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| kiwasabi:
Yeah the potentiometers on Pong wore out really quick. I read that it was estimated the number of cycles they were rated for would be exceeded within one week of being on location. What you want is an encoder wheel if you're to make something yourself. They sell them at places like Sparkfun or you can hack an old mouse (I believe you need an old ball mouse rather than a laser mouse). And to whoever was asking about playing spinner games with a trackball... they really don't have the right feel at all in my experience. I would recommend getting both.Tempest with a trackball is arcade blasphemy. |
| DaveMMR:
--- Quote from: paigeoliver on July 15, 2014, 07:19:29 pm ---If you can only have one then you want the trackball. --- End quote --- A TB is definitely more versatile and the better option for those who want to cover as many games as possible. Although there's a little gray area in there - if you're a fan of a dozen spinner games and maybe one or two trackball games, maybe a spinner may be the better option. Also, not taken into consideration is that a spinner (at least nowadays) takes up a heck of a lot less space than a trackball. You could almost throw a TT2 spinner in as an afterthought, not so much with a trackball. If you have to make omissions on your panel, make that "must-play" list first before planning out the panel. |
| kiwasabi:
--- Quote from: DaveMMR on July 17, 2014, 09:40:58 am ---Although there's a little gray area in there - if you're a fan of a dozen spinner games and maybe one or two trackball games, maybe a spinner may be the better option. --- End quote --- The trackball games I always go back to are Cabal, Sylvalion (Japan only release where you play as a dragon and can spin around and stuff), Marble Madness, Centipede/Millipede, and Missile Command. I really wish the SegaSonic game would control better because obviously a lot of love went into making that game by Sega. Spinner games may be less numerous... Tempest and Arkanoid really. The spinner was underutilized I think. Oh yeah and Blasteroids. |
| Xiaou2:
--- Quote from: kiwasabi on July 17, 2014, 05:31:12 pm --- --- Quote from: DaveMMR on July 17, 2014, 09:40:58 am ---Although there's a little gray area in there - if you're a fan of a dozen spinner games and maybe one or two trackball games, maybe a spinner may be the better option. --- End quote --- The trackball games I always go back to are Cabal, Sylvalion (Japan only release where you play as a dragon and can spin around and stuff), Marble Madness, Centipede/Millipede, and Missile Command. I really wish the SegaSonic game would control better because obviously a lot of love went into making that game by Sega. Spinner games may be less numerous... Tempest and Arkanoid really. The spinner was underutilized I think. Oh yeah and Blasteroids. --- End quote --- Lot more spinner games than that. I like trackball games, but if I had to choose one, it would be a spinner. While you can control spinner games with a trackball.. it never plays well enough to enjoy... due to losses of accuracy when you have some vertical vectors in your movements. From the Wiki: Conventional spinner games Arkanoid arkanoid Arkanoid - Revenge of Doh arknoid2 Blasteroids (version 4) blstroid Wolf Pack (prototype) wolfpack Tempest (rev 3) tempest Tron (set 1) tron Mad Planets mplanets 720 Degrees (set 1) 720 Aztarac aztarac Forgotten Worlds (US) forgottn Kozmik Kroozr kroozr Crater Raider crater Wheel Of Fortune wfortune Victory victory Omega Race omegrace Cameltry (US) cameltry Cosmic Chasm (set 1) cchasm Dark Planet darkplnt Vs. Hot Smash hotsmash Boxing Bugs boxingb Star Trek startrek Push/pull spinner games Discs of Tron (Upright) dotron Zwackery zwackery Forgotten Worlds forgottn *(only push) Horizontal roller Major Havoc (rev 3) mhavoc Moonwar moonwar Kick (upright) kick Vertical roller Drag Race dragrace 360° Steering Wheel Super Sprint ssprint APB - All Points Bulletin (set 1) apb Pole Position polepos Pole Position II polepos2 Road Blasters (set 1) roadblst American Speedway (set 1) amspdwy Bad Lands badlands Demolition Derby demoderb Danny Sullivan's Indy Heat indyheat Speed Freak speedfrk Ironman Stewart's Super Off-Road offroad Ironman Stewart's Super Off-Road Track Pack offroadt Turbo turbo Konami GT konamigt Buggy Challenge buggychl Championship Sprint csprint Fire Truck firetrk Fire Truck firetrk Grand Champion grchamp Hot Rod (turbo 3 player) hotrod Monte Carlo montecar Stocker stocker Super Speed Race sspeedr Final Lap 2 finalap2 Subs subs Mille Miglia 2: Great 1000 Miles Rally (95/05/24) gtmr2 Over Drive overdriv Redline Racer (2 players) redlin2p Sprint 1 sprint1 Horizontal paddle games Boot Hill boothill Clowns (rev. 2) clowns Super Breakout sbrkout Avalanche avalnche Beam Invader beaminv Gee Bee geebee Warlords warlords Field Goal fgoal Blue Shark blueshrk Circus circus Sea Wolf seawolf Sea Wolf II seawolf2 Vertical paddle games Destroyer destroyr Lunar Lander (rev 2) llander Dual Spinner Games Paddle Games Arkanoid Returns Off the Wall (Atari) Off the Wall (Bally Sente) Warlords (uses 4!) Pop'n Bounce Plump Pop VS Blok Breaker Flying Blasteroids Two Tigers Driving Super Off Road Super Sprint (uses 3!) Championship Super Sprint Bad Lands Ironman Ivan Stewart's Super Off-Road (uses 3!) Ironman Stewart's Super Off-Road Track Pack (uses 3!) Danny Sullivan's Indy Heat Other Atari 2 player games Puzzloop / Puzzloop 2 Puzzle Bobble 2/3/4 (a.k.a. Bust a move) Forgotten Worlds * Additionally, you can use a spinner to play pot based racing games like Outrun. Some do not like the lack of centering spring... but its still able to be used well and with good accuracy regardless. (and if one really wanted, they could make a spring solution that can attack and detach as needed) ** I believe the above list is also missing games... due to the POOR level of picture documentation of the Rear side of the control panels. TX-1 for example, also uses a 360 degree optical wheel.. as well as two optical pedals. *** Ill also add, that the lack of controller assembly pictures (for use in front-ends as well), is also a real shame. Many do not know what the controllers look like, and or even what they are. For example, Segas Turbo uses an optical pedal that has dual optos and a sliding tab... very similar to how the 49 way joysticks work. TX-1 has a dual pedal assembly, in which both pedal units use large diameter optical encoder wheels - the kind they used on Tron spinners... |
| PL1:
--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on July 19, 2014, 03:49:50 pm ---** I believe the above list is also missing games. --- End quote --- That page certainly does need some updates -- "the TurboTwist 2 is relatively new to the spinner scene. " :dizzy: :lol LMK if you want a wiki login or have specific corrections and/or games to add to the list. :cheers: Scott EDIT: Made a few changes to the wiki -- mostly alphabetizing the games within each category, correcting a few errors, and adding several more games. Found six _long_ lists of spinner/dial games, including several of yours, Steve. :) I'll try to sort through them later. |
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