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Vigo:


--- Quote from: yotsuya on September 19, 2014, 11:13:02 am ---Posts like these are why I have a mancrush on Vigo.

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It's mutual. I usually start mancrushing on yotsuya when he brings up what elements make a well designed cabinet. The man has impeccable taste, what can I say? :cheers:

JDFan:


--- Quote from: Vigo on September 19, 2014, 11:07:06 am ---Here is a good thread to read where someone was recently scammed on elance. I think it is a good example of why many of us are quick to be upset with elance.

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,140416

I think it is totally fine that you know what you paid for and are happy with it. Sounds like a good scenario. As long as you are comfortable with the legality situation, then I am happy you are satisfied with the outcome.  :cheers:

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And here is the follow up thread on his cocktail cabinet build ( http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,140688.msg1457070.html#msg1457070 ) and a pic of the finished cabinet ( note on the pac man side he had me resize the image smaller as he was planning on putting an aluminum kickplate at the bottom to avoid damage if the player kicked but forgot to attach it before placing the artwork so left it off - which is why it sits low and does not cover the side properly !)

And I agree with Vigo -- If they told you what you were getting and you are happy with it then I see no problems (though I try to stick to public domain art  or contacting the original artist for permission - ie. on the cocktail cab used art released by Nintendo etc. to publicize their game ) -- If on the other hand they are trying to tell you the are doing original art that they design then that's another thing.





shponglefan:


--- Quote from: Slugworth on September 19, 2014, 08:23:29 am ---Good to know.  Though, I will say it's a little odd hearing so many people in this forum talk about copyright infringement, when I'd bet exactly 0% of the people who build a MAME own the copyrights to all the artwork (especially given how many different versions of cosmic frostbite I've seen floating around!), and all of the games they load up on it.  Could be I'm just skeptical.... maybe everyone here actually owns a physical copy of the 4,000+ games they load on to their machines?

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TBH, I think most people don't care that much about using copyrighted images on their cabinets or controllers.  The reality is, without copyright infringement, the majority of this hobby would not exist.

For me, though, it's more the idea that paying someone to steal and Photoshop pre-existing images is in any way comparable to paying a real artist to create something original.  It's not.  The former is cheap, because there isn't really any content creation involved.  It's incredibly easy to just download some pics, and resize or add an overlay in Photoshop.  But to create the images from scratch takes a lot of time and skill to pull off.  Which is why a real artist would likely charge hundreds if not thousands of dollars to create something original.

thatpurplestuff:

Figured I would chime in really quick, not to get into the legality/morality debate but just to comment on the actual work involved in resizing those images.  In my mind, $40 is way too much to be spending on a simple resize job like this (especially given that some people here probably would have done it for free).

A program like GIMP is a free alternative to Photoshop that provides all you would need to resize images, and it is an incredible simple process.  No joke, people with no design experience whatsoever could be resizing their images within 20-30 minutes of downloading the software and reading a tutorial or two online.  Any printer worth their salt can work with TIF files, and that is a format that both Photoshop and GIMP are capable of creating.

Not knocking the thread creator, I'm just hoping to prevent future BYOAC'ers from giving $40 to someone for work that probably took less than 5 minutes of actual work.

Tutorial on resizing using GIMP.  It describes the difference between resizing the canvas and resizing the image, and shows you how to do both. -> https://www.suse.com/communities/conversations/gimp-tips-part-1-resizing-images/
Tutorial on saving TIF files: http://graphicssoft.about.com/od/gimptutorials/tp/save-tiff.htm

Vigo:

I think another real point that needs to be made is that when art is ripped off, there is often a real artist who could have been paid for their art. Most Mame games are from companies that no longer exist, and frankly the games would no longer exist either if they were not preserved by the mame developers. There is nobody tangible to pay for these games. (we also get upset with anyone who tries to sell roms)

While they might be illegal to use roms in a technical sense, to us it is often very justified because of all the preservation done, and it took our support to save ten thousands games that would have been otherwise lost. This is spirit of the law vs letter of the law stuff.

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