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leapinlew:

--- Quote from: Slippyblade on July 31, 2014, 08:08:13 pm ---
--- Quote ---This assumes you know the proper way to use an old school leaf:
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This statement is why I just tend to scroll past X2 posts.  His way is the "One true way" and no other way has any merit, regardless of reality.

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At this point, I'm not sure what he's even arguing about. He self admittedly says he hasn't given the GGG button a fair chance but then he's ranting about leafs to me and I already know all about them. Is he arguing that the replacement leafs will never be as good or is he saying they'll never be the same? Either way he's wrong and it's mostly because he didn't even try the button other than put it in a control panel, press it a few times and decide it wasn't good enough.
Xiaou2:

 De-Programmer  /On
 WakeUp Mode    /On


--- Quote from: dkersten on July 30, 2014, 05:11:36 pm ---
--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on July 30, 2014, 04:00:57 pm --- You missed the Boat.

 Doesnt matter if you adjust it.  The travel can Never be the same as a real Leafswitch assembly.   It will bottom out, despite your best efforts to keep it from happening.

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Wait, you claim that you use a light touch where you hover over the switch and barely press it, so why would it matter to you if it bottomed out?

Sounds like you are just looking for a reason to be able to say something is inferior.  Also seems to be a common thread with you. 

I have a bit of advice for you:  Learn how to compromise and be able to choose the best option when there isn't a perfect option, because in life there is almost never something "perfect" for you.  Everything in life is about compromise, and the person who spends their entire life waiting for everything to be exactly what they want is going to die unhappy and unsatisfied.

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 That is Not what I said.   The reply should clear it up, if you take the time and effort to understand it.

 I typically do not complain about things I like...  nor do I always Gush over stuff either... as why bother?   
 I know what I like.   Your bound to dislike things that I like.  It means very little.  Its shallow, to judge a person
by such things.

   It doesnt mean Im a complete bitter sour puss.  Thats just what you read into it from your lack of knowledge of 'me'.

 There are good reasons for what I protest.  For one, its to make people aware, and for them to demand better.

 Some people are brought up with low quality experiences ... such as an extreme example..  of never have ate a Steak.   Only a Hamburger at best..  and those Hamburgers, were not ever seasoned well.
They simply do not know what they are missing...  and ... and they will even take offense to someone who calls it out as it is...  because to them... its the best Hamburg they have ever Ate... and hey,  EVERYONE THEY KNOW LOVES THEM!   And if it was SOOOO BAD...   Why do SOOOO many people eat them?  And WHY would it matter if you had it in steak format or ground up?  ...when they are the same ingredient...  right?    Well, obviously, anyone who has had the pleasure and experience of eating both... would laugh at that logic...  but to them,  you are just being too critical and are a complete snob, troll, and negative Nancy.

 Im sorry if its offensive to you... and hard to accept that the things you may like & love .. are not as Glorious as once thought.   That you were submarined by the powers that run the world,  into being born to live in a generation where a good deal of things made,  are in fact made with cheaper materials, shoddy craftsmanship, planned to fail parts, toxic chemicals / injected foods, some of the most audacious levels of worldwide corruptions ever so blatantly flaunted, with freedoms that are being dangerously whittled away each day...     

 But again...  you will probably take this as an attack on your pride and ego that you have invested in so heavily.    Not realizing..   that one day soon, you will probably be saying the same exact words, shaking your head in disappointment and disgust...  as things sink even Lower than what you consider good / acceptable.   Much like going from a spacious house.. to a rent-a-coffin.   Or a wonderful healthy dinner... to a vile of liquid sludge that tastes like the smell of dirty stinky wet shoes.    Yup, its probably headed that way..  In fact, they have even started propaganda on some of this stuff - to prepare you subconsciously - so that its less of a shock when it hits - and thats all there is on the menu anymore.   That way, your less likely to start a riot.  You will be docile.. and all of those new-gen kids will be like all angry, arrogant, ignorant, zombie-programmed, egotistical,  and self righteous...  and will say  "What are you talking bout Pops?  This Sludge is Awesome!  You just have a negative attitude, and will never be happy...  " 



