Fanatec CSR + Demul

[Malenko]

Anyone have any luck setting this up? I can get my wheel to work in EVERYTHING except DEMUL. Is there a different Atomiswave emulator that supports wheels?  I have an actual Faster than Speed cab (with both Faster than Speed and Maximum Speed carts) and I'd love to be able to compare the Fanatec and emulation to the real thing.

[SegaOutrun]

what issue does it give you? does it not recognize it at all? or is it too sensitive and keeps reading one of the axis all the time? if its the second one, it is doable. when setting up the pad, it would always read one of my axis. you just have to be patient and keep hitting the button or axis you want to it to read. for example, if mapping the brake, keep hitting "map" the brake with your foot on the break. itll take 5 or 6 times but it will finally read the correct axis, same thing with buttons. it all about timing.

Ive got a good setup and faster than speed still hiccups from time to time. maximum speed i dont play because i think its weird. you go from 0 to 200 in a second and when you turn more than 5 degrees, the tires screech alot. it get annoying. i couldnt find a video of the gameplay of the actual arcade version so i dont know if its just a poorly made game or if the emulator is messing it up

[Malenko]

as soon as I hit the button to map its mapping something. Im sure I can get the gas, brake, start and nitrous button mapped using the method you described, but I have my doubts about the wheel.

The way you describe maximum speed is accurate to the actual cab. Its also impossible to come in first place unless the lap count is increased from 6 to 8 laps.

[SegaOutrun]

its likely mapping a pedal. i turned down to sensitivity to from 100 to 5 windows and marked them as combined so it wouldnt read the pedal while i mapped everything else. and then i mapped the problematic pedal last. it take a bit of work but it doable

[BadMouth]

No experience with the CSR pedals, but with a G27 the clutch pedal will register constantly unless it is held exactly halfway down.

Also, Demul works better with the pedals combined to a single axis if that's an option for you.

[BadMouth]

Just a heads up if you can't combine pedals....

A lot of older games assumed the pedals to be combined (or that you're using an analog joystick).
If you have problems with a menu scrolling uncontrollably, the game most likely was made for combined pedals and is seeing the axis not being centered.
Holding the gas pedal halfway down can help.  Some games accept separate pedals when mapping controls, but they still screw with the menus. 

This isn't an issue with newer games.

The crazy thing is combined pedals work for everything EXCEPT Model 2 emulator....which is the most important IMO.

[Malenko]

I can combine pedals, I'll give it a whirl after the football game.  I'll also try holding the clutch in when I map the wheel

[Malenko]

so the clutch was the issue. New issue is.....what maps to what?!?!?!

[BadMouth]

so the clutch was the issue. New issue is.....what maps to what?!?!?!

As of .5.8 (.5.6 and .5.7 are different) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aq37CSO6oe1fdDNFWlp6X2tGaE91djN6RDlMVDFBOUE&usp=sharing#gid=0

Also posted in the demul section of the driving cab info thread. 

[Malenko]

I just mapped one thing at a time with the I/o test up

got everything working, I need tweak the steering just a bit. Assuming there is no force feedback in DEMUL?



edit: You have high low needing to be held, I have them mapped to the paddle shifters on my CSR wheel. They don't have to be held, and on a side note, they aren't held in place on the actual machine either.

[BadMouth]

edit: You have high low needing to be held, I have them mapped to the paddle shifters on my CSR wheel. They don't have to be held, and on a side note, they aren't held in place on the actual machine either.

noted.  Could be a change from .58 to .582 ?
I know I wouldn't have added that for no reason.

[Malenko]

Also posted in the demul section of the driving cab info thread. 

I was looking in the "what to play thread"  Id suggest linking it there too.  Is there a console set up section? I know how to do PS2 with the plug in, but I have no clue how I'm going to make Mario Kart or any other N64 games work with the wheel

[nugarp]

Assuming there is no force feedback in DEMUL?

It worked once for me.."worked." Instead of making my wheel vibrate, it made a random 360 wired controller vibrate. I exited out because it was driving me crazy, and ever since then I get an HRESULT error whenever I laugh Demul. AHK skips it just fine, but no ffb.

[Malenko]

Ive got a good setup and faster than speed still hiccups from time to time. maximum speed i dont play because i think its weird. you go from 0 to 200 in a second and when you turn more than 5 degrees, the tires screech alot. it get annoying. i couldnt find a video of the gameplay of the actual arcade version so i dont know if its just a poorly made game or if the emulator is messing it up

After playing them both the emulation is spot on, right down to the super annoying beeping sound when you play Maximum Speed.  I'll try to take a vid of my machine in action.

[BadMouth]

After playing them both the emulation is spot on, right down to the super annoying beeping sound when you play Maximum Speed.  I'll try to take a vid of my machine in action.

   IIRC, the beeping sound is the rev limiter and it only does it one one of the transmission options.
The problem is that it still beeps after you're in top gear. 
I'd much rather have had a light instead.

[nugarp]

Are the controls in faster than speed as bad as it seems to be on demul for me? Not sure if I need to adjust sensitivity settings or anything, or maybe I'm not used to the driving style in that game...I admittedly haven't played it enough.

[Malenko]

Are the controls in faster than speed as bad as it seems to be on demul for me? Not sure if I need to adjust sensitivity settings or anything, or maybe I'm not used to the driving style in that game...I admittedly haven't played it enough.

Controls DEFINITELY take some getting used to. Apparently there are some "special moves" you can do, and I cant figure them out. For example, the U turn 1/2 way through the second stage of the beginner course. one time I pulled off a power slide / Drift around the turn and it was great. Unfortunately Ive never been able to pull it off a second time.  I think both games could use some tweaking but I wouldnt know where to begin.  Im going to hop on the machine when I get home and see if the the rev limiter beep is present on both transmission types on the real deal in Maximum Speed.

The worst thing is when I pull one cart for the other, I need to change all my settings again in the operator menu (setting free play and lap count in Maximum Speed; and setting free play, unlocking all the cars, and free selecting courses in Faster than Speed)


@BadMouth: I think you had them set to "must be switched" because its a 2 way shifter on the arcade cab. But the shifter itself returns to neutral.

[nugarp]

Thanks. I'll give it another go some time this week!

[Malenko]

maximum speed i dont play because i think its weird. you go from 0 to 200 in a second and when you turn more than 5 degrees, the tires screech alot. it get annoying. i couldnt find a video of the gameplay of the actual arcade version so i dont know if its just a poorly made game or if the emulator is messing it up

I made a video for you and BadMouth!