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| yotsuya:
--- Quote from: dkersten on August 25, 2014, 06:30:15 pm ---BTW, I have yet to figure out why there is such hatred for cupholders here.. :timebomb: --- End quote --- I know I actively hate them, but that's me. Why take a chance on some drunk fool spilling his Hamm's all over your beautiful CP? ;D Having said that, I'll have a pair up for sale very soon! Who doesn't love cupholders! Buy them now!!! :cheers: |
| yotsuya:
--- Quote from: dkersten on August 25, 2014, 06:30:15 pm ---My only negative comment about the feedback here is that there seems to be little tolerance for stuff that has been "done to death". --- End quote --- I gave this a bit of thought. It's probably not "little tolerance" so much as it is trying to get people to really think about the opportunity they have in front of you. More often than not, you have a blank canvas, if you will, a machine that YOU CAN CREATE AND HAVE IN YOUR OWN HOME. That was unheard of when we were kids. Yeah, you can take the easy way out and slap on some ready-made lightening artwork or a collage of your favorite characters with clashing art styles from games that weren't even arcade games or so on and so forth. I think it's a little kick in the butt to the person creating a cab that they should really consider all options. That, and to be honest, you seen one Marvel Vs. Capcom, you seen them all. ;D My favorite cabs are my favorites not because of the bling or the "enhanced features" but because of a well-executed theme. Echo Base. Blip!. Pinball Unleashed. Games that look like they came from the factory. I'm probably more of a traditionalist that way, but to me, those are masterpieces. If Blip! didn't have the LCD marquee, it would still be a winner in my book because of the execution of the theme. So yeah, there's nothing fundamentally wrong with a blue/black lightening cab. But there's nothing wrong with suggesting thinking about something more, either. |
| dkersten:
I more or less agree with your opinion about the blank canvas and not wanting to see them waste a great opportunity, but I suppose I also think about it this way: If I always wanted a Defender, and one day I came here and said "I have saved for years and finally have the money to build a Defender, here is my project" And someone will say "You know, if you go with a 4 way joystick, you can also play pacman." Then someone will say "Of course, if you go with an 8 way, you can play most games, and eventually you would be bored of Defender and since you can't afford a different cab, that is what I would do." Eventually I end up building a mame cab that might be just totally awesome. But I still didn't fulfill my dream of owning a Defender cab. Now I know what you are thinking: Nobody here would push someone from doing a dedicated cab to doing a mame. And you are right, so why would anyone push in the OTHER direction?? Why would anyone want to suggest to that person with the blank canvas that they use a big, bulky, outdated monitor that is going to limit the number of games they can play? Why would they suggest a joystick that can't play all the games? Why would they suggest art that is specific to one genre of game instead of something universal? Like I said, I tend to agree with you here, I see the potential and I cringe when I see them wasting it, in my eyes. But I have to stop myself and remind myself that this isn't for me, it is for them, and they might really want those lightning bolts and 7 joysticks (or an overdone star wars theme, lol). So more power to them. I might tell them that in my experience they will not like it down the road, but I sure won't call them a noob and then start showing pictures of some 5 foot x 3 foot control panel from the wall of shame... I will save that for later when they are building their second cab to replace the monstrosity they insisted on in the first place... >:D (kidding but there are a couple people here that will do that) |
| DaveMMR:
See, now I'm not going to try and join the dogpile on you Xiaou, but maybe leaving out the five or six paragraphs about martial arts when you're replying may help you get your point across better. ;) Being serious. People get a tad annoyed when they see this long wall of text for answers/opinions/etc. and most of it could have been left on the cutting room floor (or the forum-text equivalent thereof.) --- Quote from: dkersten on August 25, 2014, 06:30:15 pm ---My only negative comment about the feedback here is that there seems to be little tolerance for stuff that has been "done to death". --- End quote --- Maybe you're right on that but perhaps it has more to do with the perception of "copying mistakes" that people are taking umbrage. Angled controls, unorthodox button arrangements, admin buttons, et al. Not trying to start up debates about any of those topics (they've been "discussed to death" already) but, yeah, there's that. As for design choices, well people have opinions. If you like the stock overlay, then it doesn't matter - so long as you can play the game. It's all just decoration, and like any art some people will like it and some people will dislike it. Doesn't matter - as long as you can play it, right? (Besides, that being said, I think design should be one of the last things you worry about on a cabinet unless the actual hardware ties into the theme - e.g. you're building a replica of Paperboy or something. Nothing wrong with plain black if you can't decide.) |
| yotsuya:
--- Quote from: dkersten on August 25, 2014, 07:09:42 pm ---Now I know what you are thinking: Nobody here would push someone from doing a dedicated cab to doing a mame. And you are right, so why would anyone push in the OTHER direction?? Why would anyone want to suggest to that person with the blank canvas that they use a big, bulky, outdated monitor that is going to limit the number of games they can play? Why would they suggest a joystick that can't play all the games? Why would they suggest art that is specific to one genre of game instead of something universal? --- End quote --- Why? Because personally, I think it's better to have a machine that plays a subset of games really well, almost near perfect (i.e. all vertical, 4-way restricted) than a cab that plays everything under the sun in an OK-not very good manner (try playing a 4-way game with an IL joystick with authentic Cherry switches - great for 8-way games, maddening to the point of murder for Mr. Do!). Why do I feel that way? Experience. OK, so clarifiying a question I had last night when I first read this post, the point of this thread is to say "Be nice to newbies, because it's OK if they like their cab just the way they planned it." Got it. :cheers: |
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