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| Generic Eric:
Are you sure this isn't some sort of placebo effect? Is it the feeling/sound of the click? Or do they have a faster response time? |
| yotsuya:
--- Quote from: Generic Eric on January 06, 2014, 12:58:40 pm ---Are you sure this isn't some sort of placebo effect? Is it the feeling/sound of the click? Or do they have a faster response time? --- End quote --- *** Cue Xioux (and the Banshees)2 chiming in on button fatigue*** There is a noticeable difference, mainly because you don't have to wait for a "reset" of the button to activate it again. |
| Generic Eric:
:lol --- Quote from: yotsuya on January 06, 2014, 01:04:03 pm --- --- Quote from: Generic Eric on January 06, 2014, 12:58:40 pm ---Are you sure this isn't some sort of placebo effect? Is it the feeling/sound of the click? Or do they have a faster response time? --- End quote --- *** Cue Xioux (and the Banshees)2 chiming in on button fatigue*** There is a noticeable difference, mainly because you don't have to wait for a "reset" of the button to activate it again. --- End quote --- :lol I just want to know more. Especially if I have to go questing for the switchs like I did for the Star Wars Yoke. |
| RandyT:
--- Quote from: Generic Eric on January 06, 2014, 12:58:40 pm ---Are you sure this isn't some sort of placebo effect? Is it the feeling/sound of the click? Or do they have a faster response time? --- End quote --- No, it's not a placebo effect. There are very real, physical differences in the way the two types of switches function. Microswitches have a "bump" in the travel of the switch, due to the way they are designed. Resistance increases as the "bump" is approached, at which time the internal arm slams the contacts together under spring tension. When this happens, the resistance disappears instantly. Then, when you wish to activate the microswitch again, it must be allowed to return to the "pre-bump" section of the travel, thereby resetting this mechanism. This is usually referred to as the "reset distance". While these effects are not serious with a very low-actuation force microswitch, like the ones we offer as standard with our buttons, they are quite noticeable on higher force microswitches. Leaf switches have neither the bump, nor the reset distance requirement, and the resistance is much more uniform throughout the travel of the button plunger. The reduction in noise is primarily a side benefit. |
| chopperthedog:
--- Quote from: 404 on January 06, 2014, 12:33:33 pm ---solid deal on the buttons bundle too. --- End quote --- I troll the buy/sell forum on klov via tapatalk almost every half hour daily. I even scored this populated defender panel for 45 bucks shipped 5min after it was posted. Did it all from the phone and had him paid in 2 minutes while at a gig waiting for the opener to finish. But being able to analyze the panel is what got me interested in seeing what the old buttons are all about. Obviously the panel above has not been harmed and remains intact. The me of 6 years ago would have thought these buttons need to go and also sawed the edges off.... >:D --- Quote from: Generic Eric on January 06, 2014, 12:58:40 pm ---Are you sure this isn't some sort of placebo effect? --- End quote --- Absolutely not, Randy nailed it above. Yes there are options to add a leaf switch to a happ style button, but the higher plunger profile on the old buttons also adds to the experience. I've learned that if you're bottoming out an old leaf button, you're doing it wrong and wasting energy. And yotsuya nailed it with the word "twitch". You kinda rest your finger on the button and find that sweet spot with little twitches. I feel like I'm getting 4 shots off now in the time I would have only fired off 2 having to bottom out the button and reacting to the reset length. good day. |
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