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Author Topic: Maybe we don’t call you ‘C-Type’ anymore?  (Read 5347 times)

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Maybe we don’t call you ‘C-Type’ anymore?
« on: January 27, 2020, 05:34:47 pm »
I think I’m ready to commit to this build now.
My goal is to mimic a Contra cab, vertical screen, two players. Will be looking for advice as I work through this one, slowly work through this one...
I have also been dabbling in RGB modding crt’s. Found a nice Toshiba 27a43 locally for $20, I really like the picture on these Toshibas, I have a 32 that old consoles look really nice on. (Also tried a 21” No-name brand, but wasn’t able to successfully rgb mod it).
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Re: C-Type
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2020, 05:45:47 pm »
Performing the RGB was not terribly difficult on this TV thanks to all the info on the shmups forum and the nice folks here and over there as well. I wired it to a vga plug that I savagely tore from an old lcd screen, I highly recommend this for PC Mame builds. So nice to not have any adapters just plug in with a cheap effective vga cable, we won’t discuss the time it takes to get crt-emudriver and groovymame all sorted... with a great picture results, in my opinion, I set out today to build a frame. It’s pretty solid and almost square! Lol
Tried rotating these images, but this is the way BYOC wants ‘em  :o no idea how to take good pictures of a crt in action, but it looks good irl
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Re: C-Type
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2020, 03:03:47 am »
Got my GFX card in the mail the other day, Dell AMD 8490 1gig.. will start the PC build soon I'm sure.
Anyone have advice on where to find dimensions for a Konami Contra cab? want to keep it as close to original as possible.

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Re: C-Type
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2020, 11:44:01 am »
Couldn't find plans on any of the sites I know about.

https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model/e313ce15f5c3699115000ab5e56184f5/Super-Contra-arcade-game?hl=en

That's a 3D model though - might help?

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Re: C-Type
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2020, 06:32:43 pm »
That’s a huge help thank you, meyer980!
Just made this purchase today from a local guy via buy and sell .. coin door doesn’t really scream Contra but it’s kinda cool.. bunch of happ style buttons.
Anyone know anything about these Wico sticks? He had a bunch new in box, I grabbed one to try.

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Re: C-Type
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2020, 06:40:14 pm »
I think those Wico are well regarded, but I'm a bit new yet. I sure as heck would have grabbed a few for right price. That coin door is neat... Are the two silver bits housings for buttons?

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Re: C-Type
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2020, 06:43:50 pm »
No that’s where you drop in the quarter, different eh?
This guy wanted a bit steep price for the sticks unfortunately, but they do suit my theme if they perform well. Was thinking of using servo sticks, because of the vertical set up a four way would be very handy

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Re: C-Type
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2020, 01:22:37 pm »
Working on a concept for art, maybe I can find an artist help me realise this. Do you think the C-Type name is too much of a stretch, considering r-type is not a vertical shooter and would not play on this machine..

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Re: C-Type
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2020, 12:22:11 pm »
No opinions yet?  :'(
Looking at what this oversized monitor will do to the overall shape and asthetic... do I keep the reatios all around or do I simply stretch it vertically?

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Re: C-Type
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2020, 02:09:00 pm »
I would stretch it vertically.  Maybe take an inch or 2 off of the bottom so it doesn't get too out of proportion.

I'm not a fan of the art but that's just because I wouldn't want 6 ft. army men in my house.  There is definitely some cool Contra-related art out there if you Google so I don't think it is a bad idea for a theme.

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Re: C-Type
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2020, 02:19:24 pm »
Do you think the C-Type name is too much of a stretch, considering r-type is not a vertical shooter and would not play on this machine..

Yeah. The name needs to be changed. Just go all in on Contra. That is a good name.

I am not a fan of the army men either. However, I don't have a better idea right now.

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Re: C-Type
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2020, 03:24:06 pm »
I didn’t realize the name was a mashup of Contra and R-Type. Eek!

Why not just full camo the sides and add your new name/logo?
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Re: C-Type
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2020, 04:17:23 pm »
Just made this purchase today from a local guy via buy and sell .. coin door doesn’t really scream Contra but it’s kinda cool..
You could figure out a way of making it scream Contra.  I was thinking of an idea using a vinyl sticker of the Stage 3 boss (NES Contra) that could go over that the Owl Eye coindoor, using the slots as its eyes:


or the Stage 3 Arcade boss (Garmakilma):



Purists might not want artwork on a coindoor, but I figured if you're struggling with getting this door to feel like it belongs on a Contra theme, something along these lines could help.


Working on a concept for art, maybe I can find an artist help me realise this. Do you think the C-Type name is too much of a stretch, considering r-type is not a vertical shooter and would not play on this machine..
Yeah, C-Type has got to go.  Both games have nothing to do with each other, other than having a theme of fighting aliens. But that could be hundreds of arcade games...

