Anybody using a Fanatec (GT2) with X360CE/M2/PCSX2 and get FFB to work?

[nugarp]

I've been trying to get my GT2 wheel to work with FFB on the Model 2 emulator and PCSX2. The way I currently have it set up is to go through x360ce.

The reason I had to do this for M2 was that if I had XInput = off, M2 would crash whenever I tried to configure any game's controller mappings. I read that the crashing could be caused by having multiple controllers plugged in when mapping and as of right now I have 2x Vjoy, 2x wired 360, 2x aimtrak, and a GT2 wheel plugged in. I will try removing all of the other controllers and just configuring with the wheel tonight - hoping that M2 doesn't crash.

I also had to use x360ce to get the wheel to work with the qemu usb plugin for PCSX2.

In both cases, when I configure my GT2 as a wheel in x360ce and turn on FFB, when testing the motors - only the right motor test works and it moves my wheel counter-clockwise only. If I change the FFB type that x360 offers to the second option, then the wheel just vibrates instead of providing actual FFB.

It's probably worth noting that Hydro Thunder Hurricane on 360 also just turns my wheel counter-clockwise. I would love for this game to work but I fear there's not much I can do for that one. Other games like Forza, Dirt, etc. on 360, Model 3, and PC games all work just fine with FFB.

Anyone have any ideas? Is the wheel just incompatible? Is there some advanced setting I need to change? For M2, PCSX2, and for HTH.

Thanks in advance!

[BadMouth]

No experience with the wheel, but.....

1. Xinput doesn't support directional force feedback, only rumble.  So whatever you do, you will never have real ffb if using x360ce.

2.  Model 2 should work after mapping the controllers individually with no other controllers plugged in.  I didn't have any issues after plugging everything back in. 
Hopefully your experience will be the same, but with so many devices it wouldn't surprise me if other issues cropped up.

I don't have any experience with PCSX2, but I've never heard of anyone else having to use x360ce with it.
The GT2 is a direct input device, same as Logitech wheels.

[Howard_Casto]

Yeah xinput is rumble only.  People get confused because the 360 racing wheel was released, but it does NOT use xinput as the interface, rather some custom direct-input FF driver that Microsoft has yet to publically release. 

[nugarp]

Thanks guys. I feel a lot better about not using XInput for M2, and now have FFB  . I have an official MS FFB wheel for 360 so I too thought that the ffb was more than vibration. I also figured that in X360CE, left motor and right motor meant left direction and right direction, not the physical left and right vibration motors.

I was able to configure M2 by disabling my aimtrak and vjoy controllers. I had to keep the X360 controllers on, otherwise the joystick #s changed when I re-enabled all of the devices.

I was probably distracted at work when I was writing about PCSX2..that wasn't the case at all. I came home and checked my config and it worked perfectly as-is, with FFB and vibration (tested on Sega Rally 2006). Sorry about that post.

Demul is annoying as balls since if I combine pedals, the game by default moves the car at half speed instead of stopped, but I would love to get crazy taxi working at some point. Also FFB fails as I get an error everytime I launch a game (which goes away, and then the game works, but there's no ffb). It did give me FFB once, but it vibrated the wrong controller  .

Thanks for the help! I'm really excited to have finally gotten M2 to work.

[Boomslang]

Yup ive got the wheel and yes it works fine with all games really. Remember that it has a Logitech g25 mode where it will effectively become a Logitech G25 along with the Fanatec mode. Sega Rally Revo on PC for instance doesn't give FFB while Logitech mode works perfectly

[BadMouth]

Demul is annoying as balls since if I combine pedals, the game by default moves the car at half speed instead of stopped, but I would love to get crazy taxi working at some point. Also FFB fails as I get an error everytime I launch a game (which goes away, and then the game works, but there's no ffb). It did give me FFB once, but it vibrated the wrong controller 

What version of Demul are you using?
I got that error on my old cab and used an autohotkey script to post the enter key to skip it.
I haven't tested the newest version with a wheel.

Demul requires the pedals to be marked combined.
It sounds like the pedals need calibrated in the game's service menu.



Boomslang, in g25 mode will the wheel work with Logitech profiler software?

[nugarp]

What version of Demul are you using?
I got that error on my old cab and used an autohotkey script to post the enter key to skip it.
I haven't tested the newest version with a wheel.

Demul requires the pedals to be marked combined.
It sounds like the pedals need calibrated in the game's service menu.

I'm using the latest - 0.582 WIP. The pedals I've marked as combined. I also have an AHK script I'm using to bypass the error, but FFB would be nice. I'll try an older version tonight & also try giving it a go in PS3 mode (I presume that is what "G25 mode" is). Also calibration of pedals makes sense. Don't know why it didn't occur to me earlier. I will try that too.

BadMouth, do you have FFB working in Demul?

[BadMouth]

BadMouth, do you have FFB working in Demul?

It's been so long since I had a driving cab together to play on that I don't remember. 
(I always have centering feedback enabled for emulators that don't have ffb)

I don't think so.

[Howard_Casto]

I'm not sure if it supports it. 

Like a lot of things pertaining to demul, I think it supports FF in theory.... in practice however...

[nugarp]

(I always have centering feedback enabled for emulators that don't have ffb)

Do you use a separate program for that? I would like that functionality in my front-end and in a few other things.

