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| BadMouth:
--- Quote from: guitarman74 on August 19, 2013, 01:25:24 pm ---I will take a look at that, thanks... Xarcade told me they use Maximus front-end... if it is illegal to do this, why are all of these guys advertising all of these games on their sites? Is it simply because no one cares enough to do anything about old game licensing? --- End quote --- They're always careful with the wording. It's "capable of playing thousands of games" or " allows you to run THOUSANDS of original arcade games " By the same token, my CD player is capable of playing millions of songs. Big deal. X-arcade says "Pre-Configured Arcade Software (MAME Rom-Ready)" which means they've set things up so that all you have to do is drop the roms in the MAME folder. You'll have to find the roms on the internet yourself. It does include 200+ classic games, but they are PC versions and are probably in a separate PC game list. You probably won't get any roms out of xgaming. With the other guy's it's probably a wink, wink, nod nod, I've preinstalled roms on there as a personal favor and they have nothing to do with the purchase price. ;) I haven't heard of anyone getting busted. My personal opinion is that the copyright owners wouldn't recover enough to justify the legal expense, so they don't bother. I'm not trying to be self righteous, just telling you like it is in case you didn't know. |
| JDFan:
--- Quote from: BadMouth on August 19, 2013, 02:21:28 pm --- --- Quote from: guitarman74 on August 19, 2013, 01:25:24 pm ---I will take a look at that, thanks... Xarcade told me they use Maximus front-end... if it is illegal to do this, why are all of these guys advertising all of these games on their sites? Is it simply because no one cares enough to do anything about old game licensing? --- End quote --- They're always careful with the wording. It's "capable of playing thousands of games" or " allows you to run THOUSANDS of original arcade games " By the same token, my CD player is capable of playing millions of songs. Big deal. X-arcade says "Pre-Configured Arcade Software (MAME Rom-Ready)" which means they've set things up so that all you have to do is drop the roms in the MAME folder. You'll have to find the roms on the internet yourself. It does include 200+ classic games, but they are PC versions and are probably in a separate PC game list. You probably won't get any roms out of xgaming. With the other guy's it's probably a wink, wink, nod nod, I've preinstalled roms on there as a personal favor and they have nothing to do with the purchase price. ;) I haven't heard of anyone getting busted. My personal opinion is that the copyright owners wouldn't recover enough to justify the legal expense, so they don't bother. I'm not trying to be self righteous, just telling you like it is in case you didn't know. --- End quote --- This is correct even NorthCoast Customs does the same if you read their advert it says : --- Quote ---Our gaming systems include over 120 licensed authentic classic arcade games and plays over 7,000 PC based and emulated games. --- End quote --- AND : --- Quote ---Preconfigured for MAME, an emulator (computer program) designed to recreate the hardware of arcade game systems in software, with the intent of preserving gaming history and preventing vintage games from being lost or forgotten. This allows you to run THOUSANDS of original arcade games all from a standard PC...or in this case, your Ultimate Arcade II gaming system. --- End quote --- So they include several PC based compilations that have about 120 games and also mention that it can play the MAME games but do not include any of the roms for them only include it preconfigured to run them if you do add the ROMS. |
| guitarman74:
--- Quote from: BadMouth on August 19, 2013, 02:21:28 pm --- --- Quote from: guitarman74 on August 19, 2013, 01:25:24 pm ---I will take a look at that, thanks... Xarcade told me they use Maximus front-end... if it is illegal to do this, why are all of these guys advertising all of these games on their sites? Is it simply because no one cares enough to do anything about old game licensing? --- End quote --- They're always careful with the wording. It's "capable of playing thousands of games" or " allows you to run THOUSANDS of original arcade games " By the same token, my CD player is capable of playing millions of songs. Big deal. X-arcade says "Pre-Configured Arcade Software (MAME Rom-Ready)" which means they've set things up so that all you have to do is drop the roms in the MAME folder. You'll have to find the roms on the internet yourself. It does include 200+ classic games, but they are PC versions and are probably in a separate PC game list. You probably won't get any roms out of xgaming. With the other guy's it's probably a wink, wink, nod nod, I've preinstalled roms on there as a personal favor and they have nothing to do with the purchase price. ;) I haven't heard of anyone getting busted. My personal opinion is that the copyright owners wouldn't recover enough to justify the legal expense, so they don't bother. I'm not trying to be self righteous, just telling you like it is in case you didn't know. --- End quote --- Ok thanks for that, yes that makes sense. |
