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I found this site today....   http://www.steering-wheel-support.com/

For anyone thinking about using a PS3 with a driving cabinet (I myself have been considering this for awhile) - this might help. 


EDIT BY BADMOUTH: I changed the thread title to reflect the direction the thread has gone.
Putting link to spreadsheet here for easier reference:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aq37CSO6oe1fdGNQUGN5UU1QeTl0ZFQ3WkFKYTR1aWc#gid=5

This is an early work in process.  Not ready for people to start randomly interjecting info yet unless you personally have a pile of games installed and want to contribute.  Trying to stick with first-hand experience for the PC games, not info found online.
« Last Edit: September 17, 2013, 10:47:56 am by BadMouth »

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Re: Playstation 3 (PS3) Steering Wheel Support Games
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2013, 03:28:43 pm »
Copying this here for future reference.

PlayStation®2 Driving Game Compatible with the 900-Degree Steering of the Logitech Driving Force Pro

 * Evolution GT™ by Lago Srl.
 * Flatout™ by Empire Interactive
 * Gran Turismo™ 4 by Sony Computer Entertainment Inc.
 * Midnight Club™ 3: DUB Edition by Rockstar Games
 * Need for Speed Underground® 2 by Electronic Arts
 * Need for Speed Most Wanted® by Electronic Arts
 * Richard Burns Rally™ by SCi Games
 * Street Racing Syndicate™ by Empire Interactive
 * Test Drive® Eve of Destruction by Atari
 * TOCA Race Driver™ 2 by Codemasters

 PlayStation®2 Driving Games Compatible with Logitech's Driving Force and Driving Force Pro steering wheels

 * 18 Wheeler: American Pro Trucker ™ by Acclaim
 * Auto Modellista by Capcom Entertainment
 * Burnout™ by Acclaim
 * Burnout 2: Point of Impact™ by Acclaim
 * Burnout 3 Takedown™ by Electronic Arts
 * Burnout™ Revenge by Electronic Arts
 * Colin McRae™ 3 by CodeMasters Software
 * Colin McRae™ Rally 4 by Codemasters
 * Colin McRae™ 2005 by Codemasters
 * Corvette® by Global Star Software
 * Driven by Bam Entertainment
 * Enthusia Professional Racing by Konami
 * F1™ 2001 by Electronic Arts
 * F1™ 2002 by Electronic Arts
 * F1™ Career Challenge by Electronic Arts
 * Ferrari® F355 Challenge™ by Sega
 * Flatout™ by Empire Interactive
 * Ford Mustang: The Legend Lives by 2KGames
 * Formula One 2001™ by Sony Computer Entertainment Europe
 * Formula One 2002™ by Sony Computer Entertainment Europe
 * Formula One 2003™ by Sony Computer Entertainment Europe
 * Formula One 2004™ by Sony Computer Entertainment Europe
 * Gran Turismo™ Concept: 2001 Tokyo by Sony Computer Entertainment Inc.
 * Gran Turismo™ Concept: 2002 Tokyo-Geneva by Sony Computer Entertainment Inc.
 * Gran Turismo™ 3 A-spec by Sony Computer Entertainment Inc.
 * Gran Turismo™ 4 by Sony Computer Entertainment Inc.
 * Grand Prix Challenge by Atari
 * Hot Wheels ™ Velocity X by THQ
 * Initial D: Special Stage by Sega
 * Juiced™ by THQ
 * Knight Rider™ by Universal Interactive
 * Lotus Challenge™ by Virgin Interactive Entertainment
 * Midnight Club™ II By Rockstar Games
 * Midnight Club™ 3: DUB Edition by Rockstar Games
 * Motor Mayhem ™ by Atari
 * NASCAR 06 Total Team Control™ by Electronic Arts
 * NASCAR® Heat™ 2002 by Atari
 * NASCAR® Heat™ 2: Road To The Championship
 * NASCAR® Thunder™ 2002 by Electronic Arts
 * NASCAR® Thunder™ 2003 by Electronic Arts
 * NASCAR® Thunder™ 2004 by Electronic Arts
 * NASCAR® 2005: Chase for the Cup™ by Electronic Arts
 * NASCAR 06 Total Team Control™ by Electronic Arts
 * Need For Speed™: Hot Pursuit 2 by Electronic Arts
 * Need For Speed™ Underground by Electronic Arts
 * Need for Speed Underground® 2 by Electronic Arts
 * Need for Speed Most Wanted® by Electronic Arts
 * NHRA™ Championship Drag Racing™ by VSE Games
 * Pro Race Driver by CodeMasters
 * R: Racing Evolution by Namco
 * Rally Championship by CodeMasters
 * Rally Fusion: Race of Champions by Activision
 * Richard Burns Rally™ by SCi Games
 * RoadKill by Midway
 * Shox™ Electronic Arts
 * Smuggler´s Run 2: Hostile Territory by Rockstar Games
 * Starsky & Hutch™ by Gotham Games
 * Street Racing Syndicate by Namco
 * The Simpsons™ Hit & Run by Vivendi Universal
 * The Simpsons™ Road Rage by Electronic Arts
 * Total Immersion Racing™ by Empire Interactive
 * Test Drive® by Atari
 * Test Drive® Off-Road: Wide Open™ by Atari
 * Test Drive® Eve of Destruction by Atari
 * TOCA Race Driver™ 2 by Codemasters
 * Twisted Metal Black Online by Sony Computer Entertainment Inc.
 * World of Outlaws: Sprint Cars 2002 by Atari
 * World Rally Championship™ by Sony Computer Entertainment Europe
 * World Rally Championship™ II Extreme by Sony Computer Entertainment Europe
 * World Rally Championship™ IV by Sony Computer Entertainment Europe
 * V-Rally™ 3 by Atari