[BadMouth]

(I always have centering feedback enabled for emulators that don't have ffb)

Do you use a separate program for that? I would like that functionality in my front-end and in a few other things.

Logitech has it as an option in the windows controller config.

Isamu posted this solution for others: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,132498.msg1361363.html#msg1361363
Dunno if anyone has tried it with a GT2.

[nugarp]

Thanks. I'll give it a go tonight.

Everyone's responses in here have been invaluable, so thank you.

[R083RT0]

Hello nugarp,
I have a Fanatec GT2 steering wheel in my cabinet, the pedals work perfectly with Demul Crazy Taxi (Naomi version).
part my padDemul settings:
[JAMMA0_0]
PUSH1 = 16777229
PUSH2 = 16777228
PUSH3 = 0
PUSH4 = 0
PUSH5 = 0
PUSH6 = 0
PUSH7 = 33554434
PUSH8 = 33554690
SERVICE = 11
START = 16777225
COIN = 16777224
DIGITALUP = 67108864
DIGITALDOWN = 67109376
DIGITALLEFT = 67109632
DIGITALRIGHT = 67109120
ANALOGUP = 33554433
ANALOGDOWN = 33554437
ANALOGLEFT = 33554688
ANALOGRIGHT = 33554432
ANALOGUP2 = 0
ANALOGDOWN2 = 0
ANALOGLEFT2 = 0
ANALOGRIGHT2 = 0

[nugarp]

Reporting back. Isamu's post was very helpful and worked well on the GT2. I had to change the intensities and gain to get a feel that I liked but it worked great

R083RT0, those settings look very similar to mine (thanks for verifying!). I am assuming you have disabled combine pedals with those settings. Your settings don't work for me when combined pedals is on - but with combined pedals off, did you notice that your car in crazy taxi automatically is braking when you aren't accelerating? I've seen that issue too. Accelerate = all good. No acceleration = brake, unfortunately.

Edit: I finally got it. I read a post by BM somewhere else on here that indicated the key that Demul kept thinking was down was the clutch. I was able to hold it ~halfway and get the actual mappings I needed. Here's a copy of my padDemul. Probably the most interesting thing for anyone else on a GT2 wheel would be the analog up/down and s1up/down in jamma0_0 and joy0_0, respectively:

[JAMMA0_0]
PUSH1 = 16777220
PUSH2 = 16777221
PUSH3 = 16777226
PUSH4 = 0
PUSH5 = 0
PUSH6 = 0
PUSH7 = 33554434
PUSH8 = 33554690
SERVICE = 11
START = 16777225
COIN = 16777224
DIGITALUP = 67108864
DIGITALDOWN = 67109376
DIGITALLEFT = 67109632
DIGITALRIGHT = 67109120
ANALOGUP = 33554694
ANALOGDOWN = 33554438
ANALOGLEFT = 33554688
ANALOGRIGHT = 33554432
ANALOGUP2 = 0
ANALOGDOWN2 = 0
ANALOGLEFT2 = 0
ANALOGRIGHT2 = 0


[JOY0_0]
UP = 67108864
DOWN = 67109376
LEFT = 67109632
RIGHT = 67109120
A = 16777217
B = 16777218
C = 0
D = 0
X = 16777216
Y = 16777219
Z = 0
LTRIG = 16777221
RTRIG = 16777220
START = 16777225
S1UP = 33554694
S1DOWN = 33554438
S1LEFT = 33554688
S1RIGHT = 33554432
S2UP = 0
S2DOWN = 0
S2LEFT = 0
S2RIGHT = 0

Along with the centering ffb and a buttkicker, these games will still provide some feedback 

[Boomslang]

Boomslang, in g25 mode will the wheel work with Logitech profiler software?

yep works fine. It loads a completely different driver when in ps3 mode. Everything shows up as a genuine Logitech G25 as far as I can tell. It doesn't work with PS2 I noticed though but it does work perfectly with PCSX2 with full ffb

Of course g25 works perfectly with Xbox 360 and backwards compatible with Original Xbox games (No ffb but gives vibration)

[nugarp]

So I realized that my setting the registry key for combined and separate pedals only updated what the fanatec properties saw on the windows form, not what was actually being set for the wheel. I wrote an AHK script to track all the keypresses needed to swap between combined and separate pedals. It keeps track of which one you're actually setting by running a registry entry first. I'm attaching the .reg files and the .ahk files if anyone else wants them. Keep in mind, you will need to change the path to the .reg files in the .ahk scripts or else they obviously won't work.

The reg files are used to default what is checked. The ahk files trigger the change. That's why combine.ahk calls separatepedals.reg and vice versa.

Also just realized I have 3x Send {Space} in a row. You could probably just replace it with 1.

[R083RT0]

R083RT0, those settings look very similar to mine (thanks for verifying!). I am assuming you have disabled combine pedals with those settings. Your settings don't work for me when combined pedals is on - but with combined pedals off, did you notice that your car in crazy taxi automatically is braking when you aren't accelerating? I've seen that issue too. Accelerate = all good. No acceleration = brake, unfortunately.

I tested Crazy Taxi (Naomi) today with my Fanatec GT2 wheel & Clubsport Pedals; the pedals work perfect! (combined pedals are disabled)
There is no auto braking when i'm not accelerating (brake lights are off)
Only the wheel is connected to the pc with usb cable (I have the pedals connected to the wheel).

but no ffb