 There certainly are a lot of cool things from each and ever era...  and I enjoy ALL of the good stuff.   Im passionate.. and make it a point to seek out the best things in life to experience. (that I can afford).   Do I NEED to see a Stereoscopic Imax 3d movie?   Nope.     But hey..   some of them are flippin awesome.   Do I need to buy headphones that allow me to hear about 10x better sound accuracy than the Beats or Bose,  can be worn a whole day without any discomfort, last +13 more years of service (and climbing) - even with daily use + heavy abuse ... and still cost LESS than those Mass Advertised Overpriced Zombie Turds?   Do I need to need to buy used, power hungry, vintage speakers... restore them.. and jam out to sound clarity, 3d depth, and raw power...  that you cant even buy new for +$3000 today? (for like under 200$ fully restored)

 I dont need to have the latest and greatest.. or even the anything near the 'best'.   Couldnt afford it anyways.   But I, like anyone else... has the right to complain about things that are unacceptable, in poor taste,
lacking in features, output, detail, quality, durability...etc.

 
 Whats most disturbing, are people like you..  whom do not even have a Clue about the vastness of the differences...  and are throwing rocks around at people whom Do have a clue.  People whom do have experience with all aspects, have both actual parts! , and knowledge depth, that you lack.   Why?   Popular Opinion?   Defending the Generation?  Defending the Opinions and Egos of the "Clan" of similar posters..  ?


 Geez,  you would Think people would be Thanking me...  for sparing them their wasted cash on Junk...  for a future day to actually acquire something worth their hard earned... and rapidly declining value... Cash.

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 Thank you for your patience...
 Now,  ...Back to your regularly Scheduled Psychological-Programming Attacks...

Xiaou2:

--- Quote from: leapinlew on July 31, 2014, 08:35:13 pm ---
--- Quote from: Slippyblade on July 31, 2014, 08:08:13 pm ---
--- Quote ---This assumes you know the proper way to use an old school leaf:
--- End quote ---

This statement is why I just tend to scroll past X2 posts.  His way is the "One true way" and no other way has any merit, regardless of reality.

--- End quote ---

At this point, I'm not sure what he's even arguing about. He self admittedly says he hasn't given the GGG button a fair chance but then he's ranting about leafs to me and I already know all about them. Is he arguing that the replacement leafs will never be as good or is he saying they'll never be the same? Either way he's wrong and it's mostly because he didn't even try the button other than put it in a control panel, press it a few times and decide it wasn't good enough.

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 Obviously you Dont know everything about them.

 Maybe you would be better off educating yourself on knowledge that you lack, than trying to feed your Ego.

 I have faith that your intelligent enough to be capable...   
 But I have doubts your Ego could take the hit for being wrong... so its better you do not think any more on the subject.

 Enjoy your overpriced plastic piece of garbage,  that performs worse than a product 20yrs its elder.
  :cheers:

leapinlew:
Thanks. Will do.  ;D
RandyT:

Perhaps the most humorous part of all of this is that X2 thinks he possesses some divinely inspired arcade knowledge, which only he is capable of fully grasping.  When I designed the CLASSX button, I drew from experience gained through arcade gaming since before there were color arcade games, and also using the originals in my own home-built control panels in the early eighties.  After collecting multiple authentic panels and actual machines from the early days of arcade gaming, noting the inconsistent (and sometimes incorrect) installations on those panels and taking note of the complaints, regarding adjustment and contact wear, often repeated by operators and enthusiasts, I set out to revive leaf switch buttons by addressing those concerns.  Based on the very positive feedback I have received from actual users, I believe I have succeeded to a more than substantial degree.

Had I wished to merely duplicate a 30 year old design, with all of it's flaws, it would have been much, much simpler....and far less costly, as the molds for these already exist.  But then, none of the shortcomings would be corrected, so there would be no value in doing so.

X2's opinions are as valid as opinions can be.  He has no special knowledge not possessed by many others here, and whether that knowledge and/or capability rises to that of others is another topic for opinionated discussion.

I'm sure he'll have plenty to say about the next thing coming down the pike from GGG, but that won't affect my decisions in the slightest.  It will never be good enough for Steve, but I think the rest of you kind folks will really like it, and that's why we keep putting our butts on the line. ;)
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