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ark_ader:


--- Quote from: nimda79 on January 30, 2014, 12:22:29 am ---
--- Quote from: stripe4 on January 29, 2014, 04:12:22 am ---I'm curious about the MAME version you used to benchmark G3220. Was it also 0.141? I ask you this because performance regressions (and their subsequent fixes) are nothing out of the ordinary in MAME, here's an example:
http://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=309357&page=16&view=expanded&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1

The huge difference in scud and starsldr results was the one that made me suspicious. If MAME versions really do not match, can you please rerun the tests using 0.141?

--- End quote ---

Well just as I feared...my .149 rom set is too much different, so .141 won't run. I guess I'll have to install a second drive in my e8400 box and install Windows 7 x64 to give the full comparison. Bonus is that it will be stock clock speeds so it will be a true 1:1 comparison vs the benchmarks I linked to that have an OC'ed e8400.

Ark_Ader, would you like a blood sample or something? Holy crap dude. I proved it runs the games that drown most systems and you still have a hard on for flaming. I'm starting to doubt you are 45 as your profile states, due to the immaturity of your comments. As I see it you have 3 options: (1) Act your age (2) admit defeat (3) stop posting flame-bait comments

By the above comments, I see I am not the only one annoyed by this behavior. I really hope a mod sees this crap and puts you and your attitude where it belongs, post-hell and perma-ban. Add value or GTFO.

--- End quote ---

Sounds like someone doesn't like criticism.   ::)

I don't think those results are accurate, as I have said before the processor is crap.  Post something from a legitimate (and accurate) source.  But like I said before: If you want to use this crap processor in your build then please do so, but please do not advertise that this chip is beneficial as it is clearly not.  Name calling or ultimatums do not work on me.  Only the truth does.  ;)

nimda79:


--- Quote from: ark_ader on January 30, 2014, 01:45:33 am ---
--- Quote from: nimda79 on January 30, 2014, 12:22:29 am ---
--- Quote from: stripe4 on January 29, 2014, 04:12:22 am ---I'm curious about the MAME version you used to benchmark G3220. Was it also 0.141? I ask you this because performance regressions (and their subsequent fixes) are nothing out of the ordinary in MAME, here's an example:
http://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=309357&page=16&view=expanded&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1

The huge difference in scud and starsldr results was the one that made me suspicious. If MAME versions really do not match, can you please rerun the tests using 0.141?

--- End quote ---

Well just as I feared...my .149 rom set is too much different, so .141 won't run. I guess I'll have to install a second drive in my e8400 box and install Windows 7 x64 to give the full comparison. Bonus is that it will be stock clock speeds so it will be a true 1:1 comparison vs the benchmarks I linked to that have an OC'ed e8400.

Ark_Ader, would you like a blood sample or something? Holy crap dude. I proved it runs the games that drown most systems and you still have a hard on for flaming. I'm starting to doubt you are 45 as your profile states, due to the immaturity of your comments. As I see it you have 3 options: (1) Act your age (2) admit defeat (3) stop posting flame-bait comments

By the above comments, I see I am not the only one annoyed by this behavior. I really hope a mod sees this crap and puts you and your attitude where it belongs, post-hell and perma-ban. Add value or GTFO.

--- End quote ---

Sounds like someone doesn't like criticism.   ::)

I don't think those results are accurate, as I have said before the processor is crap.  Post something from a legitimate (and accurate) source.  But like I said before: If you want to use this crap processor in your build then please do so, but please do not advertise that this chip is beneficial as it is clearly not.  Name calling or ultimatums do not work on me.  Only the truth does.  ;)

--- End quote ---

It is the truth. I posted a freaking screenshot, posted a standard benchmark from a site, and someone else posted another comparing it to an e8400 as well, yet you still drink from the fountain of ignorance.
How about you do this...tell me the "legit sources" that you speak of, since apparently the 2 shown thus far have not met your "standards"

ark_ader:


--- Quote from: nimda79 on January 30, 2014, 01:49:57 am ---
--- Quote from: ark_ader on January 30, 2014, 01:45:33 am ---
--- Quote from: nimda79 on January 30, 2014, 12:22:29 am ---
--- Quote from: stripe4 on January 29, 2014, 04:12:22 am ---I'm curious about the MAME version you used to benchmark G3220. Was it also 0.141? I ask you this because performance regressions (and their subsequent fixes) are nothing out of the ordinary in MAME, here's an example:
http://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=309357&page=16&view=expanded&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1

The huge difference in scud and starsldr results was the one that made me suspicious. If MAME versions really do not match, can you please rerun the tests using 0.141?

