you are forcing your view, that cost doesn't matter, on to me. You even interrupted the discussion with a tie-raid to make your point.
What in the world are you so upset about?!? I gave the advice to (gasp!) think before you buy and to (double gasp!) be financially conservative. Oh dear god what reckless advice did I give! Someone alert the KGB!!!
Locke141:
For people that come into the tread late, I think Howard comet on talking about upscaler in this thread was actually about {url=http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,150683.0.html]this thread[/url].
opt2not I did not even consider what would be needed to upscaling a NES properly. That may change thing for me down the road.
Could we agree to all take a step back and say what ever. I think both of you made good points.
Here's a good question, what retro systems, accessories, or SD devises do you guys think are a good deal right now?
opt2not:
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on June 03, 2016, 08:25:04 pm ---Actually if you were someone who was actually participating in the thread instead of butting in, you would realize that I asked about that a couple of days back and the response from the others was that this was the place to discuss such things. You see I was concerned of bogging the thread down with discussions others wouldn't appreciate, so I asked. We are all trying to figure out what is worth buying and what isn't. Cost obviously is going to come into the discussion.
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Excuse me? I am someone who is and has been participating in this thread. I've been participating to this thread much earlier than you have, and I've actually contributed to the list whereas your first post in this thread was praising said list, then your second post was your standard `Howard-style criticism`: "I don't understand this about people" , "Doing this and that doesn't make sense to me"...ad nauseam. You see the pattern here don't you?
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on June 03, 2016, 08:25:04 pm ---See the problem is you are accusing me of forcing my views on others and yet, you are forcing your view, that cost doesn't matter, on to me. You even interrupted the discussion with a tie-raid to make your point.
What in the world are you so upset about?!? I gave the advice to (gasp!) think before you buy and to (double gasp!) be financially conservative. Oh dear god what reckless advice did I give! Someone alert the KGB!!!
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So by telling people to be financially conservative you are not forcing your views on people? Please. No one is going to tell me how to spend my hard-earned cash.
Talking about the price is fine, people should definitely be aware of the cost for these quality products. But pushing your views on what you think is worth said price isn't. Let people decide what is too expensive and what isn't.
I don't think we'll ever agree on a particular subject. Our views are drastically different.
I'm just going to leave it as that.
--- Quote from: Locke141 on June 03, 2016, 08:33:00 pm ---opt2not I did not even consider what would be needed to upscaling a NES properly. That may change thing for me down the road.
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Yeah I know what's needed. I have my NES Mini modded for RGB, even uses a MultiAV connector:
Here's the RGB board installed:
For upscaling I took the plunge and got myself a XRGB-Mini, 'cause like I said, I like quality products and am willing to spend a bit more for them. Should you do the same? That's your call, based on your situation. I'm not going to tell you how to spend your money.
But, I can say the Mini is an amazing piece of hardware, it has so many scaling options, screen adjustments, and firmware updates are constantly being released. I love the fact you can save profiles for different systems and displays you're using.
I've been really happy with this set-up.
--- Quote from: Locke141 on June 03, 2016, 08:33:00 pm ---Here's a good question, what retro systems, accessories, or SD devises do you guys think are a good deal right now?
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I would say the Original Gameboy is a good system to get into now. You can find them easily, and they're the last of the Nintendo hardware that is still affordable and hasn't blown up crazy like other Nintendo stuff.
I recently backlight modded a couple Gameboy Pockets, and have been enjoying playing games off my EverdriveGB with a nice back-lit screen:
Original games are still cheap, you can find the standard titles for $10-20 these days, a bit higher for rares. Pokemons are also usually higher, but that's a given due to all the pokemon fans out there (not including myself, I didn't get into Pokemon BITD and I think it's too late now).
Second to that: Sega Genesis. It seems that Genesis consoles and games are still on the cheaper end of the spectrum. I don't know how long this will last, but right now you can a Genesis for about the same price as a Original Gameboy. I haven't picked one up yet, but been considering it.
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