| guitarman74:
--- Quote from: JDFan on August 19, 2013, 02:32:10 pm --- --- Quote from: BadMouth on August 19, 2013, 02:21:28 pm --- --- Quote from: guitarman74 on August 19, 2013, 01:25:24 pm ---I will take a look at that, thanks... Xarcade told me they use Maximus front-end... if it is illegal to do this, why are all of these guys advertising all of these games on their sites? Is it simply because no one cares enough to do anything about old game licensing? --- End quote --- They're always careful with the wording. It's "capable of playing thousands of games" or " allows you to run THOUSANDS of original arcade games " By the same token, my CD player is capable of playing millions of songs. Big deal. X-arcade says "Pre-Configured Arcade Software (MAME Rom-Ready)" which means they've set things up so that all you have to do is drop the roms in the MAME folder. You'll have to find the roms on the internet yourself. It does include 200+ classic games, but they are PC versions and are probably in a separate PC game list. You probably won't get any roms out of xgaming. With the other guy's it's probably a wink, wink, nod nod, I've preinstalled roms on there as a personal favor and they have nothing to do with the purchase price. ;) I haven't heard of anyone getting busted. My personal opinion is that the copyright owners wouldn't recover enough to justify the legal expense, so they don't bother. I'm not trying to be self righteous, just telling you like it is in case you didn't know. --- End quote --- --- Quote ---Our gaming systems include over 120 licensed authentic classic arcade games and plays over 7,000 PC based and emulated games. --- End quote --- AND : --- Quote ---Preconfigured for MAME, an emulator (computer program) designed to recreate the hardware of arcade game systems in software, with the intent of preserving gaming history and preventing vintage games from being lost or forgotten. This allows you to run THOUSANDS of original arcade games all from a standard PC...or in this case, your Ultimate Arcade II gaming system. --- End quote --- So they include several PC based compilations that have about 120 games and also mention that it can play the MAME games but do not include any of the roms for them only include it preconfigured to run them if you do add the ROMS. --- End quote --- yeah I see that now... though the machine they sent me had 3000+ roms already in there...yet most of them don't work with the controller! |
| Haze:
--- Quote from: BadMouth on August 19, 2013, 02:21:28 pm --- X-arcade says "Pre-Configured Arcade Software (MAME Rom-Ready)" which means they've set things up so that all you have to do is drop the roms in the MAME folder. You'll have to find the roms on the internet yourself. It does include 200+ classic games, but they are PC versions and are probably in a separate PC game list. --- End quote --- They're up to that trick again? Sounds just as shady as the guys the original poster bought from. I'd avoid them too. Here's a hint, any company selling stuff with the emulators / roms included is a scummy outfit and regardless of what they charge you're going to get something awful. In this case they've overcharged you for an underspecced recycled computer and a bunch of software (including MAME and frontends) that have strict NO COMMERCIAL licenses and shouldn't be sold under any circumstance. (not to even start talking about all the ROMs) I'd be surprised if the OS was even licensed (even if it has a license sticker from the original college PC those aren't transferable) They don't care about quality, they don't care about doing things by the book, all they care about making a wad of cash off you and taking whatever shortcuts they can in order to do it. The OP got scammed, many others get scammed. I know it's a case of 'didn't know any better' but unfortunately this is exactly the type of person companies like the one mentioned prey on. My advice, see if you can just sue them for misleading you into buying an illegal product. If they were advertising it as if it was a completely above board quality solution where you could purchase thousands of arcade + console games legally then that's flat out false advertising. Beyond that it doesn't even sound like it was fit for purpose when they sold it you. These guys are basically committing daylight robbery, charging 3 grand for something worth maybe 5% of that at most (assuming the actual cabinet isn't a pile of recycled junk too) |
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