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rCadeGaming:

--- Quote from: Malenko on October 09, 2013, 11:51:32 am ---
--- Quote from: rCadeGaming on October 09, 2013, 11:06:00 am ---No.  The component outputs on video cards generally do the same thing as s-video and composite "TV-out."  They all scale everything to 480i, destroying native resolutions.

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Well, thats not always the case. Ive output HD resolutions from component out on video cards, and the TV he specified says it runs 1080i
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I was assuming we were talking about MAME here.  I don't doubt those cards can output resolutions above 480i, and that's all well and good for other applications, but not for MAME.  90% of games in MAME run around 240p.  What I meant was it will take any kind of low-res progressive, meaning pretty much anything from MAME, and upscale it. 

There has been plenty of talk in the monitor and GroovyMAME sections about finding a component out card that could output native MAME resolutions, as this would eliminate the need for a transcoder, but no one has been able to confirm the existence of such a card as of yet.  If you think you've got one, please share the info.

Also, if the also the TV can display 1080i it's not suitable for MAME either.  CRT TV's that can display 480p or more generally upscale lower resolutions to a minimum of 480p.  It is theoretically possible that a TV could be built to do both 240p/480i and 480p/1080i, but no one has been able to confirm the existence of that either, and it doesn't make sense why any manufacturer would make one.  It is cheaper to build a set that's 15kHz-only or 31kHz-only (480p and 1080i are both 31kHz), and sub-480-line sources were considered outdated by the time 31kHz TV's entered the market.

MAME on a CRT that doesn't allow the native resolutions isn't much better than using a LCD.  It's not worth trying to compromise by using MAME on an unsuitable CRT TV, when a suitable one can find be found on Craigslist for next to nothing.

That TV could be great for newer 480p content though, like Dreamcast, PS2, Gamecube, etc.


--- Quote from: Malenko on October 09, 2013, 11:51:32 am ---rCade prefer to spend the cash to get the picture "perfect"
I prefer to save the money unless the picture is terrible.
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You're making it sound like I'm arguing for the most expensive option, which is not the case.  I recommended a transcoder instead of a conversion chassis, and a CRT_Emudriver-compatible card instead of an ArcadeVGA.  In both case I recommended the cheaper option.  With a little modding, you can use a CVS-287 as your transcoder for about $50, and a ATI HD4350 can be found on eBay for $20.

EDIT:  I typed that before seeing your most recent post.  No offense taken then.  Just want to leave that there to show I'm not talking about a huge expense.
Malenko:

--- Quote from: rCadeGaming on October 09, 2013, 02:36:10 pm ---EDIT:  I typed that before seeing your most recent post.  No offense taken then.  Just want to leave that there to show I'm not talking about a huge expense.

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Im saying I'd rather spend ZERO :) I cant justify $70 for a better picture if what I have is good enough, thats all.  :cheers:
rCadeGaming:
Lol.  Well, it was good enough for me too until I saw the alternative.
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