BYOAC Talking Dead - Walking Dead Season 5

[jdbailey1206]

• Holy ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- that was violent.  Looks like Ill be sleeping soundly tonight.

• Im excited we get to see Negan.  My favorite love to hate fictional character.

• Pretty sure that Carol killed Zombie Andrea in the beginning.

[Ginsu Victim]

That wasn't Negan.

[DaOld Man]

Very good episode!!

[jdbailey1206]

That wasn't Negan.

Yup.  Good catch Ginsu.  It is supposed to be the guy with the face tattoos in the beginning of the episode.  I think someone needs to fire the lighting guy and director of photography.   

[Vigo]

Good Episode. Glad they are not spending another season with the groups split up.

Trying to decide if Tyreese punched the guy to death, or just knocked him out and lied to Carol so that she wouldn't go inside and kill him. I suppose if it follows the comics, he punched him to death. Anyone know what NFL team Tyreese played for in the comics? I am hoping it is the Ravens or the Vikings. 

[HaRuMaN]

Pretty sure Tyrese beat that dude to death.

[horizon]

I thought it was a great episode while viewing, but then got let down a little after.  There was SUCH a build up to Terminus and within 38 minutes, place is destroyed.  Tehn on top of that, the explanation of why is very short, after the episode. 

I did like how they "welcomed back" Carol.  Pretty sure the dude at the end was the crazy guy from a season ago in town, and the dude who originally "helped" Rick in season 1, but forgot his name.

Kind of wish there was a spoiler tag we could use on the forum.   

[Malenko]

Pretty sure the dude at the end was the crazy guy from a season ago in town, and the dude who originally "helped" Rick in season 1, but forgot his name.

Kind of wish there was a spoiler tag we could use on the forum.   

Morgan Jones and yes it was him.  SPOILER: We have spoiler tags

[horizon]

I was looking for a GUI tag, like the insert quote button, or the subscript button.

I'm an idiot

[Malenko]

like this?

[horizon]

Yes:

[Malenko]

use SMF Default Theme - Curve instead of the theme you are using?

[horizon]

Works now!  Thanks Malenko!  I was using the board default.

[Malenko]

happy to help!   

[Ginsu Victim]

Pretty sure Tyrese beat that dude to death.

On The Talking Dead, they show who died in the episode they are discussing.

He wasn't shown.

[thomas_surles]

Pretty sure Tyrese beat that dude to death.

On The Talking Dead, they show who died in the episode they are discussing.

He wasn't shown.

But neither were the zombies he killed when he go sent out the door.

Talking dead only recaps kills that you actually see(usually)

[jdbailey1206]

Pretty sure Tyrese beat that dude to death.

On The Talking Dead, they show who died in the episode they are discussing.

He wasn't shown.

Yeah Carol gave the shack a look like "I should make sure that guy is dead because Tyreese acts like a 7 year old girl when it comes to killing."

I have a feeling the dude in the ballcap is gonna come back to haunt the group, end up killing someone and that will send Tyreese over the edge.  And Tyreese will kill the guy in turn.  Like Upham in Saving Private Ryan with the nazi.

[eds1275]

I thought that the whole Terminus thing was silly. Last episode, they get there and withing 3 minutes have guns out, are captured and thrown in a rail car. It really, REALLY got rushed. Now, one episode in, it's all over already. My predictions were wrong... and since spoiler tags are in:

I thought that Carol wouldn't give the baby back to Rick because I thought she was going to claim the baby for herself after losing ALL THE CHILDREN. Also, I thought that they kept showing Michonne and Carl getting close because the Governor was going to kill Carl in front of her the way she killed Penny. I hate Carl, and wish that did happen.

[jdbailey1206]

I hope they take his eye like they did in the comic.

[yotsuya]

I've never seen an episode.

[jdbailey1206]

I've never seen an episode.

I think this was established last year...Too lazy to double check.

[yotsuya]

I've never seen an episode.

I think this was established last year...Too lazy to double check.

SPOILERS!!!

[jdbailey1206]

I've never seen an episode.

I think this was established last year...Too lazy to double check.

SPOILERS!!!

Oops.  Sorry about that Yotsuya!

[DaOld Man]

Terminus is not yet done, looks like.

[jdbailey1206]

Looks like Bob doesnt have a leg to stand on!   

[Vigo]

I am pretty sure in the end they showed that guy from the shack that Tyreese "Killed".

[thomas_surles]

I am pretty sure in the end they showed that guy from the shack that Tyreese "Killed".

yeah they did. They mentioned that on talking dead

[Ginsu Victim]

Looks like Bob doesnt have a leg to stand on!   

If this goes where I think it's going (like what happens to Dale in the comic), it's going to be great.

[jdbailey1206]

Looks like Bob doesnt have a leg to stand on!   

If this goes where I think it's going (like what happens to Dale in the comic), it's going to be great.