When I copy and paste the chart from the PS3 site, the strikethroughs don't come through, making it inaccurate.

I have dozens of PC games that I can start making a spreadsheet of as I set them up on the new cabs.
It's just deciding what all information to include.

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Re: Playstation 3 (PS3) Steering Wheel Support Games
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2013, 03:30:44 pm »
To quote myself from the other thread....  :)

We could share a dropbox folder and start working on a spreadsheet if you want.  Just make a few columns and start adding to it.

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Re: Playstation 3 (PS3) Steering Wheel Support Games
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2013, 03:40:18 pm »

Check this out: http://www.steering-wheel-support.com/

I may make a separate thread about this one.  Somebody has put a lot of time into this.

Good find.  I've thought about making a thread or spreadsheet for PC games, but never considered the consoles.
I'm tempted to copy their information here so it doesn't get lost.

What has stopped me is that I wasn't sure how much info to include.
So, if we were to make a ffb wheel compatibility sticky, what all info should be included for each game?

My preference is to keep it simple.  Does the wheel work? Is there full ffb support or just rumble?  The end.

Part of me also wants to get into whether the game requires a mouse or allows for multiple input devices though.
It gets to be more of a PITA at that point.

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Re: Playstation 3 (PS3) Steering Wheel Support Games
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2013, 03:42:00 pm »
I deleted our posts from the other thread to avoid confusion.

To quote myself from the other thread....  :)

We could share a dropbox folder and start working on a spreadsheet if you want.  Just make a few columns and start adding to it.

How about a google spreadsheet?

PC, PS2, PS3 on different sheets?

The one thing I'd like to avoid with the PC games is people chiming in based on what they've read instead of actual testing.
Sometime you'll read that a game has ffb when it only has rumble.  Rumble will work on a G27, but not older wheels.
Very old games used a different protocol for ffb that was specific to the MS Sidewinder wheel or the first Logitech Formula Force.
Although they technically had ffb, they won't work with modern wheels.

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Re: Playstation 3 (PS3) Steering Wheel Support Games
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2013, 04:29:16 pm »
Sure. 

I've got:
PC
PS3 (G27 supported)
PS2 (G27 supported)
Wii  (no wheel support that I'm aware of, maybe via GameCube interface...  although don't have a GameCube wheel)
Wii U (no wheel support that I'm aware of)

And my brother has an original GameCube still - so if that comes up at all.   Although tracking down a lot of the games could be tricky (and expensive). 


We should probably have separate tabs for emulated consoles, like (E)PS2, (E)Wii, etc..  Especially since if you're got the horsepower to emulator the game, wheel support generally get better.

Hmm..  what if you mounted a Wii Mote to a G27 wheel...?  lol    That might actually work....

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« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2013, 04:38:55 pm »
I've got the Logitech GameCube wheel and all the compatible games if you want me to add that info on the eventual document.
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Re: Playstation 3 (PS3) Steering Wheel Support Games
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2013, 04:54:18 pm »
Oh my, this could get big.  :lol

I'll put together a google spreadsheet tonight, then you guys can critique the columns before we start populating it.

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Re: Playstation 3 (PS3) Steering Wheel Support Games
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2013, 07:48:24 pm »
Here is what I have so far:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aq37CSO6oe1fdGNQUGN5UU1QeTl0ZFQ3WkFKYTR1aWc&usp=sharing

I'm expecting a slow day at work tomorrow and will fiddle with making it prettier then.

I'm afraid of getting bogged down in requiring too much info for the PC games, but it would be nice to have a reference for these things.

Comments?

Is it important to add whether or not a game supports 900 degrees of rotation?  (most of them won't)

If a game originally could be played online, but the servers aren't there anymore to connect to, should it still be marked as playable online?

I'm bouncing between stuff at the moment, may work on it some more tonight, may not.

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Re: Playstation 3 (PS3) Steering Wheel Support Games
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2013, 08:09:57 pm »
I would make it super simple, then add a notes column.  Likee four columns.

