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New Product: SWYM: Star Wars Yoke Mount
PL1:
--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on April 19, 2014, 12:42:38 pm ---FYI - Molex connectors are not really meant to be plugged in and out frequently. They are difficult to do so.. and they are not durable... often having pins bend, and or soldier joints crack, or the wires fall out (when not soldiered into the pins).
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Didn't recommend it for frequent plugging and un-plugging -- just reminded people to avoid needlessly hacking the harness when the connector and pins are available for <$2.30 + shipping.
--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on April 19, 2014, 12:42:38 pm --- So IMO, hack away. In fact, you may even want to rewire the entire yoke... due to possible wire sheath cracking, and possible internal wire breakage.
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WRONG!!!! :banghead:
Atari used special wire with a higher strand count (more flexible) than commonly-available wire.
If it ain't verifiably broke, don't "fix" it for the same reason that you shouldn't throw away a good CRT to "upgrade" a cab to an LCD/LED monitor.
If Atari was still making the harnesses, I would agree with your "hack away" sentiment, but there aren't many NOS harnesses still floating around. (5 or 6 on KLOV in the last few years IIRC)
Unhacked harnesses are very desirable to collectors trying to restore/repair an original SW yoke.
Needlessly hacking the harness removes value and options if/when someone decides to sell their yoke or use it on a dedicated SW/ESB/Jedi machine while they rebuild that machine's yoke.
Scott
jasonbar:
Good points all around, guys. I made this for myself, to my specs, for my needs, & if there are any like-minded folks in the same tiny boat as I, then let me know. I have realistically low expectations for sales on this! :]
Not intended for arcade use. Just for respectful mature adult use, clamped on to any desk/table/CP (you can use the 12" bar clamp version & clamp to pretty much anything that has a bottom face) only when used, not left on, without needing to modify your CP/table at all. Just pretend it's a clamp-on PC steering wheel--same deal.
Thanks,
-Jason
Generic Eric:
I think the visible sides are waiting for some of this treatment.
Malenko:
its a niche product in a nicher market. Id advocate the same premise for mounting Logitech G27s and the like. If you use the idea, no compensation required :)
Xiaou2:
--- Quote ---WRONG!!!! :banghead:
Atari used special wire with a higher strand count (more flexible) than commonly-available wire.
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Are you saying its impossible that the special wire - which is not really as special as you think.. is never capable of breakage after 20+ years?
Lets just say this... I used to Manage an Arcade. One of the games I repaired frequently, was a Road Riot 4wd.
Its some what similar to the Yoke design. Its wires were original. They were thin, and broke every other week.
I finally got tired of re-repairing them.. and decided to use thicker gauge speaker wire. I tore out the old wire, and re-wired the entire thing. Worked like a charm.. and no wires had broke, in the remaining 2yrs I was at that location.
The wheels spring system was a mess however, and there was constant maintenance on the spring holder clips, from metal grinding wear. It quickly became my least favorite game, due to the poor mechanical design. Atari was usually very good about making durable controls.. but this wasnt one of those times.
--- Quote ---If it ain't verifiably broke, don't "fix" it for the same reason that you shouldn't throw away a good CRT to "upgrade" a cab to an LCD/LED monitor.
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Um.. Where did I say anything about tearing out a CRT / VECTOR ? I cant stand LCDs for arcade displays of classics.
This is a wiring harness. Its nothing special. And unlike some crazy pinball harness, or unique game harness that would be very difficult to rewire & figure out... this is none of that. Its basic switches and pots.. with plenty of manuals and diagrams to easily figure out the wire order - should you somehow get a fresh supply of Vector monitors... and other related parts.
--- Quote ---If Atari was still making the harnesses, I would agree with your "hack away" sentiment, but there aren't many NOS harnesses still floating around. (5 or 6 on KLOV in the last few years IIRC)
Unhacked harnesses are very desirable to collectors trying to restore/repair an original SW yoke.
Needlessly hacking the harness removes value and options if/when someone decides to sell their yoke or use it on a dedicated SW/ESB/Jedi machine while they rebuild that machine's yoke.
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Ok, so I could have said.. Re-wire and sell that harness. Maybe get 2$ off of ebay for it, after 3 yrs of re-posting.
But I understand your point. Im a collector Btw. IMO, there are things that are worth saving.. and maintain and command high dollar value... and then there are things which have no real value to most non-OCD people...
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