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Old LCD Monitors vs. New LCD Monitors
shponglefan:
--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on July 23, 2014, 12:35:47 pm --- This depends on what you consider "Older". If two years is ancient to you... then sure.
But many LCDs are in fact poor for fast moving games... most especially LCDs made maybe between 3 to 6 yrs ago.. also dependent on the brand / components. Many of them also have poor contrast and poor color representation. And due to the age... the Backlight is probably getting near the end of its lifespan... so it will be darker than you would like, and the light could cut out at any time.
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Dunno what to tell you, but my experience disagrees with your post. I've tested my LCDs and they are more than adequate for gaming. And yes, I'm talking about monitors older than 2 years. ::)
shponglefan:
--- Quote from: yotsuya on July 23, 2014, 01:27:54 pm ---
--- Quote from: bulbousbeard on July 22, 2014, 11:39:45 pm ---Good monitors are anything but free. There's a reason people are throwing away trashy old 4:3 LCDs. They have a ton of input lag, are too low res for HLSL, and have really bad response times.
Games are basically unplayable on them if you care about quality even a little.
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I tend to see that they're throwing them away because they see a 20" 16:9 as an upgrade to a 19" 4:3. It's wider, so it must be better is their train of thought.
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Yep, I snagged old 4:3 monitors from my old work when they replaced 'em with bigger widescreens.
Xiaou2:
--- Quote ---Dunno what to tell you, but my experience disagrees with your post. I've tested my LCDs and they are more than adequate for gaming. And yes, I'm talking about monitors older than 2 years. ::)
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You can Roll your blind Eyes at me all you want. Facts are Facts. Just because your brain and or eyes are problematic, does not change the reality of LCD tech specs.
Many of the hardcore games refuse to play on any monitor that does not have under a 1ms response.. and some of the latest developments are things like: Lightboost, GSync, and now ULMB.
See: http://www.blurbusters.com/
Consumer priced LCDs, have a ton of disadvantages to even a Decent CRT.
Biggest one being Non Native Resolution Distortion. Then Longevity... and the list goes on and on... especially the further you go back in years.
shponglefan:
--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on July 23, 2014, 11:34:18 pm ---
--- Quote ---Dunno what to tell you, but my experience disagrees with your post. I've tested my LCDs and they are more than adequate for gaming. And yes, I'm talking about monitors older than 2 years. ::)
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You can Roll your blind Eyes at me all you want. Facts are Facts.
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Again, my experience disagrees with your experience. And given my experience is factual, there is literally nothing you can say to possibly change things.
We'll just have to agree to disagree.
(It also is worth noting that plenty of other people have examples of cabs built with 4:3 LCDs. So clearly I'm not alone in this either.)
--- Quote --- Consumer priced LCDs, have a ton of disadvantages to even a Decent CRT.
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Like anything, there are trade offs. LCDs have certain advantages over CRTs as well. There is no perfect "one-sized fits all" solution.
Xiaou2:
--- Quote ---Again, my experience disagrees with your experience. And given my experience is factual, there is literally nothing you can say to possibly change things.
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Experience doesnt make truth.
For example, if I say I didnt hear the distortion in the CD I just bought... or I didnt taste the spice note in the meal just served to me.. or I didnt see 3d effect in the Imax3d movie...
Does not make these experiences factual. Sure, its a fact I tried them.. and documented my experiences... but its based on my personal physical qualities, such as hearing, sight (eye spacing, visual acuity.. ), taste receptors (food), and even sensory to brain translation issues. As well as personal opinions.
But Actual factual data is different. For example, just because you dont hear half of the expanded output range in a high-end audiophile speaker, does not mean that it does not exist. In fact, it can be, and is proven to exist, as these things can be measured. They are measured from the get-go, and these specs are almost always listed and available. If not available (and or just to confirm) many whom are capable and have the devices to measure them, will in fact measure and report these things.
This is why I gave you a link to Blurbusters. Its a known issue with LCD display technology. One of many many flaws.
One thing about this hobby, is that most of us are playing older games, with limited color depth.. so we dont care much if the display is missing a color range, or its not completely accurate. What does matter much more.. are things like motion blur, visual to controller delays, visual distortions, and lasting lifespan (who wants to rip apart their cabinet - and rebuild a new mount for a different LCD? ) As well as the actual look being completely different altogether, than a real arcade monitor.
--- Quote ---(It also is worth noting that plenty of other people have examples of cabs built with 4:3 LCDs. So clearly I'm not alone in this either.)
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Saying that a lot of Lemmings watched a Movie, does not mean that movie was actually good and worth watching.
A lot of people put Asbestos in their houses.. and that wasnt good either.
A lot of people eat at Taco Bell.. Does that make it the best place to eat?! Certainly not good for you.. and I cant even imagine anyone with the lack of tastebuds who would claim such a thing.
Yes, a lot of people use LCD. In fact, if making a compact and light cab and or bartop is desired, its a good option. But it really boils down to personal opinion, and what you are willing to compromise.
--- Quote ---We'll just have to agree to disagree.
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In the case of an Opinion, thats fine and good. But in the case of proven data... then Ill just state those facts, which really, speak for themselves. Again, its up to the user in the end. And if the user is incapable of noticing the lag and or distortions.. then maybe hes ok with following your opinion.
In this case, hes building for cheap / free.. and giving to whats probably a non-technical family. Durability and last-ability, IMO, are high priorities.. unless he wishes to be a life-long fix-it man for them...