1) Native Wheel Support - yes/no - (Does the wheel show up in the game options)
2) FFB / Rumble Support - yes/rumble only/no   (this is even subjective and easily confused)
3) Hacked Wheel Support - yes/no  (x360ce, logitech profiler, other crazy method)
4) Notes - free form (probably ties directly into question 3)

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Re: Playstation 3 (PS3) Steering Wheel Support Games
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2013, 09:03:54 pm »
I would make it super simple, then add a notes column.  Likee four columns.

1) Native Wheel Support - yes/no - (Does the wheel show up in the game options)
2) FFB / Rumble Support - yes/rumble only/no   (this is even subjective and easily confused)
3) Hacked Wheel Support - yes/no  (x360ce, logitech profiler, other crazy method)
4) Notes - free form (probably ties directly into question 3)

I'd like to keep the mouse and LAN columns so I know whether it plays nice with cabs or linking.
It might be best to ditch the internet column as support goes away as the game ages.

The primary reason for the OS column is so people will know whether or not the game will run on their XP cab.
I also haven't had much luck getting some of the Windows 95 games running on Win7. 
(currently installing Win7 for the new cabs btw)

1) With some of the older games, it shows up as a plain joystick.  Shall we still call that supported or add a legend with things like J=shows as joystick, X=xbox360 controller support only

2) Add R=rumble only?

3) see 1), then you're on your own

4) yeah, will add notes.  I tend to include too much though.

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Re: Playstation 3 (PS3) Steering Wheel Support Games
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2013, 09:55:24 pm »
I'm still conflicted on FFB vs Rumble support.  Some games its hard to tell the difference. 

Perhaps we need to add a qualifier like does it actually have an FFB on/off switch in the menus somewhere?

I've added a bunch of games I have to the spreadsheet.  I'll keep adding info as I get it.  I'll have to get my G27 hooked up to my PS2 as well.




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Re: Playstation 3 (PS3) Steering Wheel Support Games
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2013, 09:09:27 am »
Copying this here for future reference.

PlayStation®2 Driving Game Compatible with the 900-Degree Steering of the Logitech Driving Force Pro

 * Evolution GT™ by Lago Srl.
 * Flatout™ by Empire Interactive
 * Gran Turismo™ 4 by Sony Computer Entertainment Inc.
 * Midnight Club™ 3: DUB Edition by Rockstar Games
 * Need for Speed Underground® 2 by Electronic Arts
 * Need for Speed Most Wanted® by Electronic Arts
 * Richard Burns Rally™ by SCi Games
 * Street Racing Syndicate™ by Empire Interactive
 * Test Drive® Eve of Destruction by Atari
 * TOCA Race Driver™ 2 by Codemasters

 PlayStation®2 Driving Games Compatible with Logitech's Driving Force and Driving Force Pro steering wheels

 * 18 Wheeler: American Pro Trucker ™ by Acclaim
 * Auto Modellista by Capcom Entertainment
 * Burnout™ by Acclaim
 * Burnout 2: Point of Impact™ by Acclaim
 * Burnout 3 Takedown™ by Electronic Arts
 * Burnout™ Revenge by Electronic Arts
 * Colin McRae™ 3 by CodeMasters Software
 * Colin McRae™ Rally 4 by Codemasters
 * Colin McRae™ 2005 by Codemasters
 * Corvette® by Global Star Software
 * Driven by Bam Entertainment
 * Enthusia Professional Racing by Konami
 * F1™ 2001 by Electronic Arts
 * F1™ 2002 by Electronic Arts
 * F1™ Career Challenge by Electronic Arts
 * Ferrari® F355 Challenge™ by Sega
 * Flatout™ by Empire Interactive
 * Ford Mustang: The Legend Lives by 2KGames
 * Formula One 2001™ by Sony Computer Entertainment Europe
 * Formula One 2002™ by Sony Computer Entertainment Europe
 * Formula One 2003™ by Sony Computer Entertainment Europe
 * Formula One 2004™ by Sony Computer Entertainment Europe
 * Gran Turismo™ Concept: 2001 Tokyo by Sony Computer Entertainment Inc.
 * Gran Turismo™ Concept: 2002 Tokyo-Geneva by Sony Computer Entertainment Inc.
 * Gran Turismo™ 3 A-spec by Sony Computer Entertainment Inc.
 * Gran Turismo™ 4 by Sony Computer Entertainment Inc.
 * Grand Prix Challenge by Atari
 * Hot Wheels ™ Velocity X by THQ
 * Initial D: Special Stage by Sega
 * Juiced™ by THQ
 * Knight Rider™ by Universal Interactive
 * Lotus Challenge™ by Virgin Interactive Entertainment
 * Midnight Club™ II By Rockstar Games
 * Midnight Club™ 3: DUB Edition by Rockstar Games
 * Motor Mayhem ™ by Atari
 * NASCAR 06 Total Team Control™ by Electronic Arts
 * NASCAR® Heat™ 2002 by Atari
 * NASCAR® Heat™ 2: Road To The Championship
 * NASCAR® Thunder™ 2002 by Electronic Arts
 * NASCAR® Thunder™ 2003 by Electronic Arts
 * NASCAR® Thunder™ 2004 by Electronic Arts
 * NASCAR® 2005: Chase for the Cup™ by Electronic Arts
 * NASCAR 06 Total Team Control™ by Electronic Arts
 * Need For Speed™: Hot Pursuit 2 by Electronic Arts
 * Need For Speed™ Underground by Electronic Arts
 * Need for Speed Underground® 2 by Electronic Arts
 * Need for Speed Most Wanted® by Electronic Arts
 * NHRA™ Championship Drag Racing™ by VSE Games
 * Pro Race Driver by CodeMasters
 * R: Racing Evolution by Namco
 * Rally Championship by CodeMasters
 * Rally Fusion: Race of Champions by Activision
 * Richard Burns Rally™ by SCi Games
 * RoadKill by Midway
 * Shox™ Electronic Arts
 * Smuggler´s Run 2: Hostile Territory by Rockstar Games
 * Starsky & Hutch™ by Gotham Games
 * Street Racing Syndicate by Namco
 * The Simpsons™ Hit & Run by Vivendi Universal
 * The Simpsons™ Road Rage by Electronic Arts
 * Total Immersion Racing™ by Empire Interactive
 * Test Drive® by Atari
 * Test Drive® Off-Road: Wide Open™ by Atari
 * Test Drive® Eve of Destruction by Atari
 * TOCA Race Driver™ 2 by Codemasters
 * Twisted Metal Black Online by Sony Computer Entertainment Inc.
 * World of Outlaws: Sprint Cars 2002 by Atari
 * World Rally Championship™ by Sony Computer Entertainment Europe
 * World Rally Championship™ II Extreme by Sony Computer Entertainment Europe
 * World Rally Championship™ IV by Sony Computer Entertainment Europe
 * V-Rally™ 3 by Atari



