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Rotating control panels in the CNC age... why so rare still?
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SavannahLion:

--- Quote from: ark_ader on September 21, 2013, 05:46:53 am ---Lack of technical skill and originality.

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Then there's tainted meth.

Personally I think there's a very fine you're describing there. Someone without the technical know how won't attempt something like that and someone who does have the know how isn't going to want to make something that looks like ass.

It's that point in between when the person doesn't know any better. Of course, that statement isn't strictly limited to just rotary cabs.
Xiaou2:

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 Simply false.

 Everyone has their own ideas, feelings, and reasons to make whatever they make.

 Are you saying that Jeri Ellsworth's C64 bass guitar is fablously beautiful?

 Its retro cool, and technically interesting ... but its no work of art that people would sell their souls to get hold of.

 The only consideration, may be people whom have technical ability and the tools to pull it off... may also have the
money and space available for multiple machines.  Hence, no reason to build such a design.

 Quite simply, a rotating control panel is built for space & cost savings... while allowing the user many more options for arcade perfect control options, with the least amount of playability compromises.

 I had many people email me about my prototype when I released the pics... inspired and asking questions, as well as giving me props and praise.  A few asked why I wasnt patenting it and trying to sell it... which was admittedly way over the top, and highly unrealistic.. heh.

 Again, its not for everyone.. but, I can tell you that a LOT more people care about game playability, over mere looks.
Even if thats Your opinion.   In fact, most true arcade machines are gaudy and ugly.  But that was never an issue to the players.


 As for your Meth goatting, you very well know that nobody on Meth is going to be building much of anything, let alone a rotating control panel.  Please, leave the button pushing to Cheffo.  Hes much better at it.


 What genuinely shocking.. is that the person behind publicly attacking so many creatively inspired peoples works... isnt someone in poverty and struggle.  This man has a basement of pinball machines, and is technically skilled.   

 Its one thing for jealously and unenlightened low class level behavior to come from a person of a rough background..   but from someone like this?  Its embarrassingly shameful.   Really flushes the faith in humanity right down the drain.
michelevit:
CNC tooling was never the limiting factor in the scarceness of rotating or modular control panels.
Multipurpose machines never seem to work like they as well as intended.
 
Some good examples include the Shopsmith line of work shop tools.
It’s a tablesaw, lathe, drill press, sanding disk and more.

But... the added complexity and time to reconfigure the device negates any suggested cost and space savings.

I just came across a print ad in yesterday’s Sunday paper for a new Craftsmen hand held cordless tool.
It looks like a cordless drill but can also be a sawzall, flashlight and rotary cutter.
Makes for a great late night commercial.

Same reason as the car/boat combo which always seems to reemerge every generation.

Barring the Swiss army knife, I don’t know of many ‘all in one device’ that work well as marketed.
 
   
AGarv:

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--- Quote from: AGarv on September 20, 2013, 04:57:07 pm ---Other than the need for precision, is there some huge drawback to them that I don't know about?

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It is too difficult to make them not look like ass!  ;)

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Yup, what he said. Even the best ones (1Up's PacMamea) have an odd look about them. At best, and with the aforementioned example, there's too much "empty, wasted space" between the controls and the monitor which is required for rotating clearance.

And what Savannah said as well. It's almost easier and, possibly cheaper, to just build a second cabinet now that room isn't so much an issue.

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Hrm, yeah I have to agree that with the 1UP/Frosty design the monitor sits unnaturally high compared to traditional cabs:



1UP's Pacmamea and Frostillicus' machine are old-school CRT cabs.  The coin door had to pull forward to allow for rotation, and the heavy CRT monitor had to stay locked into place.  In the era of affordable 27"+ LCDs, the monitor itself could be designed to swing up during rotation, then drop back into place after rotation, with no need for the "dead space" (it would be behind the monitor).

Are there any 3D models floating around that have 1Up's rotation mechanism that I could drop into sketchup?
DaveMMR:

--- Quote from: AGarv on September 23, 2013, 05:07:34 pm ---1UP's Pacmamea and Frostillicus' machine are old-school CRT cabs.  The coin door had to pull forward to allow for rotation, and the heavy CRT monitor had to stay locked into place.  In the era of affordable 27"+ LCDs, the monitor itself could be designed to swing up during rotation, then drop back into place after rotation, with no need for the "dead space" (it would be behind the monitor).

Are there any 3D models floating around that have 1Up's rotation mechanism that I could drop into sketchup?

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I was actually thinking about that same idea at one point and then I just kind of came up with something while I was killing time at work here. Don't know how doable this is as this is in no way "to scale" or anything but I was thinking about a four-sided rotating panel with an overhang on each one to flush with coin door front panel and extra space towards the back for the monitor panel to rest on.

Again, not tested or measured or anything - but if it looks useful to your project, feel free to take it and run with it.

(EDIT: You could probably move that monitor back some and would probably need to make the overhangs longer for the sticks (or whatever) to clear the front. Again, quick sketch - literally 30 seconds including the scan.)

(EDIT 2: Wonder how you'd get the monitor to lift up easily without adding ugly handles... See therein lies the issue with the rotating panels, so many challenges to overcome....)

(EDIT 3: Figured out the answer to my own question: Open front, push down, let the panel gently push forward the monitor and lift the rest of the way. But make sure you connect everything with one of those 'spinning connectors' - like they have for phone cords. And ratchet the rotation so it only turns forward.... Ugh, AGarv - turn my brain off!!!  ;) )
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