Main > Main Forum

Old LCD Monitors vs. New LCD Monitors

Pages: << < (8/8)

Xiaou2:


--- Quote from: Typefighter01 on July 26, 2014, 10:54:17 pm ---
--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on July 26, 2014, 10:10:39 pm ---Have fun memorizing useless data that will soon be outdated.

--- End quote ---

--- End quote ---

 Sorry, but knowing how things operate, such as mechanics (gears, pullys, springs.. ), and Physics of things (Leverage, Mass, Impacts..  )  as well as Material Qualities..  all are timeless things.

 What it means, is that Memorization of something only goes so far.   But knowing the principles of something, will enable you to pretty much figure out anything.   

 A simple example of this, might be how one could memorize how to open up a certain model laptop.   If the MFG makes any changes.. that knowledge will not help you... especially if you have no access to acquire the new knowledge required.  However, one who is good with mechanical abilities, can often figure out how things are held together, opened up, all without damaging the assemblies.    Ive met a few memorizers in such fields.. and Ive witnessed them break things repeatedly, even when they knew the memorized process.  Ive also seen them miss key reasons why certain things failed.. due to their incorrect assumptions of knowledge base information... rather than actual physical diagnosis, tests..etc.  One guy thought a laptops hinges were bad because the lid was loose.  Sometimes that was true.  However, in this case.. all that was needed was to tighten the hinge screws.

 Its very much the same in Martial Arts.

 If you learn the principles of how the stuff works.. you can adapt to different kinds of attacks and interactions that you had never been trained against.   But if you only memorized techniques... you would be far more apt to fail when something happened that was outside of the scope of the training.



GeoMan:

I am still using a ViewSonic 19" PF790 CRT for games and especially emulators /MAME. Although i bought it back in 2000 it is still in perfect shape with vibrant colors and not a sign of image distortion.

I wouldn't change it for any LCD right now (of course i'll be forced to do so when one day it dies, but for now it is perfectly fine!)





dkersten:


--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on July 26, 2014, 10:10:39 pm --- Most modern games are child level easy.  As most are FPS games, in which there are a lot of waiting / hiding, walking, moments..  and even when your in action.. its very limited in its intensity and need of Constant precise reactions.   
 
 Robotron however, drops you in the middle of like 100 baddies.. some merely a few pixels away... and says "GO".   Between the robots and the 50mph projectiles... you are constantly dodging, shooting..   and often are one to three pixels away from death,  at least 5 times a level.   Most beginners have never been up to stage 10.. and cant get there repeatedly.  Ive been up to stage 30 on a real machine, although, I think it was set to 5 lives at that time.  Even that, took many hours of play, before it became a regularly attainable feat.
--- End quote ---
So games like Call of Duty played competitively for years are child level easy with no real motion issues or input lag, but robotron... watch out, your LCD simply can't handle the load...  Funny because the very sites you read all your LCD information on are specifically geared toward modern first person shooters where a couple milliseconds can be the difference between being competitive and being a smear on the side of a building.

Seriously, I get what you are saying, and in THEORY it is not wrong, but as a competitive PC gamer for two decades who has worked with computer monitors since the Vic20 came out, I can say that in practice, you give me ANY LCD monitor and I can PLAY a game with it just fine.  Are some better than others?  YES.  Are some FAR better than others?  YES.  But the scale is still going from "playable up to a semi-competitive level" to "playable AT a competitive level", it doesn't start at "unplayable". 

Look, for YOU, an older LCD might just not work for your tastes.  Nothing wrong with that AT ALL.  You can apply that to ANY enthusiast hobby.  But what one person might brush off as unusable might be the next person's treasure.  When you expend a ton of effort trying to convince other people that the equipment they have been using for years is unusable for a game, you not only tend to ruffle some feathers, but you also tend to come across as someone who needs an excuse for why you aren't very good at those games.  Your arguments have only convinced me that if you were playing robotron on my cab and didn't do as good as me, you would blame the monitor.  Or the joystick.  Or the height of the control panel.  Or the ambient light in the room throwing you off.  Or the temperature in the room.  Or the time of day.  Or the phase of the moon.  Never just having a bad game or a lack of skill. 

BTW, In January I was looking to replace my 9 year old Dell 24" LCD and I started reading up on g-sync, which of course led me to reading about other interesting facets of "gaming LCD's".  Up until I started dumping money into this hobby, I had planned to replace my aging LCD with the Asus ROG 27" w/G-Sync when it came out.  Last I had checked it was due out in July.  Frankly, now I will probably never bother unless my old Dell goes out, and even then I will end up spending only a couple hundred and just go bigger because when it comes down to it, the performance of the screen never really mattered that much to me in PC gaming.  If I ever decide to play another FPS, I will do so to have fun, and the screen will not matter.  If someone is good enough that their monitor actually gives them an edge, then they are already better than me so it wouldn't matter anyway.  My days of playing on any kind of competitive level are over, and I am OK with not being the best and having the edge over others at my skill level.  The same goes for having a cutting edge car stereo system, home theater, or car.  I have been there, done that, and it just doesn't matter much to me any more.  Funny thing, when you step down from the cutting edge you realize that the extra couple percent you gained by spending 3 times more money was really a waste. 

Pages: << < (8/8)

Go to full version