When I copy and paste the chart from the PS3 site, the strikethroughs don't come through, making it inaccurate.

I have dozens of PC games that I can start making a spreadsheet of as I set them up on the new cabs.
It's just deciding what all information to include.

I'm assuming that all the PS2 games in that supported list have force feedback.
Does someone who has owned a PS2 with a wheel know otherwise about any of them?

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Re: Playstation 3 (PS3) Steering Wheel Support Games
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2013, 09:57:35 am »
This list is slightly different from the one posted above...  http://www.logitech.com/en-us/game-gear/articles/6475

It appears to post "most amount of supported features" --> "least amount of support features". 

The last category being:

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PlayStation 2 driving games supporting the force feedback of the Logitech G27, Driving Force GT, and Driving Force Wireless wheels:

I'll have to get my PS2 hooked up soon.

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Re: Playstation 3 (PS3) Steering Wheel Support Games
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2013, 10:12:38 am »
Sure. 

I've got:
PC
PS3 (G27 supported)
PS2 (G27 supported)
Wii  (no wheel support that I'm aware of, maybe via GameCube interface...  although don't have a GameCube wheel)
Wii U (no wheel support that I'm aware of)

And my brother has an original GameCube still - so if that comes up at all.   Although tracking down a lot of the games could be tricky (and expensive). 


We should probably have separate tabs for emulated consoles, like (E)PS2, (E)Wii, etc..  Especially since if you're got the horsepower to emulator the game, wheel support generally get better.

Hmm..  what if you mounted a Wii Mote to a G27 wheel...?  lol    That might actually work....
Does the ps2 really work with a g27 natively?
 If so I might just buy the console instead of tweaking pscx2

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Re: Playstation 3 (PS3) Steering Wheel Support Games
« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2013, 11:52:44 am »
Does the ps2 really work with a g27 natively?
 If so I might just buy the console instead of tweaking pscx2

Per Logitech's own site, it does.  http://www.logitech.com/en-us/game-gear/articles/6475

I'll let you know soon when I get mine hooked up to my cabinet.

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Re: PS3, PS2, PC, Gamecube, Xbox Steering Wheel Support Games List Project
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2013, 11:54:22 am »
Although not really related to wheel support, I added a Nintendo 64 tab with all the racing games for that console.
There are a lot of arcade ports for that system that either don't work in MAME or require a decent processor in MAME.

It should be complete.  If anything is missing let me know.
I have not tested all of them to ensure that they work with a driving cab setup.  ;)

I'd like to do the same for Dreamcast.  This may eventually evolve into a spreadsheet of all driving games with analog controls.
I have no interest in listing the games for the old consoles that didn't have analog controls.
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Re: PS3, PS2, PC, Gamecube, Xbox Steering Wheel Support Games List Project
« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2013, 12:34:50 pm »
I have no interest in listing the games for the old consoles that didn't have analog controls.

So that basically excludes everything from the forth generation of consoles and prior. 

Nintendo 64 / Sega Saturn / Sony PlayStation is where the list would begin.

I downloaded a bunch of abandonware PC driving games this morning.  Old stuff.   I'll let you know if its worth including.