Like others have said, go full-on Contra and nix the mash-up idea.  A Contra tribute cabinet would be pretty sweet.  You could give it a cool name that relates to the Contra Universe. 
Off the top of my head:

- Red Falcon (Red Falcon is the terrorist organization Bill and Lance are fighting against)
- Contra Clash
- Contra Band  ( :lol )
- Contra Continuum 
- Contra Attack
- Contra Gryzor
- C to shining C
- Mission: Contra

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Re: C-Type
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2020, 04:31:38 pm »
I like the name Red Falcon.  Could probably come up with some good artwork for that.

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Re: C-Type
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2020, 08:22:49 pm »
Oh wow, now I have plenty to think about lol.
Ok the name can go, watch this space for an update on the theme. The giant army men are a little erotic, my wife will adopt unrealistic expectations of men if those two are hanging around all day...
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Re: C-Type
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2020, 06:04:05 pm »
Went back to the local buy and sell guy and grabbed two more sticks today. Now I have 2 eight-way and a four-way Wico stick. They’re all new in box and have a pretty unique feel. Now I have to decide if I should have a third dedicated 4-way stick, might be a little ugly..
Question, are there any or many vertical games that use more than three buttons?
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Re: Maybe we don’t call you ‘C-Type’ anymore?
« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2020, 02:25:22 am »
I'll answer the question early in the morning but after having coffee this time,  "NO" :) see the following from when I made a list previously, list is not exact though. 

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,118586.msg1256467.html#msg1256467

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Re: Maybe we don’t call you ‘C-Type’ anymore?
« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2020, 06:45:41 am »
Thanks!

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Re: Maybe we don’t call you ‘C-Type’ anymore?
« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2020, 03:19:47 pm »
Little update. I’ve just been gathering components for this build, got some locks and nice button head bolts off eBay in mail recently, found a graphics card and my brother donated a motherboard and components to the cause this summer.
Was out looking at plywood yesterday, does anyone have an opinion on 3/4” Aspen?

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Re: Maybe we don’t call you ‘C-Type’ anymore?
« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2020, 11:24:40 pm »
I have been using poplar and birch so I don't know why aspen wouldn't work (as long as it is 3/4")
Is it the fancy new stuff that is supposed to be nicer to inhale the dust from and smells like Elmers glue?!
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Re: Maybe we don’t call you ‘C-Type’ anymore?
« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2020, 12:47:07 am »
Not sure Bobby, lol. Saw some in Home Depot in 1/2” (3/4 was out of stock) and it looked nice. Did some stuff with 3/4 birch this summer and it’s pretty hard stuff.. slow cutting. Thought maybe Aspen would be easier, probably just like poplar.

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Re: Maybe we don’t call you ‘C-Type’ anymore?
« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2020, 04:34:54 pm »
Used 3/4" birch plywood on mine. Curious if the aspen plywood is smoother? Might have to take a trip to the depot.

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Re: Maybe we don’t call you ‘C-Type’ anymore?
« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2020, 12:54:15 am »
Drafted up the basic shape in Sketchup, got the dimensions of my oversized screen in there and stretched and configured the cab to fit it.. I hope it still retains the spirit of an OG Contra cab



Bolted the donated components of the PC to a slab of MDF yesterday, got it up and running today with Windows 10.
Aspen Plywood is just waiting in the garage for me to make some cuts..



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Re: Maybe we don’t call you ‘C-Type’ anymore?
« Reply #23 on: November 24, 2020, 07:40:04 pm »
Made some progress this weekend, took a stab at Groovy Arcade. GA is a great product, getting used to Linux is interesting but it’s a nice all in one solution to get groovymame going on a crt   Even has Attract Mode configured and ready, would like to know the trick to this because on my last cab I was having a heck of a time getting attract mode to run in SD and not crash my system with resolution changes.

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Re: Maybe we don’t call you ‘C-Type’ anymore?
« Reply #24 on: November 25, 2020, 02:06:18 am »
Stoked for you.
Always fun to see that it works, yeah?

The cabinet dimensions still look excellent.

PLUS...

You now have a little more real estate for whatever your final agonizing graphic treatment choice is!
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« Reply #25 on: November 25, 2020, 07:05:12 am »
That monitor is really big for that style of cab.

It is going to be noticeably "in your face".

I like the traditional lines of your cab. It will look good with artwork applied.

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Re: Maybe we don’t call you ‘C-Type’ anymore?
« Reply #26 on: November 25, 2020, 12:32:02 pm »
Your totally right Mike, I was trying to find a 22” or 25” tube to hack but 27s are way more common.. it’s what I found, but the Toshiba is awesome I prefer it over my WEGA for sure.