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| paigeoliver:
--- Quote from: emphatic on September 11, 2013, 03:33:07 pm ---Required reading: http://slagcoin.com/joystick/layout.html --- End quote --- Has some misinformation and is extremely biased towards curved layouts. It calls the 3x2 the layout the "American Street Fighter Layout" which it is not, it is THE Street Fighter layout, both America and Japan. There is even a picture of it on the Japanese flyer. The whole curved button layout is superior idea rests on 4 assumptions. #1. Every American company has been doing buttons wrong since the dawn of arcade games. #2. The majority of Japanese companies (including CAPCOM) did buttons wrong until the fighting game craze was actually already OVER. #3. The curved button layouts were designed for playability and not because you couldn't get 4 buttons in a row (Neo Geo) on existing late 80s Japanese cabinet control panel inserts without dropping one down a little bit to free up a couple of millimeters of space. Some of these ERGONOMIC machines actually had left hand on the joystick for player one and right hand for player 2. #4. That a group of people who as a whole are Japanophiles are right when they say something Japanese is better than something American. |
| Malenko:
--- Quote from: paigeoliver on September 11, 2013, 03:58:53 pm ---#4. That a group of people who as a whole are Japanophiles are right when they say something Japanese is better than something American. --- End quote --- Lots of American "bashing" in there. I didnt know I SNAAAKE wasnt any good at fighting games because he's american. |
| paigeoliver:
Also, the other major important detail. You are going to find that most people who prefer the curved layouts have a background in playing fighting games not in the arcade but on the consoles playstation era or later, using an aftermarket fighter stick. Almost all of those had curved layouts because they were manufactured in Japan to match the layouts on the Japanese cabinets. However if that is you then you already know it and you wouldn't even be asking what layout to use. At no point is anything in my posts bashing anyone's fighting game skills. Most people are really going to prefer what they are used to. If your main gaming experience was fighters on your PS2 with an aftermarket controller then you will probably want the whole japanese control experience, dime store joysticks, convex buttons, and curved layout. If you played your fighting games on an actual arcade machine then you are probably going to be happier with the traditional Capcom layout and the more durable american joysticks. |
| severdhed:
this is always such a heated debate. i think the curved layout is superior for the following reasons: 1. It is more comfortable for extended periods of time 2. It is more aesthetically pleasing...i think it just looks nicer 3. it is more forgiving with minor miscalculations in drilling. sure, it is not as arcade authentic as a straight layout, but neither are LCD monitors, RGB buttons, glowing trackballs or many of the things people use on their cabinets. Just because these things weren't used on commercial arcade cabinets doesn't mean that they are inferior. If you are going to make something like an arcade cabinet to have in your home, why not customize it the way you like, instead of limiting yourself just because of tradition? the argument about the curved layout being confusing is a little ridiculous. I have never had anyone walk up to my cabinet and feel confused....even the 3 and 4 year olds that use it have no difficulty at all. maybe if you or your friends are the kind of people who play fighting games competitively, then you may have an issue deviating from the standard, but if that is the case, you wouldn't be here asking this question. Make a cardboard mockup, test out a few layouts and determine what feels best to you, and screw everyone else, because ultimately it is your cabinet. I can see getting complaints if you put the joysticks on the right of the buttons or something crazy like that, but a curved layout is not going to bother anyone. |
| yotsuya:
--- Quote from: severdhed on September 11, 2013, 05:08:37 pm --- I have never had anyone walk up to my cabinet and feel confused....even the 3 and 4 year olds that use it have no difficulty at all. --- End quote --- Amen. Once they know what button is button #1, everything else is easy. |
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