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Re: PS3, PS2, PC, Gamecube, Xbox Steering Wheel Support Games List Project
« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2013, 12:39:44 pm »
I have no interest in listing the games for the old consoles that didn't have analog controls.

So that basically excludes everything from the forth generation of consoles and prior. 

Nintendo 64 / Sega Saturn / Sony PlayStation is where the list would begin.

I downloaded a bunch of abandonware PC driving games this morning.  Old stuff.   I'll let you know if its worth including.

The original Playstation will be a pain because the dual analog controller wasn't released until years after the console, so all the games made before that and a fair number made after that don't even support analog controls.

I'm working on Dreamcast now.  Will move onto Saturn after that.

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Re: PS3, PS2, PC, Gamecube, Xbox Steering Wheel Support Games List Project
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2013, 01:01:11 pm »
I forgot all about the evolution of the original PlayStation controller.   Man I'm getting old.   

The PS1 was primarily a RPG console anyway though. 

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Re: PS3, PS2, PC, Gamecube, Xbox Steering Wheel Support Games List Project
« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2013, 09:19:32 pm »
Ugh, can't stop myself from compulsively working on this stuff.
Have xbox mostly done, although I'll never have any use for it.   :dizzy:

Using info off the box covers. 
I get the feeling only the early titles actually point out wheel support, so I may drop that column.


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Re: PS3, PS2, PC, Gamecube, Xbox Steering Wheel Support Games List Project
« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2013, 09:46:47 pm »
Xbox - can't emulate it.  Logitech wheels don't work on them (without a 3rd party adapter).

Drop the Xbox. 

The fact that the OS is based on Windows and doesn't use a native USB driver?   Ya..   screw that system.   :)

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Re: PS3, PS2, PC, Gamecube, Xbox Steering Wheel Support Games List Project
« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2013, 10:16:28 pm »
Xbox - can't emulate it.  Logitech wheels don't work on them (without a 3rd party adapter).

Drop the Xbox. 

The fact that the OS is based on Windows and doesn't use a native USB driver?   Ya..   screw that system.   :)

Too late.  Done except for formatting.  :lol
Shame there wasn't a better wheel for it.
The linking is pretty cool.  Guess I need to add that column to PS2 games too.
It's not too bad to look up since it's on the back of the cover.

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Re: PS3, PS2, PC, Gamecube, Xbox Steering Wheel Support Games List Project
« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2013, 11:42:41 am »
Dropped in a giant list of driving games for PS2.  Not sure why, but it kept the original ones at the bottom when I tried to sort alphabetically.
Ended up having to copy and paste them into the list in the correct spots.  So.....don't sort that page, or it might separate them out again.
I made a backup just in case.

The ones that have the details filled out are from the Logitech website as supporting the Driving Force wheels.
Those still need the number of networked players allowed filled in.

The best source of information seems to be viewing high res scans of the covers.

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« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2013, 02:39:21 pm »
I managed to find a spreadsheet of PS1 games. 
Sorted by genre, delete unrelated genres, pick through simulation & sports
....bingo-bango-jimmy-john-jango....a list of racing games with dates without having to put much work in.  ;D

Of course, it can't be that easy.

Namco NeGcon released at system launch (for Ridge Racer)            
Sony Analog joystick (flightstick style) released April 1996            
Dual Analog Controller released in US Aug27, 1997                                                                                         
Dual Shock Controller released May 1998 - Added vibration.            
Namco Jogcon packaged with RR Type 4 1998 - included full directional force feedback   

What's crazy is that it is not cut and dry whether a game supported analog controls or not.
Some games will only work with one of these controllers, some support two or three of them.  :dizzy:

So the dates really don't help. 
I was hoping to just eliminate the ones that came out before the Dual Analog controller, but that would indeed wipe out some that had analog controls.         

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« Reply #25 on: September 18, 2013, 05:26:35 pm »
What's crazy is that it is not cut and dry whether a game supported analog controls or not.
Some games will only work with one of these controllers, some support two or three of them.  :dizzy:

So the dates really don't help. 
I was hoping to just eliminate the ones that came out before the Dual Analog controller, but that would indeed wipe out some that had analog controls.

I'm sure it'll get even more interesting when you throw emulation into the mix.   :cry:

And to add to that, playing PS1 games on a PS2 might yield even more mixed results, as the PS2 only came with the dualshock controller.

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« Reply #26 on: September 19, 2013, 10:49:47 pm »
Violating my own rule about not entering games until fully tested.   >:D

I'm entering all the games I have physical copies of based on info in the user manual.
I should be installing all these next week if the new Win7 installation co-operates and will fill in any blanks then.

Things seemed to be going pretty good with the initial install aside from the networking port on my mobo being dead.
I played the MAME games that would just barely run full speed on XP64 and they perform exactly the same with Win7.
Installed a network card this evening, activated Windows and now the PC freezes up constantly. 
I'm leaving it alone hoping it's win7 updating.  (The install disc was SP1)

In other news, the current Steam update crashes the machine that's still running XP64.  ::)

In other, other news, I added a longer list of PC driving games (totaling 1,031) for reference, but don't bother adding any info to it.
We'll keep posting the games we actually have on the smaller sheet, so it's easier to find.

