Arcade Collecting > Pinball
Visual Pinball.....whoa.
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--- Quote --- Its not to say I do not enjoy being able to experience virtual pinball tables. Because I can and have had fun using them on my pc, on a CRT. But to spend several Thousands for cabinets that are not offering much over even that experience... seems completely ridiculous to me.
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Last week I even played several tables on my pc, put down my 30" monitor and an old 21" as a backbox and played future pinball. And yes it can be fun. Also nice to play some games i never played before. But for a complete cab, which has some real action with shockers etc you would pay at least 2500,- and that is a lot of money.
Just like making a mame cab for 2500 and only play 2 or 3 games. While you could have the real deal for much less. Owning a cab is not only playing the game, but also maintaining it. Clean it, once in a while new lights etc etc. That little magic is never possible with a vp.
nickbuol:
I've gotten into this argument before too about real pinball machines vs. simulations. My only experience with a "virtual" machine sucked (I've posted about it here a while back). The execution of the build and crappy tables, poor graphics, no force feedback at all, etc just made it lame.
I still want to experience a "full on" virtual cabinet like some of these guys are building:
http://www.vpforums.org/index.php?showforum=29
However, I only have room for 1 pinball machine right now, and it is a "real" machine (Theatre of Magic). Someday I would like to build a virtual machine, but not because I think that it will be the same experience or as good as a real physical ball, flippers, and ramps, but because 1) I will only have room for 1 more machine... maybe (my wife says otherwise though), 2) I will never get a chance to play anything but the same old crap machines that I (rarely) ever see anywhere that are in the crap-list of Stern games (not saying all their games are crap, but they have a good number that they spent more money on licensing some characters or theme than on the gameplay itself it seems).
I travel a good amount for work and even using online sources to find some pinball machines and where to play them, the ones that I have always wanted to play are never in circulation, or are still way too far away to be able to make the drive with the time contraints of my travels. I think that the place that I visit the most often with a number of pinball machines in the Minneapolis airport. Problem is that they many times have duplicates of the same machines, or more critically, my layover there is just too short to play anything (or I am on the wrong end of the airport).
So I think that while nothing will fully replace the silver ball, virtual machines gives a lot of people an opportunity to at least see the games and try them out to some degree when they can't ever get to.
Some games that I've always wanted to play, but have never and probably will never get to play are:
Medieval Madness
Monster Bash
Tales of the Arabian Nights
Cirquis Voltaire
Those are the ones that come to mind right away. Last fall I drove a couple of hours out of my way on a business trip, stayed an extra night, and spend half a day at a pinball expo (White Rose Gameroom Show), and I played a LOT of pinball and knocked a number of machines off of my "wish list" to play, but I could only play them one time and that was it.
So for me, I am still willing to give a virtual experience a shot at some point in the future, but still have 100% respect for the real deal. People bickering over one or the other to the edge of insult need to make their point and move on.
Alright, I guess I need to move on too since I just had sort of a rant too.
Time to get off my :soapbox:
pbj:
Posts like yours are why I encourage people to buy the first one they see if they're interested in a particular title.
The trade volume has dropped off a cliff and you're very likely to NEVER see one again. It wasn't like that 15 years ago, but it is now. :P
Luckydogg_420@hotmail.com:
--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on January 07, 2014, 02:23:27 pm --- The argument isnt about comparing completely different experiences. Its about representing the experience of the original games.
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1) what are your thoughts about Gran Toursmo the driving simulator, with a real car on a real track? Is your enjoyment level limited to 1/10 because your not experiencing the real thing.
2) why not avoid "worrying about representing the experience of the original game" and only play tables that are entirly fictional? Like fx2; their games have never existed in the physical world, the "original game" is a video game.
smartbomb2084:
--- Quote from: nickbuol on January 14, 2014, 09:11:42 am ---
People bickering over one or the other to the edge of insult need to make their point and move on.
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This is the best qoute I ever read on this forum...too much my opinion vs. yours arguments all the time serving no purpose.
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