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CCM:

--- Quote from: DaOld Man on December 01, 2014, 09:21:26 am ---Bye Bye Beth, Bye bye.
Did anyone watch Talking Dead?
That girl crying her eyes out over loosing her job.
She needs to suck it up and Im sure sci-fi or someone will offer her a part in a movie. The name Walking Dead should carry some weight.

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I don't think she was necessarily crying about losing her job.  Pretty much every interview with any cast member, they talk about how close they are and how they have become a family.  So, she is more upset about not being part of that than she is about a pay check.   They showed interviews with both Norman Reedus and Lauren Cohan and they were crying as well, and they didn't lose their jobs...  yet.
Vigo:

--- Quote from: DaOld Man on December 01, 2014, 11:15:10 am ---(Cant remember her name, the one Beth stabbed.)

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I think her name was Dawn.

Beth was a weak character in the show until this season. It is good they had a chance to build her up before knocking her down. I'm pretty surprised that only she died that episode. My prediction was that Beth and Carol would both be slaughtered, sending Daryl into a hillbilly rage.

The way I read Dawn was that she set up a system where the strong take advantage of the weak. Everything is a pecking order and Beth and Noah were captured so that everyone could take advantage of them. The minute Dawn saw Beth as a strong person, she was no longer subject to that abuse.

I translated Beth's final act as a Clint Eastwood Gran Torino moment.  Beth had to expect she was gonna be shot, but hoped to take Dawn down with her. It was such a weak attack, and I don't think she is that dumb.

I didn't quite catch what she was referring to when she said "I understand now", but figure it was a reference to that the only way to challenge her authority was to kill her. Like Dawn had killed her mentor, or like how that other cop had no option but to fight her to the death since he had challenged her authority.
dkersten:
What pissed me off was in the commercial break right before, the "Talking Dead" clip said there would be a special cast member guest that we wouldn't want to miss.. That only meant one thing - that a regular cast member was going to die, and that was going to be either Carol or Beth, and from the point on I was expecting it.  When it happened, I didn't get the "shock value" because of the expectation, and without that part, it was an incredibly pointless death.  When they showed the clip again in "Talking Dead", it again didn't make any sense. 

Thing is, I saw Beth at that point as I did my daughter this weekend when we had an argument.  She just had to get the last word in, regardless of the consequences.  In my case, my daughter lost her car for a few days, in the show Beth lost her life for essentially the same thing.  Just stupid in both cases, and childish.  It made me see her as the weak character she always was, and also made me see the entire effort to get her back as one colossal waste of time.

And in the end, when they all put down their guns, Rick said anyone who wants to join them can go, and nobody (other than limpy) went with them...  So it added nothing to the overall story, imho.  Just a waste of effort.

On the other hand, look at Rick in this.  He kind of turned into a dick.  He runs the guy down for not stopping, then just shoots him in cold blood, and seemingly only because he was annoyed by the guy begging for his life.  "Shut up" he mutters as he turns away after shooting the guy.  WTF.  I do like that in Talking Dead they said how Rick basically turned into Shane, except it just took him longer to get to where Shane was back when Rick killed him.  I am not all that happy about this, frankly, because the thing I liked about Rick was that he was different, he thought things through and didn't just act first.  Now he just seems to be acting without thinking about it. 

Overall a weak note to end the mid season on, and not only do we have to wait nearly 3 months for the next episode, even the new series "Better call Saul" doesn't start until Feb also.. FFS, if you are going to end the one show that people tune in for for three months, at least start another show so people have a reason to turn to your channel..  Who is the brilliant guy at AMC who was thinking "You know, I don't think we need viewers to watch our channel for the next three months, so let's just not have anything new until then.. "

yotsuya:
This whole concept of "Mid-Season Cliffhangers!!!111!!!" just ticks me off. Although I don't watch Walking Dead, I've had to endure the same stupid crap with Mad Men. Patiently waiting for the spring to see the second half of season that should have already been finished last spring.
jdbailey1206:

--- Quote from: yotsuya on December 01, 2014, 12:50:51 pm ---This whole concept of "Mid-Season Cliffhangers!!!111!!!" just ticks me off.

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+1. Gotham and Sleepy Hollow have taken to doing this ---That which is odiferous and causeth plants to grow--- also.
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