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Re: PS3, PS2, PC, Gamecube, Xbox Steering Wheel Support Games List Project
« Reply #27 on: September 19, 2013, 11:55:00 pm »
You seem to have the worst luck with PCs.

Windows 7 does go on a patch-a-poluza after a fresh install.   I normally just patch it as far as I can - installing everything along the way - right from the get go. 

Is there anything in the event logs that would indicate a problem?  Honestly I'd pull the NIC - as its what changed (with the hardware) now that's its locking up a lot.  Or go to the mfg. home page for the NIC and find the latest driver. 

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« Reply #28 on: September 19, 2013, 11:55:44 pm »
apparently windows downloaded 115 updates at once and is now installing them. 
On 3 of 115.  LOL

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« Reply #29 on: September 20, 2013, 12:00:18 am »
Yup!  And when that batch is done, it'll do some more. 

I go through this every time I build a 2008r2 server at work (same basic code set as Windows 7).  Patch patch patch!  Then patch some more!   And when thats done, patch it again!  /ugh

I should have some time this weeked to try and work on the game list.  I need to get a front end going on my cabinet too - I just hate working on the front end.  I'd rather spend the time actually playing games. 

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« Reply #30 on: October 02, 2013, 11:02:11 am »
I presume game cube/ psx2 all refer to the actual console.

Can we add a section to list out if emulation is possible i.e 99% playable (and works with a wheel)

Is it possible to get edit access to this list, i dont mind helping out test some games etc

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Re: PS3, PS2, PC, Gamecube, Xbox Steering Wheel Support Games List Project
« Reply #31 on: October 02, 2013, 02:23:06 pm »
I presume game cube/ psx2 all refer to the actual console.

Can we add a section to list out if emulation is possible i.e 99% playable (and works with a wheel)

Is it possible to get edit access to this list, i dont mind helping out test some games etc

Yeah, all of it refers to the actual console.  I did the Dreamcast & Xbox info is based on looking at scans of the back covers.

I'm reluctant to mark them as playable in an emulator or not because that info would change over time and will become outdated.
There are also multiple emulators for some of the systems.  What works on one might not work on another.

If the game originally used analog inputs and the emulator supports analog inputs, then the game should be playable as long as the emulator is capable of running it.  I'm pretty sure that all, or near all of the N64, Dreamcast, & Saturn games are fully emulated.

There are already compatibility lists maintained for Dolphin and PCSX2:
https://dolphin-emu.org/compat/
http://pcsx2.net/compatibility-list.html

It's open for further discussion though if people want it added.

As far as access to the spreadsheet, updating it would involve using the real consoles or looking at box scans online to determine if it supported analog controls or networking.  Did you want to do that, or just play test?

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« Reply #32 on: October 02, 2013, 03:03:03 pm »
The new version of Dolphin (4.0) supports the "gamecube wheel" - so it may have just gotten a lot better.

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Re: PS3, PS2, PC, Gamecube, Xbox Steering Wheel Support Games List Project
« Reply #33 on: October 04, 2013, 04:11:51 am »
Hmm
Well I guess ultimately what I want is a full list of games that are fully playable incluing the use of the wheel.
Then to also highlight the games that are actually decent and are worth playing.

I'm presuming some others may also want the same, so it would be good to combine efforts.
Your lists are definitely going to help me get there. I wondered if I could simply have access to yours to highlight columns. and also add new games

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Re: PS3, PS2, PC, Gamecube, Xbox Steering Wheel Support Games List Project
« Reply #34 on: October 04, 2013, 01:23:32 pm »
Hmm
Well I guess ultimately what I want is a full list of games that are fully playable incluing the use of the wheel.
Then to also highlight the games that are actually decent and are worth playing.

I'm presuming some others may also want the same, so it would be good to combine efforts.
Your lists are definitely going to help me get there. I wondered if I could simply have access to yours to highlight columns. and also add new games

Anyone else want to chime in?


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« Reply #35 on: October 06, 2013, 11:34:18 am »
So using Romlister 0.28 and a MAME .150 -listxml dump, I came up with the following list of "driving" games.  I'm not sure how valuable this information is - because I have no idea if they're 360 wheels, 180 wheels, or other random craziness.  And it doesn't count Spy Hunter as a driving game - so not sure whats up with that.

I did exclude "light gun" games, so i know there is a least one driving game that had a light gun as part of the control set.  Can't remember what its called.

I came up with 168 "games" - clones excluded.  I can reproduce this list quickly and with different options, so if you want something else, let me know.

Oh, MAME .150 assumes all these games are playable too.   Some of them are crazy old.


