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bulbousbeard:
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--- Quote from: bulbousbeard on August 20, 2014, 09:01:18 pm ---"screen tearing (caused by altering the graphics faster than the electron beam can render the picture)"
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Which is pretty much exactly what he said. You get tearing when you modify the frame buffer faster than than it is drawn out. So you end up with part of one frame and part of another displayed on screen. Simple concept, we get it.
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Actually, it's the opposite of what he said. He said that you get tearing when you're rendering slower than the monitor's refresh rate.
Snark removed by an irritated saint
bulbousbeard:
Nvidia confirmed in several interviews and in every press communication that G-Sync works with any panel technology. It's not tied to any specific panel technology. It just needs display port.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7582/nvidia-gsync-review
"Despite NVIDIA’s first choice being a TN display, G-Sync will work just fine with an IPS panel and I’m expecting to see new G-Sync displays announced in the not too distant future."
You're objectively wrong. Get on Vent or Mumble. I will educate you from the ground up.
yotsuya:
I feel like playing a game of Robotron with Xiaou2. Where you at, bro?
saint:
I appreciate people being passionate about a subject and I appreciate a good debate between parties with opposing views.
If you can't do it with the decorum I've requested in the rules (if you haven't read the rules, read the damn things - http://arcadecontrols.com/arcade_message_rules.html), you need to take a step back. I don't care whose dick is bigger. If you're here to pick fights, get the frack off my forum.
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/wheatons-law
Make your points without belittling the other party. If you can't do that, the problem lies with the person you see in the mirror.
I know the above was unnecessary because everyone here can have civilized discourse. Never mind me - thanks everyone!
--- saint
dkersten:
I didn't catch what other insults you hurled at me, but thank you Saint for cleaning it up. :)
Theoretically you could do G-sync with IPS, but everyone who knows anything about the panels knows that IPS panels are way too slow, and while you could do G-sync with them, you could never even get close to sub-5ms latencies with them, at least not with any EXISTING technology, which is why there is no such thing as an IPS G-sync monitor. It is a unicorn as of right now, and while that will likely change at some point in the future, that future is at LEAST 2 years away. Saying that you can do G-sync on an IPS panel is like saying you can have an all electric car that can go for 400 miles between charges and get charged in a matter of a few minutes. Sure, in CONCEPT, you can, but the technology is just not possible right now. Period plain and simple. What point is there to have G-sync on an ips panel when you can't reliably clock it over 60hz or get better than 15-30ms latency? NONE WHATSOEVER. Which is why nobody is manufacturing one.
And if you know anything about v-sync, you would know that if your monitor is at 60hz, your vid card will throttle your framerate to 60 fps. Show me a screenshot of ANY game running at 61 or more frames per second with v-sync on. You can't because like an IPS panel with sub 5ms latency, it might as well be Santa Clause.. Doesn't exist. Screen tearing will happen any time the monitor refresh is out of sync with the frames being rendered, but with v-sync anything above 60 fps (on a 60hz display) is throttled and frames will either be dropped or just not rendered at all, so it will NEVER HAPPEN with v-sync on.
I see you "called me out" last night in a PM, sorry, I was busy with my life and didn't catch it. I was busy playing League of Legends on my 10 year old LCD, of which the gameplay was perfect, there was zero screen tearing, my FPS did occasionally go from 60 to 59.9 in a flicker, and I successfully played 8 games (of which I won 6) at 1200 lines of resolution, above and beyond the "modern" resolution of 1080. This, in my book, is enough to disprove every single thing you have vomited on this forum. Completely playable, no tearing, and never once went above the screen refresh rate despite the computer being able to render 3x that frame rate. Funny how reality can trump the interweb sometimes..