--- End quote ---

Well just as I feared...my .149 rom set is too much different, so .141 won't run. I guess I'll have to install a second drive in my e8400 box and install Windows 7 x64 to give the full comparison. Bonus is that it will be stock clock speeds so it will be a true 1:1 comparison vs the benchmarks I linked to that have an OC'ed e8400.

Ark_Ader, would you like a blood sample or something? Holy crap dude. I proved it runs the games that drown most systems and you still have a hard on for flaming. I'm starting to doubt you are 45 as your profile states, due to the immaturity of your comments. As I see it you have 3 options: (1) Act your age (2) admit defeat (3) stop posting flame-bait comments

By the above comments, I see I am not the only one annoyed by this behavior. I really hope a mod sees this crap and puts you and your attitude where it belongs, post-hell and perma-ban. Add value or GTFO.

--- End quote ---

Sounds like someone doesn't like criticism.   ::)

I don't think those results are accurate, as I have said before the processor is crap.  Post something from a legitimate (and accurate) source.  But like I said before: If you want to use this crap processor in your build then please do so, but please do not advertise that this chip is beneficial as it is clearly not.  Name calling or ultimatums do not work on me.  Only the truth does.  ;)

--- End quote ---

It is the truth. I posted a freaking screenshot, posted a standard benchmark from a site, and someone else posted another comparing it to an e8400 as well, yet you still drink from the fountain of ignorance.
How about you do this...tell me the "legit sources" that you speak of, since apparently the 2 shown thus far have not met your "standards"

--- End quote ---

At least let's agree to disagree.   :cheers:

nimda79:


--- Quote from: ark_ader on January 30, 2014, 01:57:53 am ---
--- Quote from: nimda79 on January 30, 2014, 01:49:57 am ---
--- Quote from: ark_ader on January 30, 2014, 01:45:33 am ---
--- Quote from: nimda79 on January 30, 2014, 12:22:29 am ---
--- Quote from: stripe4 on January 29, 2014, 04:12:22 am ---I'm curious about the MAME version you used to benchmark G3220. Was it also 0.141? I ask you this because performance regressions (and their subsequent fixes) are nothing out of the ordinary in MAME, here's an example:
http://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=309357&page=16&view=expanded&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1

The huge difference in scud and starsldr results was the one that made me suspicious. If MAME versions really do not match, can you please rerun the tests using 0.141?

--- End quote ---

Well just as I feared...my .149 rom set is too much different, so .141 won't run. I guess I'll have to install a second drive in my e8400 box and install Windows 7 x64 to give the full comparison. Bonus is that it will be stock clock speeds so it will be a true 1:1 comparison vs the benchmarks I linked to that have an OC'ed e8400.

Ark_Ader, would you like a blood sample or something? Holy crap dude. I proved it runs the games that drown most systems and you still have a hard on for flaming. I'm starting to doubt you are 45 as your profile states, due to the immaturity of your comments. As I see it you have 3 options: (1) Act your age (2) admit defeat (3) stop posting flame-bait comments

By the above comments, I see I am not the only one annoyed by this behavior. I really hope a mod sees this crap and puts you and your attitude where it belongs, post-hell and perma-ban. Add value or GTFO.

