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paigeoliver:

--- Quote from: Darkjudge1 on January 01, 2014, 07:34:55 pm ---paigeoliver: Short version is... the cocktail is my personal preference. Yes, it'd be nice to have an upright, but the cocktail to me is a bit more practical. Though I'm curious, what would you see as the drawback to a 19 in widescreen LCD, or am I correct in thinking that part of the image will be cut off/viewing angle will be an issue?

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I have owned several hundred games, cocktail are the most practical machines to store, otherwise not so much. But I certainly understand wanting one. I have owned quite a few.

Several issues, the first is aspect ratio, either the game doesn't use the whole monitor or it is stretched out. Viewing angle can be an issue. Older games generally don't look good on LCD monitors because they are far too crisp, although some of the mame options can hide that. The last one is a pretty big one, display/input lag. Emulation has a native display/input lag of 1 frame per second. A crt has effectively no input lag at all. However an LCD will have an input lag of as much as 3 frames per second. Additionally it isn't all that uncommon to have to turn on triple buffering or other special video options in mame to combat image tearing on the LCD, which injects even more display lag.
mgb:
Again,
Paigeoliver's advice is sound, practical and true
mgb:

--- Quote from: EMDB on January 01, 2014, 03:41:19 pm ---
--- Quote from: Darkjudge1 on January 01, 2014, 03:07:29 pm ---Scott: Thanks for the link. I had come to similar conclusions. I'm tempted just to leave it with the joysticks.

Speaking of, anyone here use the Magstick plus? Any thoughts on that versus a traditional 4/8 way restrictor?

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If you want to play 4 and 8 way games together it's undoable to quickly switch the restrictor plate from the inside of a control panel. Switching the magstick plus from the top is very easy. You must like the non-micro switch stick though. I do. But after playing a while I got annoyed determining which setting to select for every individual game. Especially when having guests over. So I switched to the (also micro switch-less) U360 which is switched automatically from software depending on the selected game...

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Not sure if I missed something here but the mag stick plus does use a conventional restricter. It's just that it uses a square restrictor that can be turned for blocking diagonals.
It is not a micro switch less stick though. The magnet part is only for centering rather than using a spring
Unstupid:

--- Quote from: paigeoliver on January 01, 2014, 07:44:51 pm ---
--- Quote from: Darkjudge1 on January 01, 2014, 07:34:55 pm ---paigeoliver: Short version is... the cocktail is my personal preference. Yes, it'd be nice to have an upright, but the cocktail to me is a bit more practical. Though I'm curious, what would you see as the drawback to a 19 in widescreen LCD, or am I correct in thinking that part of the image will be cut off/viewing angle will be an issue?

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I have owned several hundred games, cocktail are the most practical machines to store, otherwise not so much. But I certainly understand wanting one. I have owned quite a few.

Several issues, the first is aspect ratio, either the game doesn't use the whole monitor or it is stretched out. Viewing angle can be an issue. Older games generally don't look good on LCD monitors because they are far too crisp, although some of the mame options can hide that. The last one is a pretty big one, display/input lag. Emulation has a native display/input lag of 1 frame per second. A crt has effectively no input lag at all. However an LCD will have an input lag of as much as 3 frames per second. Additionally it isn't all that uncommon to have to turn on triple buffering or other special video options in mame to combat image tearing on the LCD, which injects even more display lag.

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Not to mention, a 19" widescreen is physically smaller vertically than a 19" 4x3 screen.  If you want to fill the hole you'd have to go with a 23" or 24" widescreen which would roughly have the same vertical height as a 19" 4x3 screen
ark_ader:

--- Quote from: Darkjudge1 on December 31, 2013, 11:29:30 pm ---So, because I don't have any woodworking tools beyond a screwdriver, hammer and a power drill I've elected to go with this cabinet:

http://www.mameroom.com/Products_Cocktail3_Kit.asp

Part of the reason for this is because of the horizontal set of controls in addition to the traditional cocktail controls. However, I'm curious... has anyone been able to modify any of the pre-drilled holes for a trackball? Would that be necessary to add a spinner?

EDIT: Curious, did anyone try mounting a 19 in LCD widescreen in one of these? I'm trying to decide between that a 17 in CRT that I have.

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Excellent choice!  :applaud:  I'd love to have a cocktail build some day.  Haruman makes some impressive cocktail cabinets at a really good price.  How about mounting your track ball to the side of the CP and a spinner on the other?  17" seems large enough for a screen.
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