Bob is rather passive.  I hope he has enough gusto to do it like Dale did and not start crying like a girl.  I would have loved to see Dale survive in the tv series just so I could see this scene play out with him.  I know Jeffrey DeMunn would have done an excellent job.  I was excited when they cast him as Dale.  It sucked to see him go in the first season.

[Vigo]

Agreed completely. This was Dale's finest hour, and I hope Bob can pull it off.

[thomas_surles]

We don't need another one legged guy. They just got rid of one.

[horizon]

We don't need another one legged guy. They just got rid of one.

This made me lol.  Well played. 

I was disappointed to see the cabin guy alive, but I think this basically makes Tyrese a dead man walking character. Sadly, I think he will kill Carol when the mob turns on him.   

[Ginsu Victim]

We don't need another one legged guy. They just got rid of one.

Bob's a goner. No worries.

[AzureKnight]

I'm going to start with a disclaimer:  I'm not watching the show.

That being said, two of my buddies are embroiled in a debate about it so I thought I would post it here. 

The crux:  Would people need to resort to cannibalism in this scenario?

Argument For:  yes, it is a viable means of hunting, lure people in and eat them.  There just wouldn't be enough game/farming/scavenging available for 100 people.

Argument Against:  no, there would be no need.  Zombies are slow and not that dangerous.  Deer and small game restock fast enough that you can hunt easily for 100 people.

I'm just enjoying the argument, I said they should eat the Zombies...plentiful, easy to kill and it helps solve the problem 

So if anyone wants to join that argument I thought I would spread it 

[horizon]

I think hunting and farming assumes you have the necessary tools and knowledge to do either.  I think the mindset of kill or be killed is different than, hey! lets go cannibal! The group was obviously mentally damaged from the group raping and pillaging they endured. 

I guess, for me, if it meant survival versus death from starvation, I'd eat some bitches.

[Vigo]

OK, here is a well thought out answer.

One thing that I got from the show is that the zombies don't just eat humans, but small deer and game. They have shown them chowing on deer or pigs. Not sure how much that impacts the stock, but Being that Darryl, the big hunter of the group, only manages to catch squirrel, I just assumed certain large game have become scarce.

Farming is hindered because all it takes are a group of raiders or a heard of zombies to destroy everything. Zombies herd by the thousands in this show, and trample everything and eat anything living. You would need a farm that is very well secured and room for livestock that can graze. You can't rely on crops alone, because they yield only a short time of the year.  I would think the safest bet would be securing a fruit orchard with canning equipment, since this is Georgia, I assume there would be plenty of peach orchards.
 
But at the same time, I think most people would not resort to eating people, and if they got hungry enough that they needed to, they probably wouldn't have the strength to fight off walkers. I read about that there were a couple cases of cannibalism during the great potato famine in Ireland. They lost about 1 million people to hunger in a few short years. Leads me to believe there would be a few isolated incidents, especially with the lack of any law or authority.

The big thing that I don't believe is that they are so organized about it. The random fellow knifing any survivor they find and grilling them up seems a lot more believable. Those terminus people were pretty much basting people in sweet baby rays and slow cooking them to perfection over a grill large enough to feed 100 people. Then keeping multiple meat storage rooms, Killing 8 people at a time, and storing them without refrigeration systems to feed what looked like only 20 people.


The TL;DR version. Cannibalism = Yes. Organized Cannibalism towns = No.

[thomas_surles]

Possible spoiler warning...

So my wife had a solid thought. Neither of us has read the comics.
She thinks Bob was originally from terminus. Which explains why he was
An alcoholic last season and why he was alone. He couldn't handle it anymore
So he left terminus. And last episode that dick ---meecrob--- guy was saying something
Along the lines of "it a coincidence it was you" or something of that nature.
And we think he got bit and that is why he went out for a cry.

[Ginsu Victim]

And we think he got bit and that is why he went out for a cry.

That's why his death (and those eating him) is going to be so awesome.

[jdbailey1206]

Bob was definitely crying because he was bit.  I dont think he was associated with Terminus in any way.  I believe he was an alcoholic because of his experience with war.  In my opinion his life before the apocolypse was abnormal.  He had no one to love, he saw too much violence and his life was general ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---.  But now that was turned on its head and now he has recieved some stability.  (ie asking Sasha for a second kiss.  He knew he would never recieve it again.)  And it was completely ruined by one walker.   He knew he was going to die soon enough when he went outside.  Then Gareth and his band of ---meecrobs--- put the nail in the coffin by taking his leg. 

But within the next episode I believe we will see Bob accept his fate.  Like Dale in the comic I believe Bob will reveal that he was bitten and a sadistic smile will grow on his face knowing he inivertly saved the group from the Termites.





...Bob will be awesome but I still would have loved to seen Dale do it.

[DaOld Man]

About cannibalism: just for a side field trip, watch the movie "The Road". Last time I checked it was available on Netflix. Not a movie about zombies, but will make you think about what could happen if the world breaks down.