1000 Miglia: Great 1000 Miles Rally (94/07/18),gtmr
280-ZZZAP,280zzzap
"A.B. Cop (World, FD1094 317-0169b)",abcop
Ace Driver: Racing Evolution (Rev. AD2),acedrvrw
Ace Driver: Victory Lap (Rev. ADV2),victlapw
Air Race (prototype),airrace
American Speedway (set 1),amspdwy
APB - All Points Bulletin (rev 7),apb
Aqua Jet (Rev. AJ2 Ver.B),aquajet
Armadillo Racing (Rev. AM1 Ver.A),adillor
Backfire! (set 1),backfire
Bad Lands,badlands
Big Run (11th Rallye version),bigrun
Blomby Car,blmbycar
Buggy Boy/Speed Buggy (cockpit),buggyboy
Buggy Challenge,buggychl
Burnin' Rubber,brubber
"Burnin' Rubber (DECO Cassette, set 1)",cburnrub
"California Speed (Version 2.1a, 4/17/98)",calspeed
Car Jamboree,carjmbre
Championship Sprint (rev 3),csprint
Change Lanes,changela
Chase H.Q. (World),chasehq
Chequered Flag,chqflag
Cisco Heat,cischeat
Clash-Road,clshroad
Continental Circus (World),contcirc
Cool Riders,coolridr
Crazy Rally (set 1),crzrally
Cruis'n USA (rev L4.1),crusnusa
Cruis'n World (rev L2.5),crusnwld
Cyber Cycles (Rev. CB2 Ver.C),cybrcycc
Danny Sullivan's Indy Heat,indyheat
Demolition Derby,demoderb
Dirt Dash (Rev. DT2),dirtdash
Dirt Fox (Japan),dirtfoxj
Drag Race,dragrace
Drift Out (Europe),driftout
Drift Out '94 - The Hard Order (Japan),drifto94
Driver's Edge,drivedge
Driving Force (Pac-Man conversion),drivfrcp
"Enduro Racer (YM2151, FD1089B 317-0013A)",enduror
Excite Bike (PlayChoice-10),pc_ebike
F-1 Dream,f1dream
F1 Exhaust Note,f1en
F-1 Grand Prix,f1gp
F-1 Grand Prix Part II,f1gp2
F-1 Grand Prix Star II,f1gpstr2
F1 Super Lap (World),f1lap
Final Lap (Rev E),finallap
Final Lap 2,finalap2
"Final Lap 3 (World, set 1)",finalap3
Final Lap R (Rev. B),finalapr
Fire Truck / Smokey Joe,firetrk
Four Trax,fourtrax
Gekisou (Japan),gekisou
"GP Rider (World, FD1094 317-0163)",gprider
Grand Champion,grchamp
Grand Prix Star,f1gpstar
Grudge Match (prototype),grudge
GTI Club (ver EAA),gticlub
Handle Champ (GQ710 VER. JAB),hndlchmp
Hang-On (Rev A),hangon
Hang-On Jr.,hangonjr
"Hard Drivin' (cockpit, rev 7)",harddriv
Hard Drivin's Airborne (prototype),hdrivair
High Way Race,hwrace
Hot Chase,hotchase
"Hot Rod (World, 3 Players, Turbo set 1, Floppy Based)",hotrod
Hyper Crash (version D),hcrash
Hyperdrive,hyprdriv
Ironman Ivan Stewart's Super Off-Road,offroad
Ironman Ivan Stewart's Super Off-Road Track-Pak,offroadt
Joyful Road (Japan),joyfulr
Jumping Cross,jcross
Kick Rider,kickridr
Kick Start - Wheelie King,kikstart
Konami GT,konamigt
Laguna Racer,lagunar
Landing Gear (Ver 4.2 O),landgear
Lethal Crash Race (set 1),crshrace
Mad Gear (US),madgear
Masked Riders Club Battle Race,kamenrid
Max RPM (ver 2),maxrpm
Midnight Run (Euro v1.11),midnrun
Mille Miglia 2: Great 1000 Miles Rally (95/05/24),gtmr2
Monte Carlo,montecar
Neo Drift Out - New Technology,neodrift
Night Driver,nitedrvr
Off Road Challenge (v1.63),offroadc
"Out Run (sitdown/upright, Rev B)",outrun
OutRunners (World),orunners
Over Top,overtop
Pit & Run - F-1 Race (set 1),pitnrun
"Pocket Racer (Japan, PKR1/VER.B)",pocketrc
Pole Position (World),polepos
Pole Position II (Japan),polepos2
"Power Drift (World, Rev A)",pdrift
Power Drive,powerdrv
R.C. Pro-Am (PlayChoice-10),pc_rcpam
"Race Drivin' (cockpit, rev 5)",racedriv
Racing Beat (World),racingb
Racing Hero (FD1094 317-0144),rachero
Rad Mobile (World),radm
Rad Racer (PlayChoice-10),pc_radrc
Rad Racer II (PlayChoice-10),pc_radr2
Rad Rally (World),radr
Radikal Bikers (Version 2.02),radikalb
Rally Bike / Dash Yarou,rallybik
"Rave Racer (Rev. RV2, World)",raveracw
Redline Racer (2 players),redlin2p
"Ridge Racer (Rev. RR3, World)",ridgerac
"Ridge Racer 2 (Rev. RRS2, World)",ridgera2
Riding Hero (NGM-006)(NGH-006),ridhero
River Patrol (Orca),rpatrol
"Road Riot 4WD (set 1, 13 Nov 1991)",roadriot
"Rough Racer (Japan, Floppy Based, FD1094 317-0058-06b)",roughrac
San Francisco Rush,sfrush
Shot Rider,shtrider
Side by Side (Ver 2.7 J),sidebs
Side by Side 2 (Ver 2.6 A),sidebs2
Slip Stream (Brazil 950515),slipstrm
Space Position (Japan),spcpostn
Speed Freak,speedfrk
Speed Racer,speedrcr
Speed Up (Version 1.20),speedup
Sprint 1,sprint1
Sprint 4 (set 1),sprint4
Sprint 8,sprint8
Stadium Cross (World),scross
Stocker (3/19/85),stocker
Street Drivin' (prototype),strtdriv
Super Bug,superbug
Super Chase - Criminal Termination (World),superchs
"Super Cross II (Japan, set 1)",sprcros2
"Super Hang-On (sitdown/upright, unprotected)",shangon
"Super Monaco GP (World, Rev B, FD1094 317-0126a)",smgp
Super Speed Race,sspeedr
Super Speed Race Junior (Japan),ssrj
Super Sprint (rev 4),ssprint
Suzuka 8 Hours (World),suzuka8h
Suzuka 8 Hours 2 (World),suzuk8h2
Tail to Nose - Great Championship,tail2nos
The Bounty,bounty
Thrash Rally (ALM-003)(ALH-003),trally
Thrill Drive (JAE),thrilld
Top Speed (World),topspeed
Traverse USA / Zippy Race,travrusa
Tugboat,tugboat
Turbo,turbo
"Turbo Out Run (Out Run upgrade, FD1094 317-0118)",toutrun
Turbo Tag (prototype),turbotag
TX-1 (World),tx1
Virtua Racing,vr
Vs. Excitebike (set EB4-4 A),excitebk
WEC Le Mans 24 (set 1),wecleman
Wheels Runner,wheelrun
"Winding Heat (EAA, Euro v2.11)",windheat
Winning Run,winrun
Winning Run '91 (Japan),winrun91
Winning Run Suzuka Grand Prix (Japan),winrungp
World Rally (set 1),wrally
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Re: PS3, PS2, PC, Gamecube, Xbox Steering Wheel Support Games List Project
« Reply #36 on: October 06, 2013, 12:25:46 pm »
So using Romlister 0.28 and a MAME .150 -listxml dump, I came up with the following list of "driving" games.  I'm not sure how valuable this information is - because I have no idea if they're 360 wheels, 180 wheels, or other random craziness.

