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| PL1:
My post was not intended as an attack on anyone. Thank you for providing the other side of the story, Defender. For the record here, I have no dog in this fight, am not familiar with the history, and was merely reporting claims made in the linked KLOV thread. I should have presented the information in the other thread as allegations instead of repeating it as though it was factual. :embarassed: (Updated my earlier post to warn new readers accordingly.) The KLOV forums appear to be down at this time or I would attribute the specific claims to the individuals that made them. Dantebean in reply 19 and LyonsArcade in reply 11 of the KLOV thread were the specific sources that made the claims that I referenced. Shortly after my last post, I went back to the KLOV thread and noticed that it was getting so bad that Tombo (one of the mods) was threatening to shut the thread down. :o The nature and tone of those pile-on posts make me even more skeptical of the claims in that thread. --- Quote from: PL1 on October 16, 2013, 10:48:44 am ---The guy ignored lots of apparently good advice and got banned after he freaked out on some KLOV trolls. --- End quote --- --- Quote from: Defender on October 16, 2013, 10:37:58 pm ---** You forget to mention the YEAR PLUS trolling/bullying that went on before he finally snapped. Having FB pages hacked and personal family photos used as tools for mockery. Calling his wife fat and making jokes about appearance. 30 pages of hate, layered on hate. "Advice" that was fiscally impossible to implement under the current circumstances. And the advice that WAS used led to the name calling of copy cat and thief --- End quote --- Any kind of bullying like that is absolutely unacceptable! Source of the allegation: Dantebean, reply #19 of KLOV thread --- Quote from: PL1 on October 16, 2013, 10:48:44 am ---He did fund-raisers to buy cabs (capital investment) for the business. --- End quote --- --- Quote from: Defender on October 16, 2013, 10:37:58 pm ---*** COMPLETE UNTRUTH!!!! Fundraisers were for just what they said they were for. Pay back rent during turbulent times --- End quote --- That was a claim made in the other thread -- if the claim is false, it is false. Sources of the allegation: LyonsArcade, reply #11 Dantebean, reply #19 --- Quote from: PL1 on October 16, 2013, 10:48:44 am ---Would you think your mechanic had a viable business if he held a number of fundraisers and asked you to donate so he could buy tools (capital investment) while still charging you the standard prices to do repairs and oil changes? --- End quote --- --- Quote from: Defender on October 16, 2013, 10:37:58 pm ---** You are repeating yourself here. Again, fundraising was encouraged by the community AND did not go to the purchase of new cabs. --- End quote --- I only included this example because it removes the arcade aspect and puts it in business terms. --- Quote from: PL1 on October 16, 2013, 10:48:44 am ---He also did fund-raisers to cover the rent, while he continued to buy more games. (Can't cover the rent, but still investing in more cabs?) --- End quote --- --- Quote from: Defender on October 16, 2013, 10:37:58 pm ---** Repeating that cabinets were purchased with the funds of the fund drive will still not make it true. No new cabinets were purchased from the funds raised during the Indiegogo campaign. --- End quote --- Once again that was a claim made in the other thread -- if it is false, it is false. Source of the allegation: Dantebean, reply #19 --- Quote from: PL1 on October 16, 2013, 10:48:44 am ---Sounds like the business plan is more money-pit than money-maker. :dunno --- End quote --- --- Quote from: Defender on October 16, 2013, 10:37:58 pm ---** In it's current location, it IS a money pit. The rent is too high for a viable arcade. This location was not originally meant to be an arcade. However the owners are locked in an unbreakable 5 year lease and are trying their best to sustain until the lease is up. --- End quote --- Sorry to hear that. I hope they manage to keep things running untiil they can find a better location. :cheers: --- Quote from: PL1 on October 16, 2013, 10:48:44 am ---Personally, I wouldn't donate to keep them in business, but if you like their selection of games, by all means enjoy doing business with them while the doors are open -- and keep an eye out for the auction if/when they finally go under. --- End quote --- --- Quote from: Defender on October 16, 2013, 10:37:58 pm ---** NICE. You sound like 95% of the KLOV members who have a) never set foot in Rusty Quarters b) formed a lynch mob because originally they dared to try an open an arcade as a side project with several other friends. And when said friends didn't have the time to work in said project the owners liquidated their previous business to open Rusty Quarters. Poison the well all you'd like. The truth of the matter is the owners of Rusty Quarters work 60+ hours 6 days a week and have sacrificed almost every personal possession to keep their community arcade open. And yes, when they were in danger of losing it all they reached out to their community AT THE URGING of the community that loves visiting and playing some nostalgia. Pride goeth before a fall. Sometimes you need to ask for help. Should they be punished for asking for help in a time of great need? If anyone cares to hear the TRUE and REAL story behind Rusty Quarters Arcade, feel free to contact them directly. --- End quote --- I'm NOT hoping for RQ to fail, but not all businesses survive. :dunno Pretty sure that if it comes down to that, we'd all prefer that people other than the haters at KLOV would be at the liquidation auction. My posts are not intended to "poison the well" and I actually did (and do) encourage people to enjoy doing business with Rusty Quarter. Best of luck. :cheers: Scott |
| wp34:
I'm sorry to see the KLOV drama spill over here. Thanks for posting pics DK. Looks like the pins that were there when we went are gone. The games on the left-hand side look the same. Seeing that Q*Bert makes me want to go back again. It is a great place to take the kids. It is well lit and you can see the entire room. |
| Vigo:
Well, maybe I'll have to check it out over the next week or so. See how it is first hand. I have brought up rusty quarters to about 4-5 friends who nearby (one lives on the same street), and they were completely unaware of its existence. |
| smalltownguy:
I sold them their Ms Pac. It's a nice little arcade, but a very tough business model to keep floating when you can't cook food, don't have bathrooms, and pay literally THOUSANDS in rent. Sage and Annie locked themselves into a multi-year lease (like more than 4 years, I believe) and tried two businesses in that space before opening RQ. Sage did himself no favors by ignoring wise advice from folks on the KLOV forums. I'm not going to defend anything that goes on over at the KLOV forums, but I CAN tell you that the mods there wouldn't allow a lynching like he got unless it was warranted. He dug his own grave. As I understand it, they have fallen behind again in rent, and have recently switched to a wristband program offering free play. Good business idea, poor execution IMHO. |
| Vigo:
Not trying to be callous, but WTF were they thinking signing a 4 year deal in a dumphole like that? I was thinking beforehand that they were being screwed by a landlord jacking up their rent, but if they went in there knowing what rent was, then they were destined to fail from day one. I hope they can get out of it and find a nice wide open space in an older suburb. I read about their woes with the place not being ventilated enough to even be open in the summer. Those are usually circumstances you can get out of a contract over. I wonder if they have pushed on their landlords over that? |
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