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macattack:
Looking good. So on your pin design, have you exceeded the widebody width so you need a custom lockbar? Or are you stating it will take a 46" if you slot the inside?
Also on the backbox, how much taller have you made it to accommodate a 32 and 24 given a 29 and 15.6 is pushing it within the confines of a std Williams backbox.
Certainly great news for those in Canada given the import cost of the last few I shipped.
Mamezilla:
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--- Quote from: Mamezilla on September 06, 2013, 10:21:09 pm ---Great news ! Looking forward to this ! :applaud:
(and my offer still stands...) ;D
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Thank you, thank you! And I will most certainly take you up on your generous offer. Let me know which of the designs you would like, and you shall be the proud owner of "0001" of said model!
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Oh boy... That's a tough one since each one is a beauty by itself. You sure did "make it right", to quote a famous contractor from your area whose tv shows I love... I like the little details like the speaker hole on the front of the control panel on the Contender.
My favorite one is the Titan. Since I'm more a "classics" player, I would only put one joystick (I have a Mag-Stik sleeping somewhere in my basement), 2 buttons and if possible a 2 1/4" trackball (for Centipede and such), if possible.
Keep up the great work Rick !
Rick:
--- Quote from: macattack on September 07, 2013, 07:29:01 am ---Looking good. So on your pin design, have you exceeded the widebody width so you need a custom lockbar? Or are you stating it will take a 46" if you slot the inside?
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I just rechecked my numbers, and I'm glad that I did. (Thank you!) A Williams' Widebody is reported to be 630mm across the front, which is 24.8". When I rechecked my model, it is only 24.5"... That .3" makes a 5/16" difference in the negative - so it needs to be changed. (Again, thank you. I'm going to run the numbers on everything again.)
And yes, you're right. The standard widebody 'can' accommodate a 46" monitor, but dependent upon the model, the monitor will likely need to be decased, and there may need some minor modification to the playfield box (internal routing or cutting down the top). I've seen this done on a number of builds, and when successful, it honestly gives the best results, as there's little-to-no 'edging' to speak of.
--- Quote from: macattack on September 07, 2013, 07:29:01 am ---Also on the backbox, how much taller have you made it to accommodate a 32 and 24 given a 29 and 15.6 is pushing it within the confines of a std Williams backbox.
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Hmm. You might be right about the 32", but I think the issue will be with the width, as opposed to the height. From what I could find, the standard Williams backbox is around 28 1/2" wide (which is the size used in my design) and most of the 32" monitors seem to be pushing that in size - without having a specific model decased to make sure of - so I'll be changing my original estimate right now.
As for the monitor 'DMD', some clarification is in order. I have created a 'hole' in the bottom of both the backbox, as well as the top of the playfield rear. As such, a monitor can be mounted horizontally or vertically, as required. (If you had a 19" or 24" monitor available, and wanted to mount it vertically, you could.) So yes, I think my original comments were a bit confusing.
--- Quote from: macattack on September 07, 2013, 07:29:01 am ---Certainly great news for those in Canada given the import cost of the last few I shipped.
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I can imagine! I know there's nothing worse than meeting our UPS guy at the door, only to find out I need to pay out a little bit more just to get the items I've ordered.
Rick:
--- Quote from: Mamezilla on September 07, 2013, 11:02:58 am ---Oh boy... That's a tough one since each one is a beauty by itself. You sure did "make it right", to quote a famous contractor from your area whose tv shows I love...
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That's certainly high praise! Thanks so much!
--- Quote from: Mamezilla on September 07, 2013, 11:02:58 am ---I like the little details like the speaker hole on the front of the control panel on the Contender.
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That one is causing me a bit of a headache. There is a good possibility I might make some quick modifications to the design a bit. Right now, the speaker hole looks good but it's functionality is hampered slightly by the fact that there is a 5/16" piece mounted directly behind it... If I make changes, I would have to increase the height of the front panel, and I don't know if that is going to make it look odd, or not...
A-HA! (Sorry - thinking out loud here.) I think I just figured it out. I can route out a channel in the piece immediately behind it, to help to accommodate the speaker hole. It will definitely help the whole aesthetic, I'm sure. (Although, I might be overthinking it all - since if you look inside a speaker hole, you really shouldn't see beyond ... the speaker itself! LOL.)
--- Quote from: Mamezilla on September 07, 2013, 11:02:58 am ---My favorite one is the Titan. Since I'm more a "classics" player, I would only put one joystick (I have a Mag-Stik sleeping somewhere in my basement), 2 buttons and if possible a 2 1/4" trackball (for Centipede and such), if possible.
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I can certainly accommodate whatever you'd like. What were you thinking for the orientation of the joystick/buttons and the trackball? There are a couple of things to consider - such as, having the trackball on the left, joystick almost centered, and the two buttons to the right... Or the joystick on the left, trackball in the center, and two buttons on the right.
(If it was me, I would probably shy away from the trackball, personally. I do have plans for a trackball based bartop, but it will likely be 'trackball only' with a couple of buttons on either side, with no joystick to be found.)
Let me know what you think, and I'll put together a number of different designs for you.
--- Quote from: Mamezilla on September 07, 2013, 11:02:58 am ---Keep up the great work Rick !
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Thank you, thank you!
macattack:
Rick you are correct, a 32 is a good bit wider than a std backbox. As for slotting the bottom to allow the monitor to drop through, you can and we did back in the early days. However you cannot then of course tilt the head down for transport like a real pin. Plus anything larger widescreen wise over 16" is wasted real estate and cost. 16" is spot on for the std width of a DMd.
Height wise I can tell you from plenty of experience a 29" led and and Hanns g 16" screen takes up all the vertical space you have.
Granted a customer can have or want a setup anyway they desire, but good to keep on mind if they want to try and buy them use factory decals.
Just offering some advice since I was where you are 3 years ago when I first started offering cnc pincabs.
Feel free to ping me with any questions you may have or if you'd be interested in supplying my p2k designed cabs in Canada.
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