--- End quote ---

Sounds like someone doesn't like criticism.   ::)

I don't think those results are accurate, as I have said before the processor is crap.  Post something from a legitimate (and accurate) source.  But like I said before: If you want to use this crap processor in your build then please do so, but please do not advertise that this chip is beneficial as it is clearly not.  Name calling or ultimatums do not work on me.  Only the truth does.  ;)

--- End quote ---

It is the truth. I posted a freaking screenshot, posted a standard benchmark from a site, and someone else posted another comparing it to an e8400 as well, yet you still drink from the fountain of ignorance.
How about you do this...tell me the "legit sources" that you speak of, since apparently the 2 shown thus far have not met your "standards"

--- End quote ---

At least let's agree to disagree.   :cheers:

--- End quote ---

Is this your way of saying, there isn't any sites that meet your standards? I really want you to drink the koolaid  >:D PCMark from FutureMark.com? (http://www.3dmark.com/compare/pcm8wrk/24997/pcm8wrk/8618) There's got to be some synthetic benchmark that you'll trust.
I have both processors e8400 and G3220. I'll run whatever, there's no shame in being wrong. Even I said I would "eat crow" if it came out that way. Hell I'll post a video if it makes you feel better. :P



ark_ader:


--- Quote from: nimda79 on January 30, 2014, 02:31:41 am ---
--- Quote from: ark_ader on January 30, 2014, 01:57:53 am ---
--- Quote from: nimda79 on January 30, 2014, 01:49:57 am ---
--- Quote from: ark_ader on January 30, 2014, 01:45:33 am ---
--- Quote from: nimda79 on January 30, 2014, 12:22:29 am ---
--- Quote from: stripe4 on January 29, 2014, 04:12:22 am ---I'm curious about the MAME version you used to benchmark G3220. Was it also 0.141? I ask you this because performance regressions (and their subsequent fixes) are nothing out of the ordinary in MAME, here's an example:
http://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=309357&page=16&view=expanded&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1

The huge difference in scud and starsldr results was the one that made me suspicious. If MAME versions really do not match, can you please rerun the tests using 0.141?

--- End quote ---

Well just as I feared...my .149 rom set is too much different, so .141 won't run. I guess I'll have to install a second drive in my e8400 box and install Windows 7 x64 to give the full comparison. Bonus is that it will be stock clock speeds so it will be a true 1:1 comparison vs the benchmarks I linked to that have an OC'ed e8400.

Ark_Ader, would you like a blood sample or something? Holy crap dude. I proved it runs the games that drown most systems and you still have a hard on for flaming. I'm starting to doubt you are 45 as your profile states, due to the immaturity of your comments. As I see it you have 3 options: (1) Act your age (2) admit defeat (3) stop posting flame-bait comments

By the above comments, I see I am not the only one annoyed by this behavior. I really hope a mod sees this crap and puts you and your attitude where it belongs, post-hell and perma-ban. Add value or GTFO.

--- End quote ---

Sounds like someone doesn't like criticism.   ::)

I don't think those results are accurate, as I have said before the processor is crap.  Post something from a legitimate (and accurate) source.  But like I said before: If you want to use this crap processor in your build then please do so, but please do not advertise that this chip is beneficial as it is clearly not.  Name calling or ultimatums do not work on me.  Only the truth does.  ;)

--- End quote ---

It is the truth. I posted a freaking screenshot, posted a standard benchmark from a site, and someone else posted another comparing it to an e8400 as well, yet you still drink from the fountain of ignorance.
How about you do this...tell me the "legit sources" that you speak of, since apparently the 2 shown thus far have not met your "standards"

--- End quote ---

At least let's agree to disagree.   :cheers:

--- End quote ---

Is this your way of saying, there isn't any sites that meet your standards? I really want you to drink the koolaid  >:D PCMark from FutureMark.com? (http://www.3dmark.com/compare/pcm8wrk/24997/pcm8wrk/8618) There's got to be some synthetic benchmark that you'll trust.
I have both processors e8400 and G3220. I'll run whatever, there's no shame in being wrong. Even I said I would "eat crow" if it came out that way. Hell I'll post a video if it makes you feel better. :P

--- End quote ---

No, when I am wrong I freely admit it, and have done so on this board several times.  I am currently not in the position to perform any tests, but I do not mind revisiting this at a later date, and post scores of the A8 as requested.  I have made my position clear, on both a professional standpoint and personal as indicated.  It is not about blame or credibility.  The processor is crap.  Buy the next series up and you will see a huge performance increase.

I think you are taking my stance as personal slight. That is your problem.  :lol   

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