From the driving cab info thread: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aq37CSO6oe1fdERrVGt0emFCWnh1WDBiaFdoUmcweHc&usp=sharing#gid=0
 :)

Someday I'll re-organize the driving cab info thread so information is easier to see when just glancing over it.
....someday.

The game with the gun was Lucky & Wild.  It used a positional gun.  I'd keep it, but make a notation about the gun.

EDIT: For good measure, here is a spreadsheet of only good and imperfect games (most imperfect are playable) sorted by 270 or 360 degree wheel.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArE1chsgHXQodDlYVEVYcXpLNWkwN0Z0VC1zRzlsWVE&usp=sharing#gid=0
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Re: PS3, PS2, PC, Gamecube, Xbox Steering Wheel Support Games List Project
« Reply #37 on: October 06, 2013, 12:45:29 pm »
For those who only want to have the necessary roms, it might be useful to compile a list of what other drivers/roms are needed for all these games to run.

I know for Spy Hunter, the sound board roms were offloaded to midssio.zip because multiple games used the same sound board.
So you need midssio.zip in addition to spyhunt.zip  for the game to run.  (at least for versions 0.145u7 or newer)

http://www.progettoemma.net/  is useful for this sometimes.
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Re: PS3, PS2, PC, Gamecube, Xbox Steering Wheel Support Games List Project
« Reply #38 on: October 06, 2013, 01:48:51 pm »
For those who only want to have the necessary roms, it might be useful to compile a list of what other drivers/roms are needed for all these games to run.

I know for Spy Hunter, the sound board roms were offloaded to midssio.zip because multiple games used the same sound board.
So you need midssio.zip in addition to spyhunt.zip  for the game to run.  (at least for versions 0.145u7 or newer)

http://www.progettoemma.net/  is useful for this sometimes.
click on the British flag on the left for mostly English.

This is situational I believe depending on how you building your rom set.  Split, Merged, Non-Merged

Personally, I just use the same rom set between all my cabinets / PCs, and adjust the front end game lists instead.   

FreeFileSync FTW!  Update one set, mass replicate....     and I've considered using symbolic links (symlink, junctions, whatever you want to call it) for the